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Originally Posted by RaviK

The reason quoted by law minister of Rajasthan is high possibility of increase in corruption as well as inability of common folks to afford such hefty fines
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ind...156-2019-09-01

When we have minsters like this, how is India ever going to prosper. By this logic there are other non traffic based crimes which carry hefty fines, shouldnt they be abolished too.

Its is more likely that his hentchmen might end up paying money which inturn comes from his pocket, thats why he is all worried.

[volkman10]

Truck drivers should wear shirt, pant, shoes – Or else pay Rs 2k fine

Drivers and helpers of commercial vehicles could soon have to wear full length pants, tee shirts/shirts and shoes and socks while plying their vehicles. The otherwise more comfortable lungi and vest will soon attract a fine of Rs.2,000 as this attire has come under serious attention in Uttar Pradesh and stiff penalties will be imposed under the new Motor Vehicle Act.

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[Abhishek3001]

Hey guys, a quick question regarding seatbelts and helmets :

The current consensus seems to be that only the driver/rider is required to wear a seatbelt/helmet. The police here in Nagpur also seem to be paying no attention to the passengers without seatbelts/helmets.

Is it possible that in the future I may be fined because of a passenger not wearing a seatbelt/helmet?
Will my license be revoked for three months because of a passenger not wearing a seatbelt/helmet?

Thanks

[RaviK]

Originally Posted by RaviK

The reason quoted by law minister of Rajasthan is high possibility of increase in corruption as well as inability of common folks to afford]

Apparently, there are more people joining this train of thought. Gujrat government too, has decided to slash the fines, ranging from 25% to 90%
https://m.timesofindia.com/india/guj...icleshow/71072

[Sukanta73]

There are many versions of new motor vehicle acts are available in website.

I am looking for the fines of not wearing seat belts of rear passenger in car.

If someone can share the full New motor vehicle act, it helps the entire forum and as well as non-members?

Originally Posted by Sukanta73

If someone can share the full New motor vehicle act, it helps the entire forum and as well as non-members?

I have found the full documents

[revvharder]

Had only heard about car driver getting challaned for not wearing an helmet.

[wbd8779]

Why is the challan amount as 0 ? is this for you , or has been picked up from social media

[revvharder]

Originally Posted by wbd8779

Why is the challan amount as 0 ? is this for you , or has been picked up from social media

It popped up on my twitter feed today and has been doing rounds on twitter. I myself am clueless why the challan amount is Rs.0.
Though when cross checked the challan pending site there is a challan with the same exact details even there the amount shows NA. Though the number mentioned on the challan is not super clear but can be matched from below picture.
Even the challan mentions two wheeler for the vehicle.

[LionX]

”The Union Government of India has issued an advisory to all states and union territories for their compliance with the Motor Vehicles (Amendment) Act 2019 (MVAA 2019) that came into force on September 1 last year. The measure comes on the back of resistance from numerous states on implementation of the new regulations, owing to a widespread backlash from the public”

However, some state governments refused to follow through, which prompted the centre to seek legal advice from the Ministry of Law and Justice; which, in turn, has elicited the following response from the Attorney General of India, KK Venugopal, “The Motor Vehicles Act, 1988 (as amended by the Motor Vehicles (Amendment) Act, 2019) is a Parliamentary legislation, the state governments cannot pass any law/take executive action to lower the penalty/fine below that prescribed under the statutory provisions of the Motor Vehicles Act, unless the assent of the President is obtained to such state law.”

The NDA-led government has also suggested consequences if states fail to enforce the updated regulations. Venugopal further stated, “The next question that arises is as to the powers of the Union of India in case of the failure of the state governments to implement the amending act in accordance with its own terms. Reference for this purpose may be made to Article 256, which authorises the Union of India to issue directions to a state as may be necessary for that purpose.”

“The disobedience of these directions could well attract the provisions of Article 356 of the constitution of India, and one could therefore proceed on the basis that the central laws would implicitly be obeyed by the state governments.”

https://www.autocarindia.com/car-new...ct-2019-415488

[ValarMorghulis]

Happy with this. The number of non-helmet drivers and signal jumpers had sky-rocketed in namma Bengaluru post alleviation of the fines.
This will help keep the unruly traffic in check.

[GrammarNazi]

IIRC The helmet rule was lifted in Gujarat despite having the same political party ruling at the center.

Nitin Gadkari himself said multiple times on various news channels that some of the penalties mentioned in the new Motor Vehicles Act are the upper limit keeping in mind that the upper limit of penalties are meant to be imposed at a time much in the future, and that State Govts can choose to impose penalties in the lower limit.

