DICOR Indigo and Marina launched by Tata

himanshugoswami · 8th February 2007, 20:41

Tata Motors extends its common rail diesel (DICOR) engine
to the Indigo Sedan and Estate range

Having launched two new range of passenger cars last month in January – the facelifted 2007 Indica and the long wheel base Indigo XL – Tata Motors today announced the launch of another two new models on its best selling Indigo sedan and the Indigo Marina estate range with its new 1.4 litre Direct Injection Common Rail (DICOR) diesel engine. The DICOR option will henceforth be available in the top end versions of the Indigo Sedan and the Indigo Marina estate.

The silent, 32 bit microprocessor based 1.4 litre, 70 PS engine with a high torque of 140 Nm offers the most contemporary diesel engine technology, featuring high pressure multiple injections, use of hydraulic and low friction mechanisms ensuring better combustion and more fuel efficiency.

The 16-valve engine has Dual Overhead Camshafts, which enhance the high end power output of the engine and a Variable Geometry Turbocharger (VGT), which minimises the turbo lag at lower engine rpms for improved driveability. The DICOR engine powered Indigo sedan and Indigo Marina station-wagon is priced at Rs. 5.85 lakhs and Rs 5.98 lakhs (ex-showroom Delhi) respectively.

Tata Motors launched its first common rail diesel engine on the Tata Safari in 2005 as a 3 litre configuration and between the naturally aspirated, turbo-charged, turbo-charged intercooled and common rail options, offers the most diverse diesel engine range on any car and utility vehicle range in the country

Source:
Tata Motors - Media Centre

nbr · 8th February 2007, 20:51

WOW ! DICOR engined Indigo and Marina ,launched so soon. Hope the new motor doesn't have any technical faults unlike other TATA models.
can the new DICOR engine prevent potential TATA customers from going towards Diesel SWIFT, LOGAN is to be seen.

sajo · 8th February 2007, 21:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by himanshugoswami

Tata Motors extends its common rail diesel (DICOR) engine
to the Indigo Sedan and Estate range

The DICOR engine powered Indigo sedan and Indigo Marina station-wagon is priced at Rs. 5.85 lakhs and Rs 5.98 lakhs (ex-showroom Delhi) respectively.

5.85 Lakhs???

And that too ex-showroom Delhi?? For a 70ps engine? Where did the new technology go?

CrAzY dRiVeR · 8th February 2007, 21:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by sajo

5.85 Lakhs???

And that too ex-showroom Delhi?? For a 70ps engine? Where did the new technology go?

70 ps only even with VGT???

and 140 Nm torque too??? What did they wanted to do by bringing in a DiCOR???

theMAG · 8th February 2007, 21:55

Peace. We need to study its torque curve better to qualify its insufficiency or otherwise.

Congrats to Tata for VGTing the Dicor. Maruti - what stopped you on the 1.3 multijet ?

shivraj · 9th February 2007, 00:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by himanshugoswami

Tata Motors extends its common rail diesel (DICOR) engine
to the Indigo Sedan and Estate range

Having launched two new range of passenger cars last month in January – the facelifted 2007 Indica and the long wheel base Indigo XL – Tata Motors today announced the launch of another two new models on its best selling Indigo sedan and the Indigo Marina estate range with its new 1.4 litre Direct Injection Common Rail (DICOR) diesel engine. The DICOR option will henceforth be available in the top end versions of the Indigo Sedan and the Indigo Marina estate.

The silent, 32 bit microprocessor based 1.4 litre, 70 PS engine with a high torque of 140 Nm offers the most contemporary diesel engine technology, featuring high pressure multiple injections, use of hydraulic and low friction mechanisms ensuring better combustion and more fuel efficiency.

The 16-valve engine has Dual Overhead Camshafts, which enhance the high end power output of the engine and a Variable Geometry Turbocharger (VGT), which minimises the turbo lag at lower engine rpms for improved driveability. The DICOR engine powered Indigo sedan and Indigo Marina station-wagon is priced at Rs. 5.85 lakhs and Rs 5.98 lakhs (ex-showroom Delhi) respectively.

