Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued

TusharK · 14th August 2019, 10:14

Maruti Suzuki is no longer offering the Ertiga with a 1.3-litre diesel engine option.

Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued-ertiga-bs6.jpg

The Fiat-sourced 1.3-litre, 4-cylinder diesel engine is said to be slowly phased out as it won't be upgraded to meet the BS-VI emission norms that will come into effect from April 1, 2020.

The only diesel option now available on the Ertiga is a 1.5-litre, which too is expected to be discontinued before BS-VI norms kick-in. This engine produces 94 BHP @ 4,000 rpm and 225 Nm @ 1,500-2,500 rpm.

In addition to this, the Ertiga will continue to be offered with a BS-VI compliant 1.5-litre, 4-cylinder petrol engine with mild-hybrid technology. It produces 103 BHP @ 6,000 rpm and 138 Nm @ 4,400 rpm. The upcoming Maruti XL6 MPV is also expected to get the same engine.

Link to Team-BHP News

i74js · 14th August 2019, 10:21

An era coming to an end ! What an engine that FCA offered to we Indians that qualified as the "national engine" for all these years.

I have always loved the trouble free nature and fuel efficiency of this engine. I am at present using one in my Punto (75 hp) and hope to enjoy it for few more years till the Indian laws force me to bid farewell at the end of 10 years of registration.

paragsachania · 14th August 2019, 11:01

Welcome move because having experienced the way 1.5 DDiS performs on the Ertiga as a people mover, I am all for it.

The engine's improved characteristics, both in terms of refinement and driveability aspects make it a perfect fit for the Ertiga now. Not to forget the 6th gear that will make you cruise all day at over triple digit speeds while the engine is at ease, hardly working. It may not be the most powerful engine by similar standards but It does the job very well and you won't really complain in any situation.

The only thing to be seen is the reliability of this engine over long term usage which was the USP of the outgoing 1.3 DDiS.

Sk8r · 14th August 2019, 11:27

With the increased price for 1.5 L Diesel variant, will it force buyers to check the M2 Variant of the Marazzo ?
If Mahindra can add Audio system to their M2 Variant, I am sure some of Ertiga's potential buyers will have a look at Marazzo's M2 Variant !

But sad to see the National Engine of India walk into abyss !

tharian · 14th August 2019, 11:34

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Originally Posted by TusharK

The only diesel option now available on the Ertiga is a 1.5-litre, which too is expected to be discontinued before BS-VI norms kick-in. This engine produces 94 BHP @ 4,000 rpm and 225 Nm @ 1,500-2,500 rpm.

Isn't this the new engine that is replacing the 1.3? Why will it be discontinued before BS-VI?

paragsachania · 14th August 2019, 11:41

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Originally Posted by tharian

Isn't this the new engine that is replacing the 1.3? Why will it be discontinued before BS-VI?

Because the Diesel 1.5 is not BS6 compliant while the Petrol one is.

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Originally Posted by blackwasp

The new diesel is also likely to make its way to the Vitara Brezza and S-Cross. Yes, it will be coming in BS6 form too, although Maruti is likely to miss the April 2020 deadline by 9 - 12 months. A key vendor of Maruti has confirmed to us that BS6 development & compliance are underway.

rajshenoy · 14th August 2019, 11:54

While I haven't experienced the new 1.5 diesel yet, I will surely miss this engine which powered 4 cars in the family (Ertiga, SX4, Swift and the Dzire). As someone mentioned, indeed it marks end of an era (In a good way). This engine alone made Maruti such big force in our industry and now it will be very interesting to see how the market dynamics shift in favour of other auto makers

humyum · 14th August 2019, 13:30

Slowly this will filter down to the lower diesel variants of the Ciaz too then I guess which come with the 1.3 DDIS

racer_ash · 14th August 2019, 14:43

So will the Ertiga no longer come with a diesel engine post BS6? I was under the impression that the 1.5D is already BS6 compliant. If it will be discontinued, then why introduce the 1.5D for such a short lifecycle?

Does MS have any other diesel replacing the 1.5D on this and other cars?

paragsachania · 14th August 2019, 16:00

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Originally Posted by racer_ash

Does MS have any other diesel replacing the 1.5D on this and other cars?

Please read my post above regarding this query.

adi.mariner · 14th August 2019, 17:44

My Father had a company Fiat 137D which came with a Diesel Engine. That time Diesel engines were known to be only used on Commercial Vehicles. But test driving and eventually buying the first Generation diesel Swift changed our complete outlook toward Diesel Engines. The next car which we got also had the same engine in a different state of tune (SX4).

SaiSW · 14th August 2019, 19:18

I don't understand. So Maruti spend millions developing a new diesel engine on its own only to discontinue it by 2020?

That seems terribly counterintuitive.

paragsachania · 14th August 2019, 19:33

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Originally Posted by SaiSW

I don't understand. So Maruti spend millions developing a new diesel engine on its own only to discontinue it by 2020?

What will discontinue now - 1.3 DDiS
What will still be sold - 1.5 DDiS
Is 1.5 DDiS Engine BS6 compliant? - No
Will 1.5 DDiS Engine ever become BS6 compliant? - Yes, as per sources

Moral of the story - No 1.3 DDiS for now. 1.5 DDiS is the future - Non BS6 complaint now, compliant later.

