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Old 7th November 2019, 23:38   #61
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Maruti Suzuki S Cross spied again with BS6 1.6 (D) Fiat engine.
Seems like they used the same car for

i. Test drive during initial launch,
ii. Testing during the facelift (with changes to body panels), and
iii. Now, emission / bs-6 testing.
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Old 8th November 2019, 06:47   #62
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Why aren't they testing it in say Ciaz or Ertiga? Is it cause it was used in S-Cross so easier to pass unnoticed? Am glad this engine is making a comeback though the 1.5L from maruti is a charmer in itself.
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Default Re: Rumour: Maruti-Suzuki to introduce 1.6-Litre diesel engine in 2020

The sticker on the car says G 451. What if the G signifies "GASOLINE"?

Aren't we expecting a petrol powered SCross to launch soon? Would this be that one? And the 1.6 badge either intentionally put there for generating forum fun everywhere? Or perhaps they are using an old 1.6 spec car as donor to put that petrol in and test? I won't be surprised if its just a 1.5L petrol powered car on test.

(Although, there seems to be a typical Maruti placement vertical intercooler besides the radiator. So maybe a diesel afterall.)

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Default Re: Rumour: Maruti-Suzuki to introduce 1.6-Litre diesel engine in 2020

Throwing a spanner in the works here. What is it's a 1.5 diesel being tested in the body of an old test car?
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Default Rumour: Maruti-Suzuki to introduce 1.6-Litre diesel engine in 2020

They have the option of using the Corolla diesel 1.5 D-4D too. Why pay royalties again to Fiat when you have a better deal with Toyota Bharat. Am sure it can be made BS6 compliant and put out more power for Vitara, XL-6, S Cross and also the Ciaz.

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Default Re: Rumour: Maruti-Suzuki to introduce 1.6-Litre diesel engine in 2020

To me, it looks like MSIL is testing the 1.5 diesel engine with some add ons to make it BS6 compliant.
Below, we can see list of items imported by MSIL from Austria. Most of it seem to be for emission norms only.

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Default Re: Rumour: Maruti-Suzuki to introduce 1.6-Litre diesel engine in 2020

In an ideal world, Maruti should make the current 1.5 D engine BS-VI compliant and use it in Arena models like Swift, Dzire, Ertiga and Breeza. On Nexa models like Ciaz, S-Cross, XL6 and probably Baleno (difficult due to 1.5 tax rebate), they should use more premium and fun-to-drive Fiat's 1.6 L engine. It'll be a good differentiator between both the brands.
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Default Re: Rumour: Maruti-Suzuki to introduce 1.6-Litre diesel engine in 2020

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Maruti Suzuki S Cross spied again with BS6 1.6 (D) Fiat engine.

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To me, it looks like MSIL is testing the 1.5 diesel engine with some add ons to make it BS6 compliant.
Below, we can see list of items imported by MSIL from Austria. Most of it seem to be for emission norms only.
Maruti would be just testing the 1.6 MJD in BS6 to benchmark it with their in house 1.5 DDIS BS6 version. They were doing the same with VW Golf too.

Actual development for the market should be BS6 in 1.5 DDIS. I will still say 1.6 MJD is not coming back .
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Default Re: Rumour: Maruti-Suzuki to introduce 1.6-Litre diesel engine in 2020

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Below, we can see list of items imported by MSIL from Austria. Most of it seem to be for emission norms only.
Slightly offtopic but which website is this? Zauba has stopped updating data after November 2016 IIRC

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Default Re: Rumour: Maruti-Suzuki to introduce 1.6-Litre diesel engine in 2020

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Maruti would be just testing the 1.6 MJD in BS6 to benchmark it with their in house 1.5 DDIS BS6 version. They were doing the same with VW Golf too.

Actual development for the market should be BS6 in 1.5 DDIS. I will still say 1.6 MJD is not coming back .
I too feel 1.6 is not coming back, 1.6 is phased out and most of the development for this engine in 2015 happened via Hungary and Italy.

This is some development with Suzuki Austria and in all probability should be for 1.5 DDIS.
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Default Re: Rumour: Maruti-Suzuki to introduce 1.6-Litre diesel engine in 2020

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In an ideal world, Maruti should make the current 1.5 D engine BS-VI compliant and use it in Arena models like Swift, Dzire, Ertiga and Breeza. On Nexa models like Ciaz, S-Cross, XL6 and probably Baleno (difficult due to 1.5 tax rebate), they should use more premium and fun-to-drive Fiat's 1.6 L engine. It'll be a good differentiator between both the brands.
Totally agree with you. This will be best opportunity for Maruti to differentiate their premium models with arena models. 1.6 is gem of a engine and will add premiumness quotient in Nexa lineup.
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350 Nm of torque & Maruti Suzuki's light build quality.

Good car for a drag race. Will mostly be horrible out on the road with all the weight upfront!
Just wishing that they choose the erstwhile S-Cross quality and build especially for cars costing 12+ big ones. The high number of rogue cabbies/ errant racers getting such power in a light shell will mean more highway crashes.
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Default Re: Rumour: Maruti-Suzuki to introduce 1.6-Litre diesel engine in 2020

They probably have the 1.5L engine under the hood and didn't remove the 1.6 badge from the old car
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Default Re: Rumour: Maruti-Suzuki to introduce 1.6-Litre diesel engine in 2020

This car is probably the test bed for Maruti. It had the 1.6L then got facelifted and they might have removed the 1.6L engine and put in the 1.5L of their own into this car. Then testing BS6 emissions.

The 1.6L badge is cosmetic and obvious that they don't have to remove it for testing.

Getting the 1.6L engine which nobody else uses, pay additional taxes since above 1.5L and then pay royalty to Fiat after spending so much on developing your own 1.5L engine makes zero sense.
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Default Re: Rumour: Maruti-Suzuki to introduce 1.6-Litre diesel engine in 2020

Now Ertiga being tested for BS6 compliance wearing the DDiS badge!

Rumour: Maruti-Suzuki to introduce 1.6-Litre diesel engine in 2020-marutiertigadieselbs6spiedontest.jpg


Link (Maruti Ertiga : Official Review)
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