Tata Motors launched its first common rail diesel engine on the Tata Safari in 2005 as a 3 litre configuration and between the naturally aspirated, turbo-charged, turbo-charged intercooled and common rail options, offers the most diverse diesel engine range on any car and utility vehicle range in the country

Source:
Tata Motors - Media Centre

i think they are over pricing the technology and making it available only in the lx and sx models i think is not fair! people buying the "ls" who could strech max 50k from the ls onwards are stuck as the dicor is 50k+ to the existing lx that makes it a good 1 lakh additional to the existing ls.

if they had the engine even on the ls it could have been easier for people buying the ls to go in for the ls-dicor!as it would have been 59+ to the ls indirect injected model!

well for now tata is playing games! i think once the logan in ..... things will get tighter and they'l give more vfm!

" DAMN THE TATAS AS OF NOW! "

1100D · 9th February 2007, 01:08

The 70 bhp and the Torque figure are the maximum figures at the respective rpms. Which in no way indicates how much torque (the real pulling force) the engine makes at other rpm's. So even with the same figure for power or torque, the engine could be pulling much stronger. ACI says Tata deliberately restricted the power as the old indica/indigo platform/chassis does not have the ability to sustain over long term the high torque the engine can make.
But the big question is, when will the Indica DICOR happen, itching to see the DICOR logo occupying the space occupied by that uncool TURBO logo behind those lovely red cars.

speedzak · 9th February 2007, 01:20

Wow! So that has finally happened.
70PS may sound little but I think TaTa is just getting started with these engines. Just wait till the new Indica etc.. Comes out.
This happens with Tatas I guess. Remember the Safari Dicor? First it was launched with the 3ltr engine but less power. Now, the new Safari will have a smaller capacity engine but with more power. So, never under estimate these developments.

Kudos TATA. Keep it up.

navdeep · 9th February 2007, 09:59

There shouldn't be much gap in pricing between Lx and Xl so the price of 5.85.
It will be thumbs down for both sedans. I don't think they will continue to have same amount of sales as they use to have with Indigo.

Another reason for people to go for Swift D.

maxbhp · 9th February 2007, 10:06

GUYS this engine is really neat .

I drove an Indigo XL . Its quite linear like a petrol . This is not a car made for boyracing so redlining it in each gear is not the best way to get her to go . Treat it with respect and its really something else . Its quite silent for a Tata . XL looks nice upfront though side profile still looks weird and stupid with the boot going flat and abrupt slope and the front bonnet having a slope right from the windshield to the bumper .

All they need to do now is Change the whole body and the gearbox and the plastics and re tune the suspension ......ooops that said the only good part is the price and the engine .

Renault(not Dacia) Logan looks much better shaped .And the car is having similar kind of engine and they are going to price it close . .........so who's going to win ?

nispatel · 9th February 2007, 10:12

Tata Indigo Dicor :
The silent, 32 bit microprocessor based 1.4 litre, 70 PS engine with a high torque of 140 Nm offers the most
Price (Ex show room):
Indigo Rs. 5.85 lakhs onwards Ex show room
Maruti Swift D:
5-STEP MULTI INJECTION * COMPACT 1.3 LITRE DOHC ENGINE *
CLASS BEATING TORQUE OF 190 NM AND POWER OF 75 BHP
Price (Ex show room):
Swift Diesel LDi 4,66,269
Swift Diesel VDi 4,94,795

Tata's really haven't found the winner in this Dicor offering. Yes, torque curve can best give the real picture but apperantly and considering reputation of Tata and Maruti, there isn't a reason to go for Tata unless one really needs a boot as it's not available in Swift. I think that too will be taken care when new Maruti Baleno arrives.

rkg · 9th February 2007, 12:06

Well said Nipatel
Unless TATA put the 1.3 JTD in their cars there is no way they can retain their leadership position in compact diesels. The more they delay indica with 1.3 JTD the more swift gains. huge amounts of space does not compensate for a inferior engine.

spadival · 9th February 2007, 12:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxbhp

GUYS this engine is really neat .

