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Chetan_Rao 5th May 2019 13:31

re: Hyundai Venue : Official Preview. EDIT: Launched @ 6.5 lakhs
 
So one can have a turbo-petrol motor, a dual-clutch transmission and powered sunroof in the mid-variant, but a basic rear wash/wipe is limited to the top variant?

Does Hyundai use unobtanium for that part?:Frustrati

SilentEngine 5th May 2019 14:05

re: Hyundai Venue : Official Preview. EDIT: Launched @ 6.5 lakhs
 
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Originally Posted by SoumenD (Post 4584492)
agree: That's the case with all their cars isn't it? Creta AT(17.5L+ OTR bangalore) has sunroof in SX but only 2 airbags. Heck, i20 sells more Sportz variant than anything else which doesnt even come with automatic climate control or rear-wiper/washer. So clearly market doesn't care about these, rather prefer DRLs, sunglass-holder etc & hence its available mid variant onwards. Am sure missing those features won't affect sales at all and it will do as good/bad irrespective of these features.

Wonder how the AT pricing would be considering i20 CVT is priced around 8.2-9.1L ex-showroom(Bangalore). This being a crossover(additional 50-70k straight) along with the more expensive 1.0 turbo & DCT tech would surely be atleast 2-2.5L above the i20 which makes it in the ball-park of 10-12L ex-showroom. Although being a hyundai with all blingy features like sunroof and all, they can probably pull it off:cool:

Larger market probably doesn't care, but what's stopping manufacturers from providing all features as optional irrespective of engine/transmission options? May be a some kind of regulation is required here.

Ecosport AT Titanium+ is 11.36L ex-showroom in Bangalore. We can expect Hyundai to price DCT SX+ at least 50k above that.

As someone in market for a petrol AT car with safety features, it's frustrating to see lack of options. I have been holding off on the purchase for few months now. :deadhorse

The Rationalist 5th May 2019 18:44

re: Hyundai Venue : Official Preview. EDIT: Launched @ 6.5 lakhs
 
What's wrong with the Hyundai people, I can't understand why these stupids don't offer a top end Venue with 6 airbags. I'm on the lookout for an Automatic with 6 airbags and only the Ecosport and Yaris is available! While Ecosport is a good one, it's on its last legs and Yaris is too boring a car.

Hope Kia comes equipped with a top end automatic, unlike their Korean sibling. The morons who decides not to equip Venue with a top end automatic should be given an earful. If I were given a choice I would offer automatic in every variant.

jailbird_fynix 5th May 2019 18:51

re: Hyundai Venue : Official Preview. EDIT: Launched @ 6.5 lakhs
 
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Originally Posted by The Rationalist (Post 4584571)
If I were given a choice I would offer automatic in every variant.

That certainly won't be a rational decision for Hyundai, would it ? lol: (Sorry, couldn't resist). This is exactly why they needed to have the 1.2 petrol as a variant.

Btw, I'm also of the same opinion that they need a top end Automatic with all the quirks & features.

Bee 5th May 2019 19:24

re: Hyundai Venue : Official Preview. EDIT: Launched @ 6.5 lakhs
 
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Originally Posted by CarguyNish (Post 4584442)
  • Day/night auto internal mirror

If this is the same as auto-ivrm then what was that stalk thingy sticking from behind the mirror for manual adjustment?

BaCkSeAtDrIVeR 5th May 2019 20:52

I'm a bit puzzled why no one asked about BS VI compliance. I gather from diesels the posts here that non BS VI diesels can't be upgraded, unlike "BS VI ready" petrols. What is the point in launching a diesel engine with less than a year of marketability?

Going by size / dimensions, this is pitted against the Jazz rather than any other vehicle.

Gannu_1 5th May 2019 21:02

re: Hyundai Venue : Official Preview. EDIT: Launched @ 6.5 lakhs
 
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Originally Posted by Bee (Post 4584585)
If this is the same as auto-ivrm then what was that stalk thingy sticking from behind the mirror for manual adjustment?

No, I think the Autocar author meant the automatic dimming mirror which is present on most top-end variants of premium hatches and sedans.

But looks like author went for the buttons present on the mirror. Moderator Vidyut clearly states that the buttons are not meant for auto dimming. It is for some emergency calling etc.

Bee 5th May 2019 21:15

re: Hyundai Venue : Official Preview. EDIT: Launched @ 6.5 lakhs
 
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Originally Posted by Gannu_1 (Post 4584606)

But looks like author went for the buttons present on the mirror. Moderator Vidyut clearly states that the buttons are not meant for auto dimming. It is for some emergency calling etc.

Exactly, the whole thing seems a bit hastily done to me. Let's wait for the official launch. Hoping the pricing is on point.

Carma2017 5th May 2019 22:12

re: Hyundai Venue : Official Preview. EDIT: Launched @ 6.5 lakhs
 
I am a Hyundai fanboy but this car is just not giving me the winning feeling. It's too much of a Creta lookalike. It will sell initially but I don't see a bright future a year or so later. Hyundai has lost its Mojo with the outrightly uninteresting Santro and now the mini Creta. I pray that I be proved wrong. Loved the interiors though. Made me long for my i10 grand. Hardly ever see any Korean cars here in Japan.

octane_100 5th May 2019 22:41

re: Hyundai Venue : Official Preview. EDIT: Launched @ 6.5 lakhs
 
So one more vehicle which I will be giving a miss. Safety for me has become non-negotiable. Now the wait for SP2 begins.

