Rumour: 7-seater Kia MPV could take on the Maruti Ertiga

TusharK · 21st June 2019, 15:41

According to a media report, Kia is considering a 7-seater MPV that could rival the likes of the Maruti Ertiga and Mahindra Marazzo.

Rumour: 7-seater Kia MPV could take on the Maruti Ertiga-kia-carens.jpg

Reports suggest that the MPV could be based on the same platform as the Seltos mid-size SUV. It is expected to be positioned below the Kia Carens. In addition to competing in the domestic MPV market, Kia might also export it to markets like Indonesia.

Earlier this week, Kia unveiled the Seltos in India. The 5-seater SUV is expected to go on sale later this year. It has been reported that Kia believes a 7-seater Seltos will not be able to offset the development costs. Therefore, the company is looking at an MPV that could cater to a different customer base.

Source: Autocar India

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SpideyBoy · 21st June 2019, 16:05

This is a very good strategy from Kia, they have all the products under their belt. All they have to do is understand our market well and bring the right product and price it well. At this pace, I believe Kia will soon beat some of the existing manufacturers pretty soon and play a significant role in Indian automobile industry. Rough tides now, I hope our market settles pretty soon and opens gates for Kia. It's nice to see a brand considering Indian market pretty serious and setting steps in the right direction. This should definitely set an example for others.

NiInJa · 21st June 2019, 18:56

I've sampled the Carens abroad and though the car was typical Hyundai quality inside-out, the size was comparable to old Ertiga and the third row seats were too cramped.

Hope they increase the size of the car when launching it against the newer Ertiga.

SpideyBoy · 21st June 2019, 23:26

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Originally Posted by NiInJa

I've sampled the Carens abroad and though the car was typical Hyundai quality inside-out, the size was comparable to old Ertiga and the third row seats were too cramped.

Hope they increase the size of the car when launching it against the newer Ertiga.

As per the Autocar's article, Carens was used in the article just for representation. Kia is planning to build another MPV below Carens based on the Seltos platform.

it would be nice if they can make 3rd row more spacious and accommodating.

Iyencar · 22nd June 2019, 13:34

Yes! Yes! Yes! Bring it on Kia! The Ertiga sorely needs competition for Maruti to wake up and stop doing the bare minimum needed. It comes on an unsafe platform, has average build and skimps on some seriously useful features in the lower models. All it has going for it is a nice design and good space utilization.

Thermodynamics · 22nd June 2019, 14:04

What Hyundai could not do, Kia is attempting. Certain segments were exclusively ruled by MSIL particularly Omni, Eeco and Ertiga. And there are certain segments, Hyundai could do well but hasn’t ventured in. For example a 7-8 seater MPV with 1.6 diesel motor placed below Innova above Marazzo should do well. It looks like Kia’s initial strategy is to fill the gaps in Hyundai’s portfolio.

By bringing a budget MPV, Kia would not eat into Hyundai’s portfolio but will take MSIL head on. It would be interesting because the Ertiga is evolving as well and may grow tougher by the time Kia brings this on.

GTO · 24th June 2019, 11:35

Bring it on, Kia! The cash-rich & super-aggressive company is very clearly targeting segments which have less competition & lots of potential to grow. That's smart, instead of launching just a hatchback or compact sedan in crowded categories.

Kia MPVs have a decent reputation internationally. However, I don't think this proposed MPV will be an Ertiga competitor. More like Marazzo IMHO. Plus, remember, Kia is speaking the "value" and "premium" language in India.

Am shocked that Hyundai hasn't rolled out an MPV in its 20 years in India, despite our love for family vehicles.

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Originally Posted by Thermodynamics

It would be interesting because the Ertiga is evolving as well and may grow tougher by the time Kia brings this on.

So true. The new Ertiga is a huge leap ahead of the 1st-gen. And the recently introduced 1.5L diesel is a sweet motor too.

rajshenoy · 24th June 2019, 11:51

KIA surely has aggressive plans and are already differentiating themselves from Hyundai(who focused more on small cars to start with).