Would be good to have some clarity about what the central government considers as fair compliance to the new MV Act.

[UMe]

Karnataka set to reintroduce hefty traffic fines, in phased manner:

Union government reasoned with us on why they wanted to implement these huge fines. The reasoning was convincing and we have told the centre that Karnataka will implement the fines in a phased manner.
The centre reasoned that there are as many as one crore road accident deaths in the country and that it was one of the worst when compared on a global scale.

https://m.timesofindia.com/city/beng...w/73670025.cms

Hope to see some adherence of traffic rules atleast within city limits where ever traffic police is present and let the common sense prevail with these heavy fines

[wheelguy]

New Motor Vehicles Act's roll-out in Maharashtra a distant possibility. - link

"We feel that the penalties for certain offences are way too high and should be reduced. A report on it will be ready by next week and sent to the road transport and highways ministry with a request to lower the penalties. Further decision by the state depends on the ministry's reply," transport minister Anil Parab told TOI .

All this happened when Maharashtra was governed by the BJP-Shiv Sena alliance, which too had refrained from implementing the amended stature in the state. "When I was the transport minister, I had sent a letter to the Union transport minister urging him to reconsider the quantum of the penalties. But there was no reply to the letter," Diwakar Raote, Parab's predecessor, told TOI .

A senior official in the transport department said the situation has not changed much even after Maharashtra got a new government. "These decisions are taken at the chief minister-level and we don't have any clue. The amended Act has not been implemented in the state till now. The government has to issue a notification first," the official said.

Sujit Patwardhan of NGO Parisar said, "The cost of living has gone up, but that hasn't deterred people from spending. A bike or a scooter costs nothing less than 65,000 and the cost of fuel has gone up as well. But we don't see people not buying two-wheelers or other vehicles."

He added, "Then where is the problem if the quantum of the penalties is high? The lawmakers should realize that the amended Act would curb violation of the motor vehicle rules."

I always feel that higher penalties are need of the hour for our country, this stance by Maharashtra's government is senseless. And re-calibrating the devices and updating the systems with new penalties shouldn't be such a big issue to even consider, it is simply stupid to say it as a challenging issue.

[UMe]

Originally Posted by wheelguy

I always feel that higher penalties are need of the hour for our country, this stance by Maharashtra's government is senseless. And re-calibrating the devices and updating the systems with new penalties shouldn't be such a big issue to even consider, it is simply stupid to say it as a challenging issue.

Recently Karnataka govt notified of reintroducing the hefty traffic fines. I guess it depends on the govt in power to tweak the law as per their benefit
Given the grave situation we are in due to high number of accidents and fatalities, there should be consensus among the government agencies and political parties.

[pedrolourenco]

Originally Posted by alexpaul

Its time we need to introduce honking bill to reduce noise pollution.

Very urgently needed.

Not sure if this works out but I have been thinking if we can help the traffic police by sharing the snippets of video captured from dashcam while driving .

Goa Police had a scheme called Traffic Sentinel. Anyone could download the app and register as a Sentinel. There were monetary rewards for reporting. It was stopped after some sentinels got thrashed by the people. They were the guys who would sit at a location for the whole day taking pics and video clips.

Originally Posted by TROOPER

[b]Get driving licence, register car, bike at any RTO in Maharashtra

Goa used to allow this if a choice number was not available in the running series in your RTO. This has since been stopped.

Originally Posted by Tojo_GotBhp

Can anyone please enlighten me on the minimum age for obtaining driving lisence?

16 years for ungeared 2 wheeler and 18 years for everything else.

Originally Posted by Abhishek3001

The current consensus seems to be that only the driver/rider is required to wear a seatbelt/helmet.

It's common sense that if a car is in a collision, both driver and passenger are subjected to the same forces and would suffer similar injuries. Same with a bike. In an accident both rider and pillion will fall off the bike a probability of head injuries is the same. I guess you shouldn't bother about the law here (which basically specifies the bare minimum) and go ahead with using seatbelt for driver and passengers as well as helmets for rider and pillion.

The police here in Nagpur also seem to be paying no attention to the passengers without seatbelts/helmets.

Nothing wrong in that. They are actually doing people a favour.

Originally Posted by revvharder

Had only heard about car driver getting challaned for not wearing an helmet.

There have been quite a few cases of this in Goa. I think its some software glitch and not the stupidity of the policeman.