![]() | #76 |
BANNED | ![]() Gravitas - it connotates a certain 'weight' and 'seriousness' and 'authority' in demeanour. Buzzard - this is a bird commonly found in America and is similar to the Vulture. It is a carrion eater. And this is to me, as stupid a name as possible for a car. Frankly neither Gravitas nor Buzzard are suitable names for cars. |
![]() | ![]() |
|
![]() | #77 | |
Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Gurgaon
Posts: 5,337
Thanked: 16,767 Times
| ![]() Quote:
![]() Honestly, I feel the SAFARI moniker deserves a comeback. This could have been a great opportunity to discontinue the aging the Safari Storme and get a proper BSVI 7-seater SUV called Safari instead. ![]() | |
![]() | ![]() |
![]() | #78 |
Senior - BHPian ![]() Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: bangalore
Posts: 1,307
Thanked: 3,009 Times
| ![]() So about 8 years after XUV5OO launch, Tata finally has a 7 seat crossover. It's just that they should think through and not benchmark it against the current XUV as it's due for a full revamp. |
![]() | ![]() |
![]() | #79 |
BHPian ![]() | ![]() My thoughts.
|
![]() | ![]() |
![]() | #80 | |
Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Quote:
![]() Last edited by tushky : 27th November 2019 at 13:23. | |
![]() | ![]() |
![]() | #81 | |
Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() Quote:
(I remember the old ARIA launch ads where they showed a car & SUV coming together to create a "crossover" ARIA.) Last edited by Reinhard : 27th November 2019 at 13:26. | |
![]() | ![]() |
![]() | #82 |
BHPian Join Date: Aug 2019 Location: bangalore
Posts: 58
Thanked: 155 Times
| ![]() What was wrong with Harrier 7 Seater itself. It is a Harrier with 7 seats! When it comes to naming a product, I have seen lot of failures by marketing dept in India. Some where, some how people think, Spanish or non English sounding names have some premium or elite nature into it. God knows! I have seen some of the names of apartment complex in Bangalore. Sounds Spanish and you will not see one spanish soul inside. All people living inside are all Indians yet some how, marketing people put a name, foreign, difficult to pronounce and difficult to spell. And that's supposed to be elite! Regarding names, I always felt this..People want to name to be EASY to pronounce, EASY to remember, Does not associate with a bad or negative of any thing and CATCHY if possible and NOT TOO LONG. Worst names in my understanding regarding auto industry in India. Stallio motorcycle by Mahindra.. Stall means danger and immediate loss of lift power in aviation field ( I am a trainee pilot, with experience in Cessna 172) Zica Now Tiago (Name of a virus) XUV300, KUV100.... Too many words to pronounce.. X300 would have been better than X U V 3 0 0... is it 3 hundred or three oh oh.. what ever. Ford has a great product F-150. Four letter, Period. Alturas, Gravitas, please donot use AS in the last. Always sounds plural or verbal WAS or as in ASS. Ass is a bad word in american culture. MAGIC IRIS (tata product) S PRESSO, or expresso? x presso , espresso, exo presso.. Don't know who comes up with these names or how it gets approved, but that's the talent we have.. Here is Morgan Freeman talking about great movie with terrible title.. |
![]() | ![]() |
![]() | #83 | |
BHPian Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Pune
Posts: 546
Thanked: 3,468 Times
| ![]() Quote:
1. Completely agree with you regarding the name. I also don't like any of the three names for H7X. Because Tata are known to give nice sounding and easy to pronounce names to its products but the Harrier and the Gravitas are not to my liking. I knew that Tata were going to call the H7X the Gravitas since a couple of months but it was still not finalized so did not reveal it here on Tbhp. 2. A Hyundai sourced TC is coming right from launch itself. 3. M&M is going to launch the next gen XUV 500 in the 2nd quarter of next year so we don't yet know the prices for that car. So Tata cannot benchmark the Gravitas's pricing against the XUV 500. 4. Being a Hexa owner myself and having driven the BS6 auto Gravitas, I definitely don't think that even a single Hexa customer can be converted to the Gravitas. Heck I am quite sure that once Hexa BS6 comes out, some of the Gravitas/Harrier customers will surely be converted to the Hexa. 5. Regarding the blue colour which they had showcased at the Geneva, I had given my feedback to my sources regarding change of colour for Indian media cars. Most likely Tata will change it. Will let you know once I gather intel regarding the Gravitas's media event which is scheduled for post Auto Expo 2020. | |