We have seen previous attempts doing not so great - Xylo, Mobilio, BR-V, Enjoy, Evalia, Lodgy. They all tried to attack either Innova or Ertiga and grab the market share.

Apart from the Innova and Ertiga, others have not really tasted success in selling MUV i feel. Marazzo though sells in 4 digits, feels like a "poor cabbies innova" and is no where close to the sales figure of Innova. Interesting to see how Kia wants to tackle this !!

I also wonder how the markets react once BS-VI kicks in. Diesels are not favoured anymore and petrol+MUV combo is not that fuel efficient(assuming the MUV are meant for the cruising)

volkman10 · 8th August 2019, 12:06

KIA to launch its MPV in early 2020.

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Keeping in mind, that our next product (most probably MPV) will be launched in the next six months

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Reinhard · 8th August 2019, 12:22

Lovely and I hope it's true!! Just hate monopolies in markets and MSIL has had it for too long in many segments. Awesome that rich multinational companies are finally looking at us as a mature market for quality products and not as a dumping ground for outdated models with worn out stamping presses sent to India.

The car looks so good!

Now that these things are arriving, I wish again that the wonderful station wagons come back. Only in Germany where they are still liked I think. And I know my wish won't be granted. The moment car's length increases, we want 2 more seats

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padmrajravi · 8th August 2019, 13:18

Really love the direction Hyundai and Kia is taking. They seem to have a clear plan for India unlike the others. MSIL monopoly has actually been threatened with Venue. Never the last few years has someone threatened to take such an important segment away from MSIL.

Kia has got quite a few MPVs availiable in their portfolio and they know how to make it attractive for buyers. And Eritga is not without its faults. Only reason it does well is because of lack of competition. Mahindra messed up the marazoo feature spread and has left that segment open for more players.

I won't be surprised if few years down the line Hyundai and Kia togather enjoys more market share than MSIL.

RM Motorsports · 8th August 2019, 15:37

The Carnival MPV gets a clean and simplistic design inside-out.
It is likely to come with Android Auto, Apple CarPlay, Kia’s UVO connected car tech, powered front seats, and more
The Carnival MPV will sit above the Innova Crysta in India.
It is expected to be priced from Rs 22 lakh to Rs 30 lakh (ex-showroom).

