Team-BHP > BHP India > The Indian Car Scene


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 14th August 2019, 10:14   #1
Senior - BHPian
 
TusharK's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Pune
Posts: 1,660
Thanked: 13,036 Times
Default Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued

Maruti Suzuki is no longer offering the Ertiga with a 1.3-litre diesel engine option.

Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued-ertiga-bs6.jpg

The Fiat-sourced 1.3-litre, 4-cylinder diesel engine is said to be slowly phased out as it won't be upgraded to meet the BS-VI emission norms that will come into effect from April 1, 2020.

The only diesel option now available on the Ertiga is a 1.5-litre, which too is expected to be discontinued before BS-VI norms kick-in. This engine produces 94 BHP @ 4,000 rpm and 225 Nm @ 1,500-2,500 rpm.

In addition to this, the Ertiga will continue to be offered with a BS-VI compliant 1.5-litre, 4-cylinder petrol engine with mild-hybrid technology. It produces 103 BHP @ 6,000 rpm and 138 Nm @ 4,400 rpm. The upcoming Maruti XL6 MPV is also expected to get the same engine.

Link to Team-BHP News
TusharK is offline   (13) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 14th August 2019, 10:21   #2
Senior - BHPian
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: RJ-02,DL,MH-12
Posts: 1,157
Thanked: 1,562 Times
Default Re: Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued

An era coming to an end ! What an engine that FCA offered to we Indians that qualified as the "national engine" for all these years.

I have always loved the trouble free nature and fuel efficiency of this engine. I am at present using one in my Punto (75 hp) and hope to enjoy it for few more years till the Indian laws force me to bid farewell at the end of 10 years of registration.
i74js is offline   (8) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 14th August 2019, 11:01   #3
Distinguished - BHPian
 
paragsachania's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Belur/Bangalore
Posts: 5,610
Thanked: 16,106 Times
Default Re: Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued

Welcome move because having experienced the way 1.5 DDiS performs on the Ertiga as a people mover, I am all for it.

The engine's improved characteristics, both in terms of refinement and driveability aspects make it a perfect fit for the Ertiga now. Not to forget the 6th gear that will make you cruise all day at over triple digit speeds while the engine is at ease, hardly working. It may not be the most powerful engine by similar standards but It does the job very well and you won't really complain in any situation.

The only thing to be seen is the reliability of this engine over long term usage which was the USP of the outgoing 1.3 DDiS.
paragsachania is online now   (15) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 14th August 2019, 11:27   #4
BHPian
 
Sk8r's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2019
Location: Chennai
Posts: 53
Thanked: 62 Times
Default Re: Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued

With the increased price for 1.5 L Diesel variant, will it force buyers to check the M2 Variant of the Marazzo ?
If Mahindra can add Audio system to their M2 Variant, I am sure some of Ertiga's potential buyers will have a look at Marazzo's M2 Variant !

But sad to see the National Engine of India walk into abyss !
Sk8r is offline   (3) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 14th August 2019, 11:34   #5
Senior - BHPian
 
tharian's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: SBC
Posts: 2,841
Thanked: 3,994 Times
Default Re: Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued

Quote:
Originally Posted by TusharK View Post


The only diesel option now available on the Ertiga is a 1.5-litre, which too is expected to be discontinued before BS-VI norms kick-in. This engine produces 94 BHP @ 4,000 rpm and 225 Nm @ 1,500-2,500 rpm.
Isn't this the new engine that is replacing the 1.3? Why will it be discontinued before BS-VI?
tharian is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 14th August 2019, 11:41   #6
Distinguished - BHPian
 
paragsachania's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Belur/Bangalore
Posts: 5,610
Thanked: 16,106 Times
Default Re: Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued

Quote:
Originally Posted by tharian View Post
Isn't this the new engine that is replacing the 1.3? Why will it be discontinued before BS-VI?
Because the Diesel 1.5 is not BS6 compliant while the Petrol one is.

Quote:
Originally Posted by blackwasp View Post
The new diesel is also likely to make its way to the Vitara Brezza and S-Cross. Yes, it will be coming in BS6 form too, although Maruti is likely to miss the April 2020 deadline by 9 - 12 months. A key vendor of Maruti has confirmed to us that BS6 development & compliance are underway.

Last edited by paragsachania : 14th August 2019 at 12:08. Reason: typo
paragsachania is online now   (2) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 14th August 2019, 11:54   #7
Senior - BHPian
 
rajshenoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: bangalore
Posts: 2,207
Thanked: 995 Times
Infractions: 0/1 (5)
Default Re: Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued

While I haven't experienced the new 1.5 diesel yet, I will surely miss this engine which powered 4 cars in the family (Ertiga, SX4, Swift and the Dzire). As someone mentioned, indeed it marks end of an era (In a good way). This engine alone made Maruti such big force in our industry and now it will be very interesting to see how the market dynamics shift in favour of other auto makers
rajshenoy is online now   (2) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 14th August 2019, 13:30   #8
Senior - BHPian
 
humyum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 2,470
Thanked: 2,800 Times
Default Re: Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued

Slowly this will filter down to the lower diesel variants of the Ciaz too then I guess which come with the 1.3 DDIS
humyum is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th August 2019, 14:43   #9
BHPian
 
racer_ash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Hyderabad
Posts: 483
Thanked: 585 Times
Default Re: Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued

So will the Ertiga no longer come with a diesel engine post BS6? I was under the impression that the 1.5D is already BS6 compliant. If it will be discontinued, then why introduce the 1.5D for such a short lifecycle?

