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Old 9th October 2022, 18:57   #2686
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FE of 23 kmpl

Here is the maximum FE I have achieved so far, 23 kmpl for 49 kms(photo attached). It includes the 5 kms I needed to get out of town and on the 4-lane. Next time I will reset on the highway and try to get more!

The total drive of 202 kms I did today got me 19.6 kmpl, which included crowded towns, so I am congratulating myself!
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Old 9th October 2022, 21:59   #2687
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Here is the maximum FE I have achieved so far
Hereís my max FE feat so far, achieved during an overnight drive from Bangalore to Madurai (with 3 adults and their weekend baggage onboard) few months back.

~22kmpl for >400kms!!

PS: This is the Petrol CVT variant, run almost 25k kms in 11 months of ownership.

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Re: The 5th-gen Honda City in India. EDIT: Review on page 62

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Has anyone purchased/installed the RS kit? Or at least the rear spoiler and diffuser found on ehev model? Ever since ehev was introduced, Iíve been wanting to get the same rear look for my City ivtec but Honda service centres canít procure them for non ehev vehicles. Apparently, those parts are imported and can only be ordered against ehev vehicles.
I would suggest vinyl wrapping that chrome slab with gloss/matte black, and affixing a red RS logo bought outside. You'll be halfway done with the RS kit.
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Old 10th October 2022, 10:39   #2689
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Re: The 5th-gen Honda City in India. EDIT: Review on page 62

Does the digital display to the left of the odometer, have an option to show the overall (since inception) FE? Right now, I have to use the trip meter (A or B) for this. This also means that one of the 2 meters can't be reset if I want to see the overall FE going forward.
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Re: The 5th-gen Honda City in India. EDIT: Review on page 62

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Does the digital display to the left of the odometer, have an option to show the overall (since inception) FE? Right now, I have to use the trip meter (A or B) for this. This also means that one of the 2 meters can't be reset if I want to see the overall FE going forward.
As far as I have checked, there is no option to show overall FE. I have been using Trip A and Fuelio for that purpose. I also see Honda Connect App having similar fuel log but haven't tried it.
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Old 10th October 2022, 12:55   #2691
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Re: The 5th-gen Honda City in India. EDIT: Review on page 62

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As far as I have checked, there is no option to show overall FE. I have been using Trip A and Fuelio for that purpose. I also see Honda Connect App having similar fuel log but haven't tried it.

There isnít a way. I have just left one of the trip meters without resetting it. That shows an overall indication of the FE since purchase.
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Old 10th October 2022, 19:14   #2692
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What is the reason Honda removed rain sensing wipers or automatic wipers in 5th generation city, I saw some video yesterday on YouTube of 4th generation city with automatic wipers. I am wondering is it cost cutting measure or just Honda felt it is unnecessary or infamous chip shortage issue.

Here is the link
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Bid farewell to my 5th Gen Petrol MT city of 2020. I was badly affected by severe battery issues and used to call RSA almost 10 times just to jump-start the car even after just 7 days of idle time in the presence of my neighbour, and believe me, it's painful having such a premium car. After writing to Honda corporate, I finally got a new battery as a replacement and this resolved this issue. But till that time, I was frightened enough about this issue and was forced to start the engine every 3rd day and not even go for a drive. Adding to it, the puny tyre got punctured 5 times and that was enough for me to sell the car. No doubt, the engine was awesome, but Honda missed to make it balance i.e. loss of pick up in initial gears. I am wondering about the way my ownership of the car ended within 2 years. This is my opinion and story. No offence to anything anyone. Thanks.

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Old 11th October 2022, 08:31   #2694
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I was badly affected by severe battery issues and used to call RSA almost 10 times just to jump-start the car even after just 7 days of idl3. After writing to Honda corporate, I finally got a new battery as a replacement and this resolved this issue. Adding to it, the puny tyre got punctured 5 times and that was enough for me to sell the car. No doubt, the engine was awesome, but Honda missed to make it balance i.e. loss of pick up in initial gears. I am wondering about the way my ownership of the car ended within 2 years.
Often times it is the smallest of straws that breaks the camel's back and it seems in your case it was Honda service attitude towards replacing faulty battery.
Please give some details that why did you have to involve Honda corporate to get a faulty battery replaced.
Both battery and tyres reflect poor OEM choices made by Honda in these two departments but these two parts alone should not be the reasons to reject a whole car.
I understand that you were not happy with the driving experience of the car so please give your experience in this regard in some details.
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Old 11th October 2022, 14:12   #2695
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Re: The 5th-gen Honda City in India. EDIT: Review on page 62

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What is the reason Honda removed rain sensing wipers or automatic wipers in 5th generation city, I saw some video yesterday on YouTube of 4th generation city with automatic wipers. I am wondering is it cost cutting measure or just Honda felt it is unnecessary or infamous chip shortage issue.

