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BS-VI emission regulations will come in to effect from April 1, 2020. According to a recent media report, Mahindra is working on a new 2.0-litre diesel engine that will meet the stricter emission norms and is likely to be rolled out around the same time.

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The new 2.0-litre, BS-VI compliant diesel engine is expected to be offered on a wide range of models, including some of the upcoming products like the U321 MPV and the S201 compact SUV. The engine is likely to be offered on the Scorpio and XUV500 as well.

Pawan Goenka, Managing Director, Mahindra & Mahindra told the media that some low volumes products will be discontinued as new safety regulations come into effect. Reports suggest that the Mahindra Verito, Verito Vibe, Xylo and Nuvosport might face the axe.

The MD also added that most Mahindra products meet crash safety norms that have been put in place since October 1, 2017. According to the latest government rule, ABS and airbags will become mandatory for all passenger vehicles from October 1, 2019. Currently, the Bolero is the only model in Mahindra's line-up that lacks safety equipment. An updated Bolero with ABS and airbags will be launched in July 2019.

Source: Money Control

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Probably this would be one of the most awaited news from Mahindra. One launch of BS-VI compliant 2.0ltr diesel engine and axing the non-performers. I always wondered why did Mahindra invest in products like Verito Vibe, Quanto, and Nuvosport. There are always better products in the market and no one will seriously consider these products. To be honest I have never seen a Nuvosport on road. But have seen one Verito Vibe and Quanto. Probably someone higher up in the hierarchy will have a KPI of no of product launches per year.

It is always wise to cut the flab and focus on their strong/capable products.


Scoop : Next-gen Mahindra 2.0-litre diesel to come with three power outputs -
140HP , 150HP and 185HP

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we can now confirm Mahindra is readying a new, BS-VI-compliant, 2.0-litre diesel engine set to replace the current 2.2-litre mHawk diesel engine

Interestingly, the 2.0-litre diesel will be offered in three states of tune for use in different models.
In the all-new Mahindra Thar (due to launch sometime in 2020), this engine will develop 140hp and over 300Nm of torque, a big jump in power terms over the existing model that makes 105hp and 247Nm from its 2.5-litre unit.

On the higher end, this 2.0-litre diesel will also be employed in the next-gen Mahindra XUV500 , this engine will produce an impressive 185hp – an increase of 30hp over the current-gen XUV500.

The 2.0-litre diesel mill will also be offered in a 150hp state of tune, which could potentially be used for the Mahindra Scorpio.

As reported earlier, Mahindra’s new 2.0-litre diesel engine will also power its partner Ford’s version of the next-gen XUV500.
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A XUV 5OO with 185 horses under the hood will turn it into a car with serious street cred. Assuming it is not priced too steeply, this variant will give the Endeavors & the Fortuners a good run for their money.

Can someone help me understand the difference between BSVI ready and BSVI compliant? I've seen this question raised on multiple threads with not so conclusive answers.
For example the new harrier seems to be BSVI ready but it's still under BSIV emission norms. Go figures.

Test mules of the XUV500, TUV300, Bolero and Supro with "BSVI-D" decals have been spotted testing, indicating that Mahindra has started road trials of its BS-VI compliant diesel engines. An image of an XUV300 with a BS6 sticker has also surfaced online.

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Reports suggest that Mahindra is developing a new BS-VI compliant 2.0-litre diesel engine that is expected to power the next generation Scorpio among other models. The next generation Thar is expected to dump its 2.5-litre diesel for a BS-VI compliant 2.0-litre unit. The XUV300 is also expected to get BS-VI compliant petrol and diesel engines.

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The BS-VI diesel engines are reported to get selective catalytic converters, diesel particulate filter and exhaust gas re-circulation. The new emission regulations will come into force in April 2020.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEf-6k5LgEA

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This is great. So the 2.2L unit can be made BS6 complaint . If this is true , then the next generation XUV is still sometime away. They will manage the BS6 transition with the current model itself.

Let these manufacturers cry all they want about how BS6-compliance is going to increase their costs by over a lakh. That's a load of bull. It would've apparently cost VW just about $400 (according to this book) to meet the even stricter emission norms in the USA (including California).

BS6, bring it on :thumbs up.

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Let these manufacturers cry all they want about how BS6-compliance is going to increase their costs by over a lakh. That's a load of bull. It would've apparently cost VW just about $400 (according to this book) to meet the even stricter emission norms in the USA (including California).

BS6, bring it on :thumbs up.

I believe Mahindra will not charge premium for BS-VI modifications. Especially not for XUV300, which is already over-priced.