![]() | ![]() |
|
![]() | #84 | |
BHPian Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Bangalore
Posts: 202
Thanked: 469 Times
| ![]() Quote:
Also, would you say that it rides similar to the Harrier? | |
![]() |
![]() | #85 | |
BHPian Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Pune
Posts: 546
Thanked: 3,468 Times
| ![]() Quote:
![]() As far as the Gravitas is concerned all I can tell you is that I managed to take her out for a short spin may be 4-5 kms not more than that in city traffic. That mule was an auto with the BS6 170 hp engine. The gearbox felt pretty good as far as the shift quality is concerned. Also I am more of a manual guy so cannot compare the behaviour of the TC against any benchmark. The engine also felt pretty damn powerful. That particular prototype had bench seat in the middle. But optional captains chairs are coming. The ride quality felt similar to the Harrier at least from the driver's seat. That means it will be better than the outside competition but a shade below the in house competition if you know what I mean. 3rd row seating is compromised compared to the Hexa so its a 5+2 Harrier at best. Rest is going to be the same as the Harrier apart from larger wheels and addition of rear disc brakes. | |
![]() | ![]() |
![]() | #86 |
BHPian ![]() | ![]() Gravitas seems to be a silly name. I can just imagine all the poor chauffeurs trying to say it. Why couldn't they just go with Harrier-XL Keep it simple Tata! |
![]() | ![]() |
![]() | #87 | |
BHPian Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Pune
Posts: 427
Thanked: 734 Times
| ![]() Quote:
On the topic of names, will we ever see any car named in an Indian language? Also, anyone knows what the infinite supply of variant names actually means? Hyundai keeps variants like S, SX, SX+, SX(O). Why so much complexity? And what does 'optional' mean? Are all other variants compulsory? Maruti names diesels as LDI, VDI. I think the D stands for Diesel. But then petrol counterparts are not named LPI, VPI. Can someone decipher this madness? Mod Note: Please use the EDIT or MULTI-QUOTE buttons instead of typing one post after another on the SAME THREAD! To know how to multi-quote, click here. We advise you to read the Forum Rules before proceeding any further. Last edited by vb-san : 29th November 2019 at 12:57. Reason: Please see the Mod Note above, thank you! | |
![]() | ![]() |
![]() | #88 |
BHPian Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Pune
Posts: 546
Thanked: 3,468 Times
| ![]() As far as looks are concerned, the Harrier looks better than the Gravitas. Hexa has kind of crossoverish looks but doesn't look bad at all especially with those 19 inch wheels. And people who value outright comfort and ruggedness more than looks and gizmos will go for the Hexa is all I am saying. And I am definitely one of them as are a lot of fellow bhpians. |
![]() | ![]() |
![]() | #89 |
Senior - BHPian | ![]() Test mule is an Auto.... ![]() Good to see TATA's moving towards Automatics, hope they will provide the same in Harrier. |
![]() | ![]() |
![]() | #90 |
BHPian ![]() Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Big-B
Posts: 515
Thanked: 1,285 Times
| ![]() So, the diesel auto box combo was being reserved for this, all along? If so, then it wasn't a very wise move by TAMO. The Harrier could've seen more sales figures. P.S- the Harrier doesn't have an automatic transmission. Last edited by TheHelix0202 : 27th November 2019 at 19:05. |
![]() |