https://www.zigwheels.com/news-featu...-launch/34727/

21st June 2019, 15:41	#1
TusharK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Pune Posts: 6,266 Thanked: 55,817 Times	Rumour: 7-seater Kia MPV could take on the Maruti Ertiga According to a media report, Kia is considering a 7-seater MPV that could rival the likes of the Maruti Ertiga and Mahindra Marazzo. Reports suggest that the MPV could be based on the same platform as the Seltos mid-size SUV. It is expected to be positioned below the Kia Carens. In addition to competing in the domestic MPV market, Kia might also export it to markets like Indonesia. Earlier this week, Kia unveiled the Seltos in India. The 5-seater SUV is expected to go on sale later this year. It has been reported that Kia believes a 7-seater Seltos will not be able to offset the development costs. Therefore, the company is looking at an MPV that could cater to a different customer base. Source: Autocar India Link to Team-BHP News
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SpideyBoy BHPian Join Date: May 2019 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 209 Thanked: 839 Times	Re: Rumour: 7-seater Kia MPV could take on the Maruti Ertiga This is a very good strategy from Kia, they have all the products under their belt. All they have to do is understand our market well and bring the right product and price it well. At this pace, I believe Kia will soon beat some of the existing manufacturers pretty soon and play a significant role in Indian automobile industry. Rough tides now, I hope our market settles pretty soon and opens gates for Kia. It's nice to see a brand considering Indian market pretty serious and setting steps in the right direction. This should definitely set an example for others.
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NiInJa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Pune Posts: 1,060 Thanked: 3,721 Times	Re: Rumour: 7-seater Kia MPV could take on the Maruti Ertiga I've sampled the Carens abroad and though the car was typical Hyundai quality inside-out, the size was comparable to old Ertiga and the third row seats were too cramped. Hope they increase the size of the car when launching it against the newer Ertiga.
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Iyencar BHPian Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Mumbai Posts: 464 Thanked: 2,317 Times	Re: Rumour: 7-seater Kia MPV could take on the Maruti Ertiga Yes! Yes! Yes! Bring it on Kia! The Ertiga sorely needs competition for Maruti to wake up and stop doing the bare minimum needed. It comes on an unsafe platform, has average build and skimps on some seriously useful features in the lower models. All it has going for it is a nice design and good space utilization.
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Thermodynamics BHPian Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 832 Thanked: 4,131 Times	Re: Rumour: 7-seater Kia MPV could take on the Maruti Ertiga What Hyundai could not do, Kia is attempting. Certain segments were exclusively ruled by MSIL particularly Omni, Eeco and Ertiga. And there are certain segments, Hyundai could do well but hasn’t ventured in. For example a 7-8 seater MPV with 1.6 diesel motor placed below Innova above Marazzo should do well. It looks like Kia’s initial strategy is to fill the gaps in Hyundai’s portfolio. By bringing a budget MPV, Kia would not eat into Hyundai’s portfolio but will take MSIL head on. It would be interesting because the Ertiga is evolving as well and may grow tougher by the time Kia brings this on. Last edited by Thermodynamics : 22nd June 2019 at 14:13.
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rajshenoy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 2,885 Thanked: 2,230 Times View My Garage	Re: Rumour: 7-seater Kia MPV could take on the Maruti Ertiga KIA surely has aggressive plans and are already differentiating themselves from Hyundai(who focused more on small cars to start with). We have seen previous attempts doing not so great - Xylo, Mobilio, BR-V, Enjoy, Evalia, Lodgy. They all tried to attack either Innova or Ertiga and grab the market share. Apart from the Innova and Ertiga, others have not really tasted success in selling MUV i feel. Marazzo though sells in 4 digits, feels like a "poor cabbies innova" and is no where close to the sales figure of Innova. Interesting to see how Kia wants to tackle this !! I also wonder how the markets react once BS-VI kicks in. Diesels are not favoured anymore and petrol+MUV combo is not that fuel efficient(assuming the MUV are meant for the cruising)
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Reinhard Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Pune Posts: 4,854 Thanked: 17,732 Times View My Garage	Re: Rumour: 7-seater Kia MPV could take on the Maruti Ertiga Lovely and I hope it's true!! Just hate monopolies in markets and MSIL has had it for too long in many segments. Awesome that rich multinational companies are finally looking at us as a mature market for quality products and not as a dumping ground for outdated models with worn out stamping presses sent to India. The car looks so good! Now that these things are arriving, I wish again that the wonderful station wagons come back. Only in Germany where they are still liked I think. And I know my wish won't be granted. The moment car's length increases, we want 2 more seats . Last edited by Reinhard : 8th August 2019 at 12:38.
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padmrajravi Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2019 Location: Kozhikode Posts: 1,229 Thanked: 5,517 Times	Re: Rumour: 7-seater Kia MPV could take on the Maruti Ertiga Really love the direction Hyundai and Kia is taking. They seem to have a clear plan for India unlike the others. MSIL monopoly has actually been threatened with Venue. Never the last few years has someone threatened to take such an important segment away from MSIL. Kia has got quite a few MPVs availiable in their portfolio and they know how to make it attractive for buyers. And Eritga is not without its faults. Only reason it does well is because of lack of competition. Mahindra messed up the marazoo feature spread and has left that segment open for more players. I won't be surprised if few years down the line Hyundai and Kia togather enjoys more market share than MSIL.
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RM Motorsports Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,270 Thanked: 5,174 Times	Re: Rumour: 7-seater Kia MPV could take on the Maruti Ertiga The Carnival MPV gets a clean and simplistic design inside-out. It is likely to come with Android Auto, Apple CarPlay, Kia’s UVO connected car tech, powered front seats, and more The Carnival MPV will sit above the Innova Crysta in India. It is expected to be priced from Rs 22 lakh to Rs 30 lakh (ex-showroom). https://www.zigwheels.com/news-featu...-launch/34727/ Last edited by RM Motorsports : 8th August 2019 at 15:45.
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