Does MS have any other diesel replacing the 1.5D on this and other cars?

Last edited by racer_ash : 14th August 2019 at 14:45.
racer_ash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th August 2019, 16:00   #10
Distinguished - BHPian
 
paragsachania's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Belur/Bangalore
Posts: 5,610
Thanked: 16,106 Times
Default Re: Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued

Quote:
Originally Posted by racer_ash View Post
Does MS have any other diesel replacing the 1.5D on this and other cars?
Please read my post above regarding this query.
paragsachania is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 14th August 2019, 17:44   #11
BHPian
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Pune
Posts: 80
Thanked: 81 Times
Default Re: Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued

My Father had a company Fiat 137D which came with a Diesel Engine. That time Diesel engines were known to be only used on Commercial Vehicles. But test driving and eventually buying the first Generation diesel Swift changed our complete outlook toward Diesel Engines. The next car which we got also had the same engine in a different state of tune (SX4).
adi.mariner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th August 2019, 19:18   #12
BHPian
 
SaiSW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Thrissur
Posts: 132
Thanked: 254 Times
Default Re: Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued

I don't understand. So Maruti spend millions developing a new diesel engine on its own only to discontinue it by 2020?

That seems terribly counterintuitive.
SaiSW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th August 2019, 19:33   #13
Distinguished - BHPian
 
paragsachania's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Belur/Bangalore
Posts: 5,610
Thanked: 16,106 Times
Default Re: Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued

Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiSW View Post
I don't understand. So Maruti spend millions developing a new diesel engine on its own only to discontinue it by 2020?
  • What will discontinue now - 1.3 DDiS
  • What will still be sold - 1.5 DDiS
  • Is 1.5 DDiS Engine BS6 compliant? - No
  • Will 1.5 DDiS Engine ever become BS6 compliant? - Yes, as per sources
Moral of the story - No 1.3 DDiS for now. 1.5 DDiS is the future - Non BS6 complaint now, compliant later.

Last edited by paragsachania : 14th August 2019 at 19:34.
paragsachania is online now   (7) Thanks Reply With Quote
Old 14th August 2019, 19:39   #14
BHPian
 
SaiSW's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Thrissur
Posts: 132
Thanked: 254 Times
Default Re: Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued

Quote:
Originally Posted by paragsachania View Post
  • What will discontinue now - 1.3 DDiS
  • What will still be sold - 1.5 DDiS
  • Is 1.5 DDiS Engine BS6 compliant? - No
  • Will 1.5 DDiS Engine ever become BS6 compliant? - Yes, as per sources
Moral of the story - No 1.3 DDiS for now. 1.5 DDiS is the future - Non BS6 complaint now, compliant later.
Thanks haha. Straight and on to the point.

But Maruti did know that BS6 is going to kick in by 2020, it's not like govt announced it all of a sudden in the midnight like demonetisation.

Couldn't they have implemented BS6 at the start itself?

Last edited by SaiSW : 14th August 2019 at 19:41.
SaiSW is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14th August 2019, 19:56   #15
Distinguished - BHPian
 
volkman10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: --
Posts: 13,871
Thanked: 28,516 Times
Default Re: Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued

Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiSW View Post
Thanks haha. Straight and on to the point.

But Maruti did know that BS6 is going to kick in by 2020, it's not like govt announced it all of a sudden in the midnight like demonetisation.

Couldn't they have implemented BS6 at the start itself?
Maruti Suzuki along with Toyota will play the Hybrid Petrol card as it states they are cost neutral when compared to Diesel.

In BS VI diesel they seem to have a wait and watch policy, based on which the availability of the 1.5L diesel which come. probably in 2021.

They had issues in their BSVI diesel engine development and the introduction has been delayed by couple of years.

Some insights to MS' s plans:

volkman10 is offline   (5) Thanks Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Rebadged Maruti Ertiga launched as Toyota Ertiga in Kenya Shashwat B The International Automotive Scene 4 18th July 2019 17:36
Rumour: Maruti Super Carry diesel variant to be discontinued TusharK Commercial Vehicles 3 29th April 2019 10:10
Rumour: Maruti Ertiga to get 6-seat variant with captain seats TusharK The Indian Car Scene 10 23rd January 2019 22:47
For Taxi: 2012 Chevy Tavera vs Maruti Ertiga vs Chevy Enjoy? EDIT: Bought Ertiga ZDi M35 SUVs, MUVs & 4x4s 21 9th January 2015 06:48


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 23:07.

Copyright 2000 - 2019, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks