New Tata Sumo!!!

wizardofid · 6th April 2007, 21:06

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Originally Posted by directinjection

This design job's been done by European designers, not Tata's inhouse guys.

Are you sure? Tata's have a fairly well established design centre in-house. Am not sure if they would like to spend on an overseas design agency for a vehicle which does not warrant that sort of investment.

wizardofid · 6th April 2007, 21:14

I think this vehicle (too) is ugly. 12 years after they launched the first version, which has remained virtually unchanged, the world has moved to higher aesthetic expectations at nearly the same price. If they are going to re-invest in a brand new set of body parts, they should have protected their investment with a really striking design.

There were other things they could have changed in the original style, even while keeping it still boxy, and got a much more proportionate and smart vehicle.

I would reserve any more comments till I see the real thing. Right now, I think it is ugly. I hope I'm proved wrong.

wizardofid · 6th April 2007, 21:16

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Originally Posted by condor

MPower: Isn't the Ingenio supposed to be a MPV [read: mini-van/ Innova-like], and not a MUV?

Mods is reject this because it might call for a new thread. But does anyone have any idea about the ingenio? Looks? Specs? features?

directinjection · 9th April 2007, 16:49

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Originally Posted by wizardofid

Are you sure?

Yes, I'm sure. A German company is involved in the styling of the new Sumo. I had posted the design agency's details in one of my earlier posts.

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Originally Posted by wizardofid

Tata's have a fairly well established design centre in-house. Am not sure if they would like to spend on an overseas design agency for a vehicle which does not warrant that sort of investment.

True, Tata have the best auto R&D facility in India in the form of their ERC. However, the fact is that after its initial runaway success, Sumo has been facing declining sales what with competitors having introduced superior and more contemporary products. By upgrading both engine and styling in the new Sumo, Tata wants to arrest and reverse this trend. That's the logic behind engaging a specialist European auto design house.

rahul_intlad · 9th April 2007, 16:56

Yes,it is a german company called IAV GmbH

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Tata Motors has roped in German engineering company, IAV GmbH (Ingenieurgesellschaft Auto und Verkehr), to design and develop its new multi-utility vehicle (MUV) platform. The new platform may replace Tata Motors' warhorse Sumo which has served the company for over 12 years

Source:
Tata Group | Tata Motors | Media reports | German firm to design Tata MUV

adc · 11th April 2007, 09:18

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Originally Posted by tushky

thanks ADC. New sumo really look handsome and macho that the current one. noise is much better than the current Truck like sound.interior is almost same as victa. a bit changed. i asked many times about technical aspects. but i got nothing.. it will not have rear spare wheel. tail lamps look like indigo.and please go and buy safari yar. or just wait and buy 2.2 lit. safari. sumo can never take place of Safari.

hi - Any more sightings? or is it now showtime in showrooms - it is supposed to get out sometime in April.

ramzsys · 11th April 2007, 18:19

april autocar india reports sale of 'tata's old workhorse sumo edged mahindra scorpio's sales and finds its position in top 10 list for feb 2k7.(abt 3100+ units sold)

How did this take place, even if there is no large discounts and the confirmed new sumo's arrival?

ashutoshb · 12th April 2007, 22:30

For an MUV.....this vehicle looks damn good!! We ve already seen the face in the avtar of the new 207. Its high time Mahindra does something with the Bolero.

amtak · 13th April 2007, 12:52

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Originally Posted by ashutoshb

For an MUV.....this vehicle looks damn good!! We ve already seen the face in the avtar of the new 207. Its high time Mahindra does something with the Bolero.

What do you expect from the Mahindra now...? They have already spoilt the looks of the Bolero...oops...I think you mean Mahindra should discontinue the Bolero!

nikeGoldWing · 13th April 2007, 15:06

the sumo's interior is way too basic, when will tata understand this issue????

benbsb29 · 13th April 2007, 15:38

@nikeGoldWing : Since the Sumo is aimed as a people mover, I dont really suppose they need to concentrate all that much on providing comforts. If the competition does, so will they. All a matter of who will take the first step.

ashutoshb · 14th April 2007, 23:17

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Originally Posted by amtak

What do you expect from the Mahindra now...? They have already spoilt the looks of the Bolero...oops...I think you mean Mahindra should discontinue the Bolero!

my point exactly!! they should either dump it or further strip it down to till land and start afresh with a new model.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 15th April 2007, 01:47

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Originally Posted by ramzsys

april autocar india reports sale of 'tata's old workhorse sumo edged mahindra scorpio's sales and finds its position in top 10 list for feb 2k7.(abt 3100+ units sold)

How did this take place, even if there is no large discounts and the confirmed new sumo's arrival?

Took me by surprise too... Dont understand what happened///

Anybody got ideas on why this phenomenon happened???

DCEite · 15th April 2007, 15:40

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Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Took me by surprise too... Dont understand what happened///

Anybody got ideas on why this phenomenon happened???

More and more IT companies and call centers are preferring TATA Sumo, since the old workhorse (Qualis) is no longer in production so it is being replaced. TATA Sumo is cheaper than Tavera, Innova hence its being preferred.
Just my 2 cents.

ramzsys · 16th April 2007, 19:31

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Originally Posted by dceite

More and more IT companies and call centers are preferring TATA Sumo, since the old workhorse (Qualis) is no longer in production so it is being replaced. TATA Sumo is cheaper than Tavera, Innova hence its being preferred.
Just my 2 cents.

Is the call centres using spacio/tourin?
So, sumo includes the spacio/tourin, and victa as well i suppose.

Also, innova which sold in 5ks is out of the ACI top sales list.

6th April 2007, 21:14	#62
wizardofid BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 207 Thanked: 6 Times	I think this vehicle (too) is ugly. 12 years after they launched the first version, which has remained virtually unchanged, the world has moved to higher aesthetic expectations at nearly the same price. If they are going to re-invest in a brand new set of body parts, they should have protected their investment with a really striking design. There were other things they could have changed in the original style, even while keeping it still boxy, and got a much more proportionate and smart vehicle. I would reserve any more comments till I see the real thing. Right now, I think it is ugly. I hope I'm proved wrong.
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11th April 2007, 18:19	#67
ramzsys Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NH209 Posts: 1,775 Thanked: 1,462 Times	april autocar india reports sale of 'tata's old workhorse sumo edged mahindra scorpio's sales and finds its position in top 10 list for feb 2k7.(abt 3100+ units sold) How did this take place, even if there is no large discounts and the confirmed new sumo's arrival?
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12th April 2007, 22:30	#68
ashutoshb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: NOIDA Posts: 1,755 Thanked: 4,287 Times View My Garage	For an MUV.....this vehicle looks damn good!! We ve already seen the face in the avtar of the new 207. Its high time Mahindra does something with the Bolero.
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13th April 2007, 15:06	#70
nikeGoldWing Newbie Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore, now in Dubai Posts: 9 Thanked: 0 Times	the sumo's interior is way too basic, when will tata understand this issue????
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13th April 2007, 15:38	#71
benbsb29 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,963 Thanked: 13,153 Times View My Garage	@nikeGoldWing : Since the Sumo is aimed as a people mover, I dont really suppose they need to concentrate all that much on providing comforts. If the competition does, so will they. All a matter of who will take the first step.
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