Maruti Swift diesel @ Rs 4.68 lakh

CrAzY dRiVeR · 28th January 2007, 22:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by ravibhat

Hey you are right Amit I noticed that ticker type ad in few channels, MUL is company which is very good in marketing, Swift D may be fuel efficient
but no official figures on how much it returns..

But blindly they put ad saying most fuel efficient car Swift D and government don't take action against such meaningless ads.

I wouldn't take that ad that lightly...

The diesel cars that have laid claims to maximum mileage are the Fiesta and the Verna... Fiesta has a 1.4L engine, producing 67 and pulling 1150 ... Verna on the other hand has a bigger 1.5L engine with VGT producing 110 bhp...

Swift has a 1.3L engine, producing 75 bhp, pulling 1075 kgs... The smallest engine of the lot, and the lightest car of the lot... And the engine has already won praises for its fuel efficiency...

I dont see any reason why it cannot be the most fuel efficient car... What if it is???

Alto is called the Most fuel efficient petrol car... I dont think they quote any magazines to support that also... It is an accepted fact....

I sure hope, Maruti's claims are right...

aZa · 29th January 2007, 01:13

From what i read bout the FIAT 1.3 Multijet in GRANDE PUNTO, if this is the same engine then there is a ECU remap available boosting the power from 75bhp to 100BHP. Now that sorta power would definatly make Swift HOT HATCH.

Click here for more on the 1.3 multijet ECU REMAP

Cheers

theMAG · 29th January 2007, 01:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by aZa

From what i read bout the FIAT 1.3 Multijet in GRANDE PUNTO, if this is the same engine then there is a ECU remap available boosting the power from 75bhp to 100BHP. Now that sorta power would definatly make Swift HOT HATCH.

Click here for more on the 1.3 multijet ECU REMAP

Cheers

Its not just due to an ECU remap - its VGT. The same 1.3 Multijet is available in normal (75 bhp) and VGT (88 bhp) forms

CrAzY dRiVeR · 29th January 2007, 08:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by theMAG

Its not just due to an ECU remap - its VGT. The same 1.3 Multijet is available in normal (75 bhp) and VGT (88 bhp) forms

I hope a Pete's tuning kit will be available for the Swift DDiS soon...

cartech · 29th January 2007, 11:09

I read somewhere that in near future (2008-09?)Petrol and Diesel prices will be made almost same. Something to do with WTO. In such eventuality how does Petrol vs Diesel calculation work out? Does some one know more information on this?

Floyd de Souza · 29th January 2007, 11:50

On yesterdays Car & Bike show on NDTV Profit, Sid did a TD of the Swift diesel and they claimed they got a combined(city+highway) mileage of 22 kmpl with AC on all the time. If that is the case then one can expect at least 17 kmpl in the city and around 26 kmpl highway which is phenomenal and could well justify the premium.

w 12 · 29th January 2007, 13:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floyd de Souza

On yesterdays Car & Bike show on NDTV Profit, Sid did a TD of the Swift diesel and they claimed they got a combined(city+highway) mileage of 22 kmpl with AC on all the time. If that is the case then one can expect at least 17 kmpl in the city and around 26 kmpl highway which is phenomenal and could well justify the premium.

Looks like it will break the 38 KMPl record set by Verna recently

Bring it on guys.. The more the merrier...

venkatesh_t3 · 29th January 2007, 17:50

how about the maintenance of the car, is the technology going to reduce maintenance cost also, or just the noise and vibration alone.

how was the maintenance cost of the accent crdi compared to the petrol

vishnugs · 29th January 2007, 18:35

Guys,

I've booked DDiS today with Sagar Automobiles, Bangalore. Mine was the 8th DDiS booked with this dealer (with full payment).

The OTR price was 5.33 for LDi but the dealer told me that it was due for a hike in Feb 3rd (owning to increase in steel prices) so I will have to pay ~10k extra (as the vehicle is billed only at the time of delivery).

The dealer failed to commit on any timeline about the delivery, he said Maruti is going to inform the inventory status to the dealers only in the first week of Feb. But he said it could approximately take 1-1.5 months.

Hoping to drive my DDiS soon !

Vishnu

shch · 29th January 2007, 19:06

I am planning to buy my "first" car. As of now, I plan to buy a diesel car. I am confused if I should buy the 2007 Indica Turbo or the Swift Diesel. The Swift-D surely has a great engine.... of course it is more expensive. I still have not got a convincing answer to buy the Indica Turbo. I am really worried about its long term relaibility since I am not the kind who would change cars frequently. Guys, can some expert help me with this dilemma? Is Swift worth the extra buck? Can I have some reasons for and against the Indica Turbo which would help me decide? The customer service issues need not be detailed here ;-)

smokie · 29th January 2007, 21:51

@Tech : Thanks man. You truly are a patient man. A great contributor to the forum.