Here is the link
https://Youtu.be/uiJGCkSeU0w
I don't think anyone can answer for sure, I would rule out chip shortage as they launched (or was supposed to) around March-April 2020 so procurement might already be completed or underway for the first batch pre covid shutdown / shortage.
If it was indeed cost cutting then they would have probably saved more on the spare alloy ?

On a personal note, I'm not too bothered about it as I've heard mixed reviews about the performance of auto wipers but yeah if there's a DIY retrofit available would definitely go for it to try it for myself.
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Old 11th October 2022, 20:59   #2696
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Dilemma: Honda City: 4th Gen V vs 5th Gen V vs 5th Gen ZX

A query from a friend. Seeking valuable info from fellow BHPians.

He needs a car which should satisfy following criteria:

- Ever ready to go on just a push of a button, be it city or highway commutes as and when needed. (Fuss-free)
- Long term mechanical reliability.
- Easy maintenance in relation to usage by more than one person including chauffeur. In short, no need for special care if not driven single handedly.
- If not the best but satisfactory ground clearance.
- Not preferring Diesel as he already owns one and also due to DPF issues
- No CSUVs

Shortlisted ones:

- 4th Gen Honda City V (Manual by default)
- 5th Gen Honda City V (Manual)
- 5th Gen Honda City ZX (Manual)

* 5th Gen VX was omitted as it offers least price value.


Explanation:

- Why 4th Gen V ?
Catchy looks.
Price value.

- Why 5th Gen V ?
Fresh and upgraded platform at a premium of 1.80L.
Adequately loaded base variant.
Dilemma that 4th Gen is going to get discontinued by Dec and current last batches are prone to cost cutting as 5th Gen is given importance.

- Why 5th Gen ZX
LED headlights change the whole look of the car, feels much more premium than lower variants which at some angles resemble Amaze from front unlike the top end ZX.

P.S.:

He's keeping in mind future EV era as well. We get to see automobile brands already showcasing their future EV portfolio. Due to which, currently, he wants to spend on a product which is reliable for everyday usage yet not getting sort of obsolete or depreciate to extreme level even if reliable EVs are given primary importance by govt/automobile brands in near future.

Long story short, he's in a dilemma if spending close to 16L on 5th Gen ZX is worth the price value keeping in view Future EV era or should focus on 4th Gen top end V at 11.30L or 5th Gen Base V at 13L ?!

Thanks.

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Old 11th October 2022, 21:20   #2697
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Re: Dilemma: Honda City: 4th Gen V vs 5th Gen V vs 5th Gen ZX

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He needs a car which should satisfy following criteria:

- Ever ready to go on just a push of a button, be it city or highway commutes as and when needed. (Fuss-free)
- Long term mechanical reliability.
- Easy maintenance in relation to usage by more than one person including chauffeur. In short, no need for special care if not driven single handedly.
- If not the best but satisfactory ground clearance.
- Not preferring Diesel as he already owns one and also due to DPF issues
- No CSUVs

Long story short, he's in a dilemma if spending close to 16L on 5th Gen ZX is worth the price value keeping in view Future EV era or should focus on 4th Gen top end V or 5th Gen Base V ?!

Thanks.
After many years of reliable ownership and reading reports, I personally believe that Honda products are pretty reliable. I have a '21 ZX CVT as well as a '05 GXi which has run 130k kms (with absolutely 0 mechanical issues over the last 17.5 years). All cars can have problems, but the probability of a Honda going bad and leaving you stranded is still very low.

As far as your requirements go, I think the 5th Gen ZX would be the way to go. It has a decent suspension setup which offers good ride quality on bad roads. The LED headlamps and the leather seats are good-to-have features. Although the N/A petrol lacks the torque of a turbocharged counterpart, it makes up for that with a very smooth drive and returns excellent FE on highways. I would suggest the CVT for the stress free drive if your friend doesn't mind stretching his budget a bit. The ≈₹1.5L premium is totally worth it.