SaiSW · 14th August 2019, 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by paragsachania

What will discontinue now - 1.3 DDiS
What will still be sold - 1.5 DDiS
Is 1.5 DDiS Engine BS6 compliant? - No
Will 1.5 DDiS Engine ever become BS6 compliant? - Yes, as per sources

Moral of the story - No 1.3 DDiS for now. 1.5 DDiS is the future - Non BS6 complaint now, compliant later.

Thanks haha. Straight and on to the point.

But Maruti did know that BS6 is going to kick in by 2020, it's not like govt announced it all of a sudden in the midnight like demonetisation.

Couldn't they have implemented BS6 at the start itself?

volkman10 · 14th August 2019, 19:56

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Originally Posted by SaiSW

Thanks haha. Straight and on to the point.

But Maruti did know that BS6 is going to kick in by 2020, it's not like govt announced it all of a sudden in the midnight like demonetisation.

Couldn't they have implemented BS6 at the start itself?

Maruti Suzuki along with Toyota will play the Hybrid Petrol card as it states they are cost neutral when compared to Diesel.

In BS VI diesel they seem to have a wait and watch policy, based on which the availability of the 1.5L diesel which come. probably in 2021.

They had issues in their BSVI diesel engine development and the introduction has been delayed by couple of years.

Some insights to MS' s plans:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLUr...ature=youtu.be

14th August 2019, 10:14	#1
TusharK Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Pune Posts: 6,250 Thanked: 55,626 Times	Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued Maruti Suzuki is no longer offering the Ertiga with a 1.3-litre diesel engine option. The Fiat-sourced 1.3-litre, 4-cylinder diesel engine is said to be slowly phased out as it won't be upgraded to meet the BS-VI emission norms that will come into effect from April 1, 2020. The only diesel option now available on the Ertiga is a 1.5-litre, which too is expected to be discontinued before BS-VI norms kick-in. This engine produces 94 BHP @ 4,000 rpm and 225 Nm @ 1,500-2,500 rpm. In addition to this, the Ertiga will continue to be offered with a BS-VI compliant 1.5-litre, 4-cylinder petrol engine with mild-hybrid technology. It produces 103 BHP @ 6,000 rpm and 138 Nm @ 4,400 rpm. The upcoming Maruti XL6 MPV is also expected to get the same engine. Link to Team-BHP News
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14th August 2019, 10:21	#2
i74js Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: RJ-02,DL,MH-12 Posts: 1,331 Thanked: 2,180 Times	Re: Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued An era coming to an end ! What an engine that FCA offered to we Indians that qualified as the "national engine" for all these years. I have always loved the trouble free nature and fuel efficiency of this engine. I am at present using one in my Punto (75 hp) and hope to enjoy it for few more years till the Indian laws force me to bid farewell at the end of 10 years of registration.
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paragsachania Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Belur/Bangalore Posts: 7,148 Thanked: 27,140 Times	Re: Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued Welcome move because having experienced the way 1.5 DDiS performs on the Ertiga as a people mover, I am all for it. The engine's improved characteristics, both in terms of refinement and driveability aspects make it a perfect fit for the Ertiga now. Not to forget the 6th gear that will make you cruise all day at over triple digit speeds while the engine is at ease, hardly working. It may not be the most powerful engine by similar standards but It does the job very well and you won't really complain in any situation. The only thing to be seen is the reliability of this engine over long term usage which was the USP of the outgoing 1.3 DDiS.
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14th August 2019, 11:27	#4
Sk8r BHPian Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Chennai Posts: 461 Thanked: 2,164 Times	Re: Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued With the increased price for 1.5 L Diesel variant, will it force buyers to check the M2 Variant of the Marazzo ? If Mahindra can add Audio system to their M2 Variant, I am sure some of Ertiga's potential buyers will have a look at Marazzo's M2 Variant ! But sad to see the National Engine of India walk into abyss !
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14th August 2019, 11:54	#7
rajshenoy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 2,884 Thanked: 2,229 Times View My Garage	Re: Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued While I haven't experienced the new 1.5 diesel yet, I will surely miss this engine which powered 4 cars in the family (Ertiga, SX4, Swift and the Dzire). As someone mentioned, indeed it marks end of an era (In a good way). This engine alone made Maruti such big force in our industry and now it will be very interesting to see how the market dynamics shift in favour of other auto makers
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14th August 2019, 13:30	#8
humyum Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,750 Thanked: 5,422 Times	Re: Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued Slowly this will filter down to the lower diesel variants of the Ciaz too then I guess which come with the 1.3 DDIS
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racer_ash BHPian Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 592 Thanked: 1,380 Times	Re: Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued So will the Ertiga no longer come with a diesel engine post BS6? I was under the impression that the 1.5D is already BS6 compliant. If it will be discontinued, then why introduce the 1.5D for such a short lifecycle? Does MS have any other diesel replacing the 1.5D on this and other cars? Last edited by racer_ash : 14th August 2019 at 14:45.
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adi.mariner BHPian Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Pune Posts: 524 Thanked: 1,289 Times	Re: Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued My Father had a company Fiat 137D which came with a Diesel Engine. That time Diesel engines were known to be only used on Commercial Vehicles. But test driving and eventually buying the first Generation diesel Swift changed our complete outlook toward Diesel Engines. The next car which we got also had the same engine in a different state of tune (SX4).
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SaiSW BHPian Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Good Blue Earth Posts: 671 Thanked: 1,523 Times	Re: Maruti Ertiga's 1.3L diesel variant discontinued I don't understand. So Maruti spend millions developing a new diesel engine on its own only to discontinue it by 2020? That seems terribly counterintuitive.
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