SoumenD 5th May 2019 22:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rationalist (Post 4584571)
What's wrong with the Hyundai people, I can't understand why these stupids don't offer a top end Venue with 6 airbags. I'm on the lookout for an Automatic with 6 airbags and only the Ecosport and Yaris is available! While Ecosport is a good one, it's on its last legs and Yaris is too boring a car.

Hope Kia comes equipped with a top end automatic, unlike their Korean sibling. The morons who decides not to equip Venue with a top end automatic should be given an earful. If I were given a choice I would offer automatic in every variant.

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Originally Posted by octane_100 (Post 4584658)
So one more vehicle which I will be giving a miss. Safety for me has become non-negotiable. Now the wait for SP2 begins.

Hold on guys. There seems to be something missing here. If you notice in this video the DCT has side airbags (visible on the seats). Am not sure how accurate that variant list is but as per this video Automatic seems to be available in top-end

https://youtu.be/Xz9jXbMPNgw

Here's the snapshot from 5:20. Notice the side airbag tag on the front left seat?
Attachment 1873986

SilentEngine 6th May 2019 01:03

re: Hyundai Venue : Official Preview. EDIT: Launched @ 6.5 lakhs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Rationalist (Post 4584571)
I'm on the lookout for an Automatic with 6 airbags and only the Ecosport and Yaris is available! While Ecosport is a good one, it's on its last legs and Yaris is too boring a car.

i20 CVT also now comes with 6 airbags in Asta(O), although a segment down compared to Ecosport/Yaris and underpowered than either.

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Originally Posted by SoumenD (Post 4584662)
Hold on guys. There seems to be something missing here. If you notice in this video the DCT has side airbags (visible on the seats). Am not sure how accurate that variant list is but as per this video Automatic seems to be available in top-end

Here's the snapshot from 5:20. Notice the side airbag tag on the front left seat?
Attachment 1873986

You are right, but see this post
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/india...ml#post4583310

cp171185 6th May 2019 12:49

re: Hyundai Venue : Official Preview. EDIT: Launched @ 6.5 lakhs
 
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My impression of Venue!

👍 :

1. A turbo unit from Hyundai, finally!
2. Spring loaded grab handle
3. Working roof rails.
4. Nice interior, as always!
5. A Cabin light at the center position.

👎:

1. Only 2 points seat belt for the 3rd passenger at the back.
2. No passenger request sensor
3. Rear bumper is not at all protruding, a small hit may damage the tailgate!
4. No all wheel disc brakes
5. Seems no full cladding for the rear wheel
6. Also looks like seat belt height adjustment is missing.


Picture references:-

1. A Cabin light at the center position:
2. Spring loaded grab handle:
3. Only 2 points seat belt for the 3rd passenger at the rear:

Attachment 1874194

4. Not so potruding bumper:

Attachment 1874195

5. Seems seat belt is missing height adjustment facility?

Attachment 1874196

6. No cladding for the rear wheel?

Attachment 1874197

7. No request sensor for passenger entry:-

Attachment 1874198

8. Dead pedal?

Attachment 1874199


Excuse me for all the low quality photos. All photos are screenshot of the YouTube Videos I have seen on the day when it was launched. So all credit goes to those respective channels.

saikarthik 6th May 2019 15:20

re: Hyundai Venue : Official Preview. EDIT: Launched @ 6.5 lakhs
 
Will be interesting to see if Venue will cannibalize Creta's base variant volumes from coming month.

Venue has the following things better than the Creta,
1. More powerful power-train options,
2. Feature rich Infotainment system with telematics,
3. Fresher design and looks,
4. Compact - easier to squeeze into tight parking spots,
5. Lighting system, a. Boxy tail lamps - but looks better when lit, b. Projector fog lamps,

Where Creta trumps Venue,
1. Proportions - Venue looks too shrunk from side,
2. Proven vehicle with good amount of space,
3. Venue might be overpriced for its segment.

saikarthik 6th May 2019 16:28

re: Hyundai Venue : Official Preview. EDIT: Launched @ 6.5 lakhs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentEngine (Post 4584506)
Larger market probably doesn't care, but what's stopping manufacturers from providing all features as optional irrespective of engine/transmission options?

Mostly in my opinion it's done for marketing/design complexity reasons on mass production cars,

1. To differentiate variants - for example, though some variants have common hardware (which contributes to cost), just to show differentiation to customer they deactivate the features in software. If option is given to customer to pick a feature -
a.It becomes a nightmare for design & manufacturing guys to control that in mass market car,
b. Complexity at dealer increases during both sales & service,

2. In real world, OEM may not be able to give definitive price or choice to customer during launch and actually might end up losing a average customer.

That is why now, few OEMs give optional packs (bundled features) like they do for accessories.


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