Let me analyze your figures a bit

Petrol Cost Per Month : Cost of Car + Cost of Fuel
: CC + Rs. 7140

Diesel Cost Per Month : Cost of Car + Premium + Cost of Fuel
: CC + Rs. 2543 + Rs. 3360
: CC + Rs. 5903

So in month, from Day 1 you are saving Rs 1237. If you are driving 1680 km in a month.

Premium = Rs. 152600/60 months = Rs. 2543
Premium 2 = Rs. 152600/36 month = Rs. 4238

Taking into account Tech's EMI calculations, which are spot on.

Here is my version. I have taken the mileage to be 20, please excuse.

5 years
=====================
Petrol Diesel
Km in a Month 960 960
Cost of Fuel 51 32
Mileage 12 20
Cost/ Km 4.25 1.6
Cost Per month 4080 1536
Premuim 0 2543
Total Cost 4080 4079
=========================

3 years
=========================
Petrol Diesel
Km in a Month 1600 1600
Cost of Fuel 51 32
Mileage 12 20
Cost/ Km 4.25 1.6
Cost Per month 6800 2560
Premuim 0 4238
Total Cost 6800 6798
=========================

Bottom line
5 years : Monthly running < 960 km = Petrol
Monthly running > 960 km = Diesel

3 years : Monthly running < 1600 km = Petrol
Monthly running > 1600 km = Diesel

solly · 29th January 2007, 22:27

Tech

Excellent analysis.. one thing u have missed out is that at the end of 5 years the Swift Disel will have atleast 50k more resale value than the petrol version.

nevertouchme · 30th January 2007, 02:31

I did recieve an email from a Dealer in Coimbatore (being my home town)... He had no clue about Feb price hike....
Pasted the quote below :
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Dear Sir,
We thank you very much for your enquiry.
Plese find below the SWIFT DIESEL prices for your reference.

SWIFT-LD I
Vehicle Cost: 471898
Life Tax, Regn., EW & Handling charges: 33267
Insurance: 14165
On road cost: 519330

SWIFT-VD I
Vehicle Cost: 500869
Life Tax, Regn., EW & Handling charges: 35009
Insurance: 14954
On road cost : 550832

Thanks & Regards
S.G.Mohan
Exe-Sales

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Cheers,
Jai

naveen.kk · 30th January 2007, 11:48

Is there any one who Test drove new Swift Diesel.

how is the drive?

how is the rattling sound of the engine?

To correct the one who talked about its weight around 1000-1100 KGS

Its wrong, diesel Swift weighs 1300+ KGS.

sakthivelm · 30th January 2007, 18:10

Suzuki UK site shows that suzuki swift 1.3 DDiS takes 5.7L per 100k m in urban driving and it takes 4L per 100 km on highway. I think that these numbers would be close to our indian version too. What do you guys think?. check Welcome to Suzuki .

