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| ![]() 7. Independent rear suspension Last edited by Guna : 29th November 2019 at 18:10. |
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| ![]() Hello bhpians. Some new information regarding the Gravitas/Harrier I would like to share with you. 1. A panoramic sunroof is not coming in the Gravitas due to the stepped roof. 2. 99% an electronic parking brake will be available at launch. 3. Media drives are scheduled for around 20th February 2020. 4. Media cars will most likely sport a blue shade which is different from what we saw at the Geneva. 5. The interiors of the Gravitas will sport a grey shade which will differentiate it from that of the Harrier. Tata calls it internally as the "Lalitpur Grey". 6. Harrier with panoramic sunroof and automatic gearbox will be launched shortly after the launch of the Gravitas. |
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![]() I for one am a bit annoyed that they cite engineering problems for which solutions exist and it seems to me that they are trying to make an attempt with bling like Hyundai and MG while not quite acing it and compromising their traditional strengths leaving us with something in between which neither feels value enough nor feels premium enough in terms of bling features and also ups the chances of niggles. I wonder if they will end up with very few of the gizmos crowd and erode their traditional customer base too. I have waited for a Safari replacement for 4 years now. The Hexa seemed sensible but was not satisfying to the heart. Will wait for the Gravitas but looking at what I am seeing of the new XUV I am tempted to jump ship. | |
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| ![]() Sunroofs are rather expensive components. Putting 2 of them may be acceptable at JLR pricepoints but for the semi premium segment it may actually reduce the operating profits. |
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| ![]() What makes a sunroof so desirable in India? Honda city puts one on the VX variant, but skips 6 airbags. You need to go to the ZX variant for that. Do more people prefer a sunroof over 4 extra airbags? I don't know how much both cost, but assuming that their costs are comparable. |
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Its similar to the pub discussions that supercars owners have on the acceleration times of their steeds. Like my car does the 0-100 run in 3 seconds and your does it in 3.1 seconds. Thats it | |
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| ![]() I.saw.one near Taj Blue Diamond in pune 30mins ago. It looks little or no bigger than XUV500 to me. I peeped in and again the interior seemed ok - grey like Ram said. Didn't get too long to find any other detail. Again like Ram said, the last row seemed cramped, so this is no MUV kind of space. Resemblance to Harrier is prominent and it may or may not be a good thing depending on one's opinion. To me, it is not a good thing given that Harrier isn't really flying off the shelves. Oh and the alloys looked okayish..nothing like what the Seltos gets. Last edited by Nilesh5417 : 30th November 2019 at 15:08. |
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| ![]() The rear seems Ertiga-ish to me, too much like that of a minivan. IMO Tata should launch the Harrier with Auto, Pano sunroof, Electronic parking brakes and reduced-size Rear view mirrors first, to redeem itself and reclaim lost ground. One of the most promising SUVs that lost the battle only due to lack of auto and a few other minor features plus lack of perceived quality due to rushing in without sorting out the niggles. Once these items are fixed and Harrier is re-launched as a facelift, it would allow Tata to truly tap the potential of this “land rover at a third of the price” vehicle. Instead of focusing energies on this, launching another half-baked model is not going to help. The volumes are just not there in the three-row segment outside of the Innova. |
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| ![]() Tata Gravitas Petrol Expected In 2020 Alongside Harrier. A new 1.6-litre petrol engine with direct injection is being developed by the Indian carmaker. Also DCT automatic transmission is under development which is expected to replace torque converter ATs in the later stages. Quote:
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![]() Some of us here have been and will be accused of Tata bashing. But personally, its just that we had high expectations especially after the example creta and xuv and up to some extent the Compass set in this segment. Adding fuel to the fire was Tata going on talking about turnaround etc. Only say the safety factor of the Harrier may be claimed to be bulletproof (lets not forget we don't have crash test results in our hands like the nexon) Other than that we have an incomplete feature list, QC issues, no auto, no 5 year OEM warranty, no 4x4 (the real LR pedigree. Credit to FCA with the Jeep Compass on that front, with 4x4 available at launch). And the okayish Tata sales experience. For some reason they thought that the design only will make it sell like hot cakes. As I said earlier, Hexa came and the Safari got the step-brotherly treatment. Now the same will happen to the Hexa after the arrival of the Gravitas. The fact that the Hexa won't be available post March 2020 till September says a lot. Can we imagine how Maruti or Hyundai would have milked the hell out of something like the Safari brand? Look how much the Xuv and Scorpio sell even today. If all you want to make is Cult Cars, and be happy with Youtube comment section fanboys commending build quality and cursing the Innova, selling under 1000 units a month, be my guest. But if you want to make your investors happy, will such stunts work? Sorry for the rant. But its just that we want to see Tata succeed, and they keep shooting themselves in the foot. Last edited by TROOPER : 30th November 2019 at 16:42. | |
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First, its steel not iron. Lets ignore the ignorance and move to next one. Only larger land rover have aluminum, OMEGA ARC uses a steel monocoque just like Land Rover’s D8. D8 is JLR’s steel-based platform and underpins cars like the Evoque, Discovery Sport and the Jaguar E-Pace. Another interesting fact is that the steel used in the construction of both Discovery Sport and Harrier is provided by Tata Steel. BTW, omegarc is capable of 4x4. The platform is not only ready for an all-wheel-drivetrain, but can also be configured with a battery pack in the floor bed for an electrified powertrain. Moreover, same taxi engine is found in bling loaded MG Hector and Jeep Compass, however, NVH levels in Harrier are way better than that of Compass and Hector. And these two noisy taxi engine powered cars; Hector and compass don't have AT also. What a pointless logic is that Finally, its all bling in terms of mood lighting etc.. seriously ![]() Last edited by gutsy : 30th November 2019 at 18:53. | |
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