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Old 7th June 2008, 14:07   #31
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The Prius is ugly duckling strictly IMHO. As the diesel/CNG mileage is around same, it is premium product for pseudo-environmentalist (read politicians, actors). Thus the efficiency in terms of FE and green credential is lost when seen in our context.

See the link (comparison Prius Vs BMW520d)


Toyota Prius proves a gas guzzler in a race with the BMW 520d review | Used Car Reviews | Driving - Times Online

Even in UK, Avensis sells much more, IMO it is bit early in a day to expolore hybrid route for foreign mode (CBU, CKD) cars & the products like Avensis makes more sense for India.
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Old 5th August 2008, 10:25   #32
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Toyota Prius .. coming to India

This is there in today's Economic times:

Toyota to launch hybrid sedan in India

BANGALORE: Global auto major Toyota Motor Corp plans to introduce its hybrid sedan Prius in India as an answer to soaring fuel prices and growing concerns over emissions, a top official at its Indian joint venture said.

"We are preparing to bring Prius into the Indian market though we have not set any timeline yet," Toyota Kirloskar Motor Ltd vice-chairman Vikram Kirloskar told in an interview.

"In the run-up, we have to develop skills to service it and make spare parts available across the country," he added.
The 2008 version of Prius has been adjudged the most fuel-efficient midsize car in the US. Sold in over 40 countries across regions, the hybrid variant has also been rated as the third least carbon dioxide emitting vehicle in Britain.
Kirloskar described Prius as a "great car but admitted it was "expensive upfront".

"In the long-run, it is economical, with higher mileage and lower maintenance cost. We are confident of its acceptability in the Indian market as it runs both on electricity and fuel."

Positioned between Toyota's Corolla and Camry in the luxury segment, Prius uses an all-electric compressor for cooling. Classified as a super ultra low emission vehicle, the eco-friendly car can be propelled by either petrol and electric power.

"We are aware that Honda is launching its hybrid variant in the Indian market soon despite high import tariff. We can also do it with due preparation. As I said earlier, we have to gear up to service such a premium car by training our personnel and stocking enough spare parts with the dealer network," Kirloskar said.

As the first commercially mass-produced gas-electric hybrid, one million Prius vehicles were sold by April worldwide, including 592,000 units in the US and 315,000 units in Japan.

In India, Toyota Kirloskar already markets Corolla and Camry in the premium segment, besides Innova in the multi-utility and Prado in the sports utility segments.

Corolla and Innova are manufactured at its Bidadi plant, about 40km from India's technology hub of Bangalore, while Camry and Prado are shipped from Toyota's production facilities in Japan in completely knocked down form and assembled here.

"Though we entered the Indian market over a decade ago, we chose to be in niche and premium segments. As a marketing strategy, we first introduced Qualis, which was a run-away success in the multi-utility segment," Kirloskar said.
"We launched Innova by discontinuing Qualis and yet maintained market leadership in the segment. In the second-hand or used car market, Toyota brands commands highest price even today because of their value and durability," he said.

Denying that Toyota "missed the bus" or lost market space to global rivals such as Honda, Hyundai, Suzuki, Ford and General Motors by not being present across segments in India, especially in the dominant compact segment, Kirloskar said there was enough room to grow in a developing country where the automobile industry was maturing.

In the passenger car segment, the combined installed capacity of Indian automobile sector is about two mn as against Toyota's annual worldwide capacity of 10 mn units.

"With the Indian economy poised to grow over eight-nine percent, we see immense potential to grow, thanks to increasing purchasing power, higher aspirations among the generation next, better road connectivity and migrant-driven urbanization," Kirloskar said.

Toyota Kirloskar is setting up a second plant with an upfront investment of Rs 14 bn ($329 mn) at Bidadi to manufacture a range of models, including its long-awaited compact car to take on dominant players like Maruti Suzuki, Hyundai and Tata Motors.

With an installed capacity of 100,000 units per annum, the new modular multi-platform plant is set to commence production in 2010.

The small car will be different from Toyota's existing models in the same segment, as it is being designed exclusively for the Indian market, Kirloskar said.