29th January 2007, 01:13	#137
aZa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noida / Delhi Posts: 1,595 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	From what i read bout the FIAT 1.3 Multijet in GRANDE PUNTO, if this is the same engine then there is a ECU remap available boosting the power from 75bhp to 100BHP. Now that sorta power would definatly make Swift HOT HATCH. Click here for more on the 1.3 multijet ECU REMAP Cheers
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29th January 2007, 11:09	#140
cartech BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 198 Thanked: Once	I read somewhere that in near future (2008-09?)Petrol and Diesel prices will be made almost same. Something to do with WTO. In such eventuality how does Petrol vs Diesel calculation work out? Does some one know more information on this?
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29th January 2007, 11:50	#141
Floyd de Souza BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 320 Thanked: 225 Times	On yesterdays Car & Bike show on NDTV Profit, Sid did a TD of the Swift diesel and they claimed they got a combined(city+highway) mileage of 22 kmpl with AC on all the time. If that is the case then one can expect at least 17 kmpl in the city and around 26 kmpl highway which is phenomenal and could well justify the premium.
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29th January 2007, 17:50	#143
venkatesh_t3 BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: chennai Posts: 50 Thanked: 0 Times	how about the maintenance of the car, is the technology going to reduce maintenance cost also, or just the noise and vibration alone. how was the maintenance cost of the accent crdi compared to the petrol
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29th January 2007, 18:35	#144
vishnugs BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 173 Thanked: 59 Times	Booked my Swift DDiS Guys, I've booked DDiS today with Sagar Automobiles, Bangalore. Mine was the 8th DDiS booked with this dealer (with full payment). The OTR price was 5.33 for LDi but the dealer told me that it was due for a hike in Feb 3rd (owning to increase in steel prices) so I will have to pay ~10k extra (as the vehicle is billed only at the time of delivery). The dealer failed to commit on any timeline about the delivery, he said Maruti is going to inform the inventory status to the dealers only in the first week of Feb. But he said it could approximately take 1-1.5 months. Hoping to drive my DDiS soon ! Vishnu
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29th January 2007, 19:06	#145
shch Newbie Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 18 Thanked: 6 Times	I am planning to buy my "first" car. As of now, I plan to buy a diesel car. I am confused if I should buy the 2007 Indica Turbo or the Swift Diesel. The Swift-D surely has a great engine.... of course it is more expensive. I still have not got a convincing answer to buy the Indica Turbo. I am really worried about its long term relaibility since I am not the kind who would change cars frequently. Guys, can some expert help me with this dilemma? Is Swift worth the extra buck? Can I have some reasons for and against the Indica Turbo which would help me decide? The customer service issues need not be detailed here ;-)
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29th January 2007, 21:51	#146
smokie BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 83 Thanked: 17 Times	@Tech : Thanks man. You truly are a patient man. A great contributor to the forum. Let me analyze your figures a bit Petrol Cost Per Month : Cost of Car + Cost of Fuel : CC + Rs. 7140 Diesel Cost Per Month : Cost of Car + Premium + Cost of Fuel : CC + Rs. 2543 + Rs. 3360 : CC + Rs. 5903 So in month, from Day 1 you are saving Rs 1237. If you are driving 1680 km in a month. Premium = Rs. 152600/60 months = Rs. 2543 Premium 2 = Rs. 152600/36 month = Rs. 4238 Taking into account Tech's EMI calculations, which are spot on. Here is my version. I have taken the mileage to be 20, please excuse. 5 years ===================== Petrol Diesel Km in a Month 960 960 Cost of Fuel 51 32 Mileage 12 20 Cost/ Km 4.25 1.6 Cost Per month 4080 1536 Premuim 0 2543 Total Cost 4080 4079 ========================= 3 years ========================= Petrol Diesel Km in a Month 1600 1600 Cost of Fuel 51 32 Mileage 12 20 Cost/ Km 4.25 1.6 Cost Per month 6800 2560 Premuim 0 4238 Total Cost 6800 6798 ========================= Bottom line 5 years : Monthly running < 960 km = Petrol Monthly running > 960 km = Diesel 3 years : Monthly running < 1600 km = Petrol Monthly running > 1600 km = Diesel
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29th January 2007, 22:27	#147
solly BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 150 Thanked: Once	Tech Excellent analysis.. one thing u have missed out is that at the end of 5 years the Swift Disel will have atleast 50k more resale value than the petrol version.
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30th January 2007, 02:31	#148
nevertouchme BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 302 Thanked: 62 Times	I did recieve an email from a Dealer in Coimbatore (being my home town)... He had no clue about Feb price hike.... Pasted the quote below : ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dear Sir, We thank you very much for your enquiry. Plese find below the SWIFT DIESEL prices for your reference. SWIFT-LD I Vehicle Cost: 471898 Life Tax, Regn., EW & Handling charges: 33267 Insurance: 14165 On road cost: 519330 SWIFT-VD I Vehicle Cost: 500869 Life Tax, Regn., EW & Handling charges: 35009 Insurance: 14954 On road cost : 550832 Thanks & Regards S.G.Mohan Exe-Sales --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cheers, Jai Last edited by nevertouchme : 30th January 2007 at 02:36.
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30th January 2007, 11:48	#149
naveen.kk BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 120 Thanked: 30 Times View My Garage	Is there any one who Test drove new Swift Diesel. how is the drive? how is the rattling sound of the engine? To correct the one who talked about its weight around 1000-1100 KGS Its wrong, diesel Swift weighs 1300+ KGS.
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30th January 2007, 18:10	#150
sakthivelm Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Tirupur Posts: 15 Thanked: 3 Times	Suzuki UK site shows that suzuki swift 1.3 DDiS takes 5.7L per 100k m in urban driving and it takes 4L per 100 km on highway. I think that these numbers would be close to our indian version too. What do you guys think?. check Welcome to Suzuki .
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