I drove an Indigo XL . Its quite linear like a petrol . This is not a car made for boyracing so redlining it in each gear is not the best way to get her to go . Treat it with respect and its really something else .

I would second that even though I havent driven it.. Only yesterday, I was cruising along NH4 on the way to office and the test car appeared on my rear view mirror in no time at all.. One moment there werent any vehicles behind me and the next moment, he was breathing down my neck !!

GTO · 9th February 2007, 12:28

I find it pretty surprising that there is no power improvement, atleast not a significant one. To the end buyer, what additional value is he getting by paying the extra $$$. Sure there may be some torque curve difference, but still the difference is not as significant as in other diesel mills.

As someone mentioned, Tata could have deliberately restricted the power so they dont have to upgrade the gearbox and transmission.

tifosikrishna · 9th February 2007, 12:33

I guess dicored indigo will be sold on the premise of better FE figures and refinement levels. Going by Fiesta TDCi acceptance in the market, bhp figures shouldnt be a cause of concern.

Regards
Tifosi.

8th February 2007, 20:41	#1
himanshugoswami Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: !!!! Posts: 2,303 Thanked: 2,619 Times	DICOR Indigo and Marina launched by Tata Tata Motors extends its common rail diesel (DICOR) engine to the Indigo Sedan and Estate range Having launched two new range of passenger cars last month in January – the facelifted 2007 Indica and the long wheel base Indigo XL – Tata Motors today announced the launch of another two new models on its best selling Indigo sedan and the Indigo Marina estate range with its new 1.4 litre Direct Injection Common Rail (DICOR) diesel engine. The DICOR option will henceforth be available in the top end versions of the Indigo Sedan and the Indigo Marina estate. The silent, 32 bit microprocessor based 1.4 litre, 70 PS engine with a high torque of 140 Nm offers the most contemporary diesel engine technology, featuring high pressure multiple injections, use of hydraulic and low friction mechanisms ensuring better combustion and more fuel efficiency. The 16-valve engine has Dual Overhead Camshafts, which enhance the high end power output of the engine and a Variable Geometry Turbocharger (VGT), which minimises the turbo lag at lower engine rpms for improved driveability. The DICOR engine powered Indigo sedan and Indigo Marina station-wagon is priced at Rs. 5.85 lakhs and Rs 5.98 lakhs (ex-showroom Delhi) respectively. Tata Motors launched its first common rail diesel engine on the Tata Safari in 2005 as a 3 litre configuration and between the naturally aspirated, turbo-charged, turbo-charged intercooled and common rail options, offers the most diverse diesel engine range on any car and utility vehicle range in the country Source: Tata Motors - Media Centre Last edited by adya33 : 8th February 2007 at 22:50. Reason: Avoid using FONT tags
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8th February 2007, 20:51	#2
nbr BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: MANGALORE/BALEHONNUR/DUBAI Posts: 438 Thanked: 47 Times View My Garage	WOW ! DICOR engined Indigo and Marina ,launched so soon. Hope the new motor doesn't have any technical faults unlike other TATA models. can the new DICOR engine prevent potential TATA customers from going towards Diesel SWIFT, LOGAN is to be seen.
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8th February 2007, 21:55	#5
theMAG Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Avon, CT Posts: 7,217 Thanked: 1,807 Times View My Garage	Peace. We need to study its torque curve better to qualify its insufficiency or otherwise. Congrats to Tata for VGTing the Dicor. Maruti - what stopped you on the 1.3 multijet ?
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9th February 2007, 01:08	#7
1100D Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calcutta Posts: 4,390 Thanked: 4,096 Times View My Garage	The 70 bhp and the Torque figure are the maximum figures at the respective rpms. Which in no way indicates how much torque (the real pulling force) the engine makes at other rpm's. So even with the same figure for power or torque, the engine could be pulling much stronger. ACI says Tata deliberately restricted the power as the old indica/indigo platform/chassis does not have the ability to sustain over long term the high torque the engine can make. But the big question is, when will the Indica DICOR happen, itching to see the DICOR logo occupying the space occupied by that uncool TURBO logo behind those lovely red cars.