PS - Do note that the stock tyres are very poor. An upgrade to 205/55/R16 will make the ride and NVH a bit better. A tyre upgrade should be the first upgrade on this car.

Hope your friend enjoys his new ride !
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Old 11th October 2022, 21:52   #2698
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Re: The 5th-gen Honda City in India. EDIT: Review on page 62

A bit late to post here but i got the delivery of VX CVT on Sep 30th.
I had booked the car on Sep 15th and got delivery on Sep 30th. I had expected at least a month time and had to order car related accessories in a rush. In the end, got the car first before amazon could deliver items

Delivery was a pretty standard affair with box of chocolates and puja. A bit of surprise where they had done under body coating as complementary. Just left my old car, signed few documents and came out with new car. One of the few times where the process went very smooth from booking till delivery.

Add-ons/Accessories:
  • Utility package
  • Side step illumination
  • Window visors
  • Auto furnish mats - Ordered Sep 19th and delivered Oct 10th - I am guessing delay was due to holidays but it was excruciating to get in the car without mats.
  • Tyre upgrade - 195 Conti UC6 - Paid 22k for 4 tyres after exchange
To do:
  • Dash cam
  • UV Film
  • Silencer coating and rat coating if possible
  • Sound proofing - This will probably be after a year or two.
Overall car is fantastic and CVT is a blessing. Odo is only at 200KMS so far. Will probably comment after a long drive planned next month.
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Old 13th October 2022, 02:07   #2699
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Re: The 5th-gen Honda City in India. EDIT: Review on page 62

Previously I used to be vehemently against the idea of owing a car. Whenever a friend thought of buying a car, I used to give argument as how traveling by OLA/UBER is lot more cost efficient than buying a car because of depreciation etc. Ofcourse they did not listen to me. After all who values free advice?
Then came year 2020. Because of the pandemic everything was closed. I was having ample amount of free time for the first since after I started working. Mainly because I did not have to travel to Noida from Gurgaon and back by metro and thus saving three and a half hour every day. During this free time I decided to acquire a new toy, a car.
The first question was which car to go for. In my mind there were only two options: Honda City or Tata Safari (the old one).

You might think what kind of choices are these. Two cars which are poles apart in everything. Let me give you my reasoning. I did not need a car at that time nor I do right now. After years of traveling by Delhi Metro I had developed my skills of finding the empty seat in the metro (if someone uses the same mode of transport and wants to increase his chances of getting a seat even during the peak hours, I can give few tips and no it does not involve outrunning and overpowering fellow commuters). So the car was going to be just a toy. As Tata had stopped manufacturing the Safari only one contender was left. Although I checked out the other cars in the same price range, none struck the chord as City did. Bought City 5th gen VMT in August 2020.

Currently the odometer stands at 64391 km. And most of these are from the joyrides that I go for almost daily. In the early mornings when roads are empty I connect my phone to the head unit and play old Hindi songs. After traveling for 4-5 km I switch off the music and turn up the sound of exhaust by lowering the gear and enjoy the nirvana for the duration of the trip.

City has also been to the mountains of Himanchal and Uttarakhand numerous times. The curvy hill roads are the best places to enjoy its little engine and sweet exhaust note. My favourite road to drive this car are Rishikesh to Badrinath highway and Shimla to Nako (Karcham dam to Nako village is surreal experience).
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I have a hypothetical question. This might have been answered before here, not sure. If so, please link me back to that.

At almost a similar price point, does it really make practical sense to go for a ZX MT over a VX CVT?

By all accounts, CVT is a boon in traffic, which is where the car might mostly be used, at least in my case. But the MT is not so difficult to drive either - no hard clutches, no clunky gear lever, travel is reasonable and not long, left foot is not troubled too much.
Am neutral over the Halogen vs LED lights - but somehow feel that long-term, the VX might be easier/cheaper to upgrade the lights in, as compared to the ZX.
Am used to both fabric and leatherette seats - and quite unbothered about both. I think both would last really long, with the regular halfyearly TLC.
Lane watch camera is meh, not sure if I'd ever use it. Same with the sunroof, but that's common across both variants.

So I'm still wondering whether ZX MT is a reasonable upgrade, or if the VX CVT has all the actually required bells and whistles, with the CVT being the USP?

Any thoughts from VX CVT owners as to why you had decided on that variant, as opposed to ZX MT?

This all came up because I read somewhere a few posts above that the VX variant was not value for money. So i was thinking why so?
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