But it is nice to see Mahindra is leading the pack and trying to bring things to table before it's too late!

Please correct me if I am wrong.
At the launch of Marazzo, it was announced that its diesel engine wont be shared with any of the older models.
Then what is TUV300 doing in this pack of BS6 SUVs?

"Mahindra & Mahindra, whose forte is producing sturdy diesel SUVs, is not giving up on the fuel. The company has pumped in more than Rs 1,000 crore into upgrading eight engines (including those used for powering commercial vehicles), 16 platforms and 35 variants to BS-VI standard."

“The only diesel passenger vehicle that we are not upgrading to BS-VI is the KUV100. That vehicle, which is powered by a 1.2-litre diesel engine, will be available in only petrol form."

http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/tec...59141.html/amp

"Starting with the smallest capacity engines, Mahindra will update both the 600cc and the 900cc commercial vehicle engines that power the likes of the Supro and the Jeeto pickups. While both the engines will get turbochargers to meet BS6 emissions standards,the 900cc engine will also have a naturally aspirated version that will meet the upcoming regulations."

http://www.autocarindia.com/car-news...evealed-412965

Mahindra reveals its BS-VI petrol and diesel engine line up

Mahindra has revealed its BS-VI compliant petrol and diesel engine line up. The updated engines will be introduced on Mahindra products ahead of April 2020, when the BS-VI regulations come into effect.

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Petrol engines:

The 625cc, single-cylinder, naturally aspirated engine that powers the Jeeto will be available in two states of tune - 22.8 BHP / 48 Nm and 20.4 BHP / 44 Nm.

The 1.2-litre, 3-cylinder turbocharged petrol engine that powers the XUV300 will be updated to meet BS-VI norms. It will produce 108 BHP and 190 Nm of torque. The direct-injection version of the same engine will be capable of producing 128 BHP and 230 Nm of torque. Mahindra will also be upgrading the 1.2-litre, 3-cylinder naturally aspirated engine that powers the KUV100.

Mahindra and Ssangyong have jointly developed a 1.5-litre, 4-cylinder turbocharged petrol engine that makes 161 BHP and 280 Nm of peak torque. This engine uses a dual-mass flywheel, cylinder head with integrated exhaust manifold and low-friction piston rings. Besides this, a new engine dubbed 'Future' will also be introduced.

Diesel engines:

The 600cc and 900cc diesel engines that power the Jeeto and Supro respectively will be updated to meet the BS-VI norms. Both engines will get turbochargers and will feature LNT or lean NOx trap method to reduce emissions. A naturally aspirated version of the 900cc engine will also be available.

The 1.5-litre 3-cylinder engine powering the Bolero and TUV300 and the 1.5-litre, 4-cylinder unit offered on the Verito will be upgraded. Similarly, the upgraded 1.5-litre unit powering the XUV300 will produce 113 BHP and 300 Nm of torque, while the Marazzo's 1.5-litre engine will make 121 BHP and 300 Nm in BS-VI guise.

The Scorpio and XUV500 will be offered with a 2.2-litre, 4-cylinder diesel engine with 138 BHP / 320 Nm and 153 BHP / 360 Nm respectively.

The 2.5-litre, 4-cylinder diesel engine that powers the Bolero will be offered in two states of tune - 64 BHP / 195 Nm and 74 BHP / 200 Nm of torque.

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Weren't small CVs like the Jeeto and Supro supposed to be phased out since they couldn't be made crash worthy? :Shockked:

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...w/69636369.cms
Goenka said that Mahindra has achieved the transition at a cost increase much lower than what it had earlier planned or what the general expectation is. While Mahindra will discontinue its small 1.2-litre diesel engine that it offers on its entry-level car KUV 100 owing to unfavourable cost-economics, it will still have eight diesel engines across its entire automotive range.

“Both Ford and SsangYong decided that they want to use Mahindra’s new petrol engines in their vehicles, which means that we have managed to develop an engine that is globally competitive,” Goenka said.
Looks like Maruti portrayed a grim picture regarding the costs of upgrading diesels, but Mahindra might just about prove Maruti wrong!

Looks like Mahindra has planned and executed the BS6 transition well . They have made the right press releases and never left the market confused about their BS6 strategy.

Curious to know how the 2.2L AVL block was made BS6 compliant. Have they gone the adblue route? A service person told me diesel engines less than 2 litres can be made BS6 complaint without using adblue. Since Mahindra had access to the 1.9-litre engine they developed for Delhi, it would be interesting to know the factors behind that decision and how they made 2.2-litre engine BS6 compliant.


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