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9th February 2007, 01:20	#8
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	Wow! So that has finally happened. 70PS may sound little but I think TaTa is just getting started with these engines. Just wait till the new Indica etc.. Comes out. This happens with Tatas I guess. Remember the Safari Dicor? First it was launched with the 3ltr engine but less power. Now, the new Safari will have a smaller capacity engine but with more power. So, never under estimate these developments. Kudos TATA. Keep it up.
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9th February 2007, 09:59	#9
navdeep BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 892 Thanked: 4 Times	There shouldn't be much gap in pricing between Lx and Xl so the price of 5.85. It will be thumbs down for both sedans. I don't think they will continue to have same amount of sales as they use to have with Indigo. Another reason for people to go for Swift D.
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9th February 2007, 10:06	#10
maxbhp Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: C C K Posts: 1,382 Thanked: 89 Times View My Garage	GUYS this engine is really neat . I drove an Indigo XL . Its quite linear like a petrol . This is not a car made for boyracing so redlining it in each gear is not the best way to get her to go . Treat it with respect and its really something else . Its quite silent for a Tata . XL looks nice upfront though side profile still looks weird and stupid with the boot going flat and abrupt slope and the front bonnet having a slope right from the windshield to the bumper . All they need to do now is Change the whole body and the gearbox and the plastics and re tune the suspension ......ooops that said the only good part is the price and the engine . Renault(not Dacia) Logan looks much better shaped .And the car is having similar kind of engine and they are going to price it close . .........so who's going to win ? Last edited by maxbhp : 9th February 2007 at 10:10.
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9th February 2007, 10:12	#11
nispatel BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 97 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	Tata Indigo Dicor : The silent, 32 bit microprocessor based 1.4 litre, 70 PS engine with a high torque of 140 Nm offers the most Price (Ex show room): Indigo Rs. 5.85 lakhs onwards Ex show room Maruti Swift D: 5-STEP MULTI INJECTION * COMPACT 1.3 LITRE DOHC ENGINE * CLASS BEATING TORQUE OF 190 NM AND POWER OF 75 BHP Price (Ex show room): Swift Diesel LDi 4,66,269 Swift Diesel VDi 4,94,795 Tata's really haven't found the winner in this Dicor offering. Yes, torque curve can best give the real picture but apperantly and considering reputation of Tata and Maruti, there isn't a reason to go for Tata unless one really needs a boot as it's not available in Swift. I think that too will be taken care when new Maruti Baleno arrives.
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9th February 2007, 12:06	#12
rkg Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: bangalore Posts: 1,044 Thanked: 594 Times	Well said Nipatel Unless TATA put the 1.3 JTD in their cars there is no way they can retain their leadership position in compact diesels. The more they delay indica with 1.3 JTD the more swift gains. huge amounts of space does not compensate for a inferior engine.
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9th February 2007, 12:28	#14
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,512 Thanked: 300,689 Times View My Garage	I find it pretty surprising that there is no power improvement, atleast not a significant one. To the end buyer, what additional value is he getting by paying the extra $$$. Sure there may be some torque curve difference, but still the difference is not as significant as in other diesel mills. As someone mentioned, Tata could have deliberately restricted the power so they dont have to upgrade the gearbox and transmission.
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9th February 2007, 12:33	#15
tifosikrishna BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: chennai Posts: 827 Thanked: 383 Times View My Garage	I guess dicored indigo will be sold on the premise of better FE figures and refinement levels. Going by Fiesta TDCi acceptance in the market, bhp figures shouldnt be a cause of concern. Regards Tifosi.
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