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Positioned between Toyota's Corolla and Camry in the luxury segment, Prius uses an all-electric compressor for cooling. Classified as a super ultra low emission vehicle, the eco-friendly car can be propelled by either petrol and electric power.
Now will the Pruis be positioned between Corolla and Camry in India ?
This means that Toyota is not planning to manufacture Camry in India any time soon.

But we can consider this as good news if the car is placed between Corolla and Camry. It will be more affordable that Civic Hybrid and will make more sense as a second car for city driving.
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But we can consider this as good news if the car is placed between Corolla and Camry. It will be more affordable that Civic Hybrid and will make more sense as a second car for city driving.
Yes I feel so. Positioning in this section means that the pricing would be in the range of 12 - 14 lakhs which is definitely much cheaper and looks more attractive than the Civic Hybrid. Maybe Honda will be ready with their answer by then.
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Great - just what we need. Another 23 lakh car sold by snotty salesmen.
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No way they are going to sell the Prius for 12 lakhs. It would be at a similar price range as the Hybrid. Agree with theMAG on that.
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As the statement says `We are preparing to bring Prius into the Indian market though we have not set any timeline yet'.

This could be anytime from tomorrow to another decade. If you read the statement, that seems to be made to get headlines for the paper rather than any serious intent on the part of Toyota. I think we see too many speculative statements in the press.
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Positioned between Toyota's Corolla and Camry in the luxury segment
Really, Mr. Kirloskar? The Prius is priced on par with the Camry range in the US. Camry sells for between $19,000 and $25,000. The Prius is $21,000 to 23,400. If it comes to India as a CBU we can easily expect it to cost as much as the Camry, if not more.

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This could be anytime from tomorrow to another decade. If you read the statement, that seems to be made to get headlines for the paper rather than any serious intent on the part of Toyota. I think we see too many speculative statements in the press.
I agree with you about Toyota. Going by their past record, that could mean anything. But why shoot the messenger? The paper carried what it was told. It's not their place to second guess what Kirloskar is saying.

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Just got of from the phone from a reliable toyota source prius will be available from sep 6th and it will be priced between 14 to 16 lakhs.
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Just got of from the phone from a reliable toyota source prius will be available from sep 6th and it will be priced between 14 to 16 lakhs.
Really? I feel its a good price considering the fuel price. Lets wait and watch.
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Just got of from the phone from a reliable toyota source prius will be available from sep 6th and it will be priced between 14 to 16 lakhs.
Make sure he wasn't talking about the new Corolla. Its coming out in 1 week of Sept.
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nice, I was thinking about gifting my cousin car, didn't wanted to give any gas guzzlers, whats the price range gonna be? like double the US market value? I bought mine '08 version in US for $23k so I assume price going to be double of that, Hoping that its not *fingers crossed*

are there any other hybrids available in market? I was assuming Tata OneCat was gonna release this summer as well, but no news on it yet.
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nice, I was thinking about gifting my cousin car, didn't wanted to give any gas guzzlers, whats the price range gonna be? like double the US market value? I bought mine '08 version in US for $23k so I assume price going to be double of that, Hoping that its not *fingers crossed*

are there any other hybrids available in market? I was assuming Tata OneCat was gonna release this summer as well, but no news on it yet.
Hybrid Civic is available but at 21+ lacs.
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Let Toyota release the Corolla first. The car is old news in Pakistan already. Check out the Indus Toyota website. KirloskarToyota keep talking about a lot of models, but we've seen nothing.Rot!.

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Its official! Toyota will be unveiling its Prius hybrid for sale in India at the 2010 Auto Expo in Delhi next January. Speaking to ZigWheels.com on the sidelines of the 41st Tokyo Motor Show, Kazuo Okamoto, vice chairman of the Toyota Motor Corporation, informed that the Prius will mark a gradual ramp up for Toyota in India. The Prius is the world's best known and also best selling hybrid passenger car and the version Toyota intends to sell in the country would be the latest generation model which was launched as recently as May 2009 in Japan and has also been a raging hit in this eco-conscious motoring mad nation.

Toyota Gets Ready to Shift to A Higher Gear- News- Zigwheels
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