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| ![]() Guys, can we please stop mentioning the cars which have already been posted earlier? Triber has been posted 3-4 times now. Also, please check and understand the thread title again. It's not about VFM cars. Please don't mention qualities like FE and cheap maintenance. In general, cars from higher segment have lower FE and higher maintenance. So excelling in these doesn't count as punching above the weight. We need to show the virtues for which people go for the segment above. These are - power, space, ride and handling, safety, engineering. And NOT: High FE, cheap maintenance, compact size. |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() Going with the harmony of this thread, I think Maruti Omni surely punches above its weight and it was even used for kidnapping in Bollywood movies. Apart from that it was the original van before Innova and Hexa. ![]() The other one is Maruti Eeco, it can carry many people and has multiple seating options. I have seen more than 10 adults seated in Eeco. ![]() Sorry for the spoiler above, the one car missed in the first post of this thread is Polo GT TSI which was later agreed by OP. Thanks to TBhp I took these two purely based on the reviews. |
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| ![]() Two probable reasons for this above their weight phenomenon. Platform sharing especially among the VW cars has resulted in a lot of heavy hitters from the Skoda side. A half priced Audi with even more features and space, oh boy! What not to like. Another one is a car that's sold at a segment lower than what it is sold in other countries, this obviously gives it an advantage for our specific market - I'm talking about the big Ford. |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() A certain Ford EcoSport with a 1.5L Dragon's heart. Interior space aside, this car is a jewel for petrol lovers. Anyone who has driven it or owned it will vouch for the same. It's quick, free revving with a fantastic bottom-end and it's Power to Weight ratio of 99 BHP/ton will put a smile on your face as soon as you hit the open roads and cross 2500RPM. In short, it is a driver's delight. Considering that the Dragon matches bestsellers from a segment above such as the Honda City (117PS) and the Hyundai Creta (123PS) in sheer power numbers alone and yet retails for 9.99L ex-showroom in it's highest iteration, I'd say the Dragon-equipped EcoSport definitely punches above it's weight. Our own official review feedback |
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| ![]() The initial list was good. Out of those cars, my favourite would be the Seltos. Kia in the last few years has really upped its game. I have a 2018 Rio in Sydney and the quality is top notch and the warranty is unmatched (7 years unlimited KMs) |
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![]() Meanwhile, once you purchase the vehicle the importance tends to ever so slightly tilt towards the experience when you drive i.e. power, comfort, space, safety and last but not the least features. In this aspect Xylo has been bang on. Background - I have a family of 7 - all the 3 rows occupied, travel mostly to hilly regions - good power & ground clearance. | |
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Take for example many of the cars mentioned in the opening post: 1. Skoda Octavia and Superb: Both cars offer you so much more than their segment and one above, that despite after sales horror stories, enthusiasts and non enthusiasts, both have bought them in decent numbers considering teir segments. 2. Tata Hexa and Innova: Again a 20L Rs. Tata has found more buyers than anyone would have thought. In comparison the recently launched, much more flamboyant Harrier is struggling to sell. Same goes for a 25L Rs. Innova. 3. VW Polo GT twins: They were not really cheap, rather costliest in their segment. Higher after sales, snobbish VW attitude, low GC issues, DSG issues, did not stop the car from selling, even without any significant facelift whatsoever. I hope I have made my point. Having said that the Fiat twins do deserve a mention since they excelled in particular departments. And hence in this instance we can discount the actual sales numbers. | |
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And this very car is my case in point: sales numbers are not that relevant when judging the capabilities and performance of a car. Though it sells way less than half the XUV numbers, we know its capabilities and why it has come to this particular list. Anyways, it depends on individuals so you giving more weight to sales numbers could be relevant as per you. But for some of us its the product as a whole and we don't give second thoughts on how the market has received it! Sales numbers are external to the product and depends on a host of factors like competition, economy, etc. It in no way effects a product! There may be various reasons as to why a product doesn't sell. But the capabilities and in this case 'punching above its weight' is clearly observable and tangible.. | |
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I do agree with you that the title can be interpreted in different ways. | |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() ![]() | ![]() This thread title reminds me of the Tata Indica V2 ad from 2005! Indica V2 - More car, per car! And this was somewhat true! The car which dethroned Ambassador from the monopoly cab segment! Definitely this car came with it's own set of niggles and glitches. But, it was cheap to buy, cheap to maintain, supremely spacious, comfortable, fuel efficient & abuse friendly. Sorry to mention a car from the past which is no more in production, but the tag line of this car ad was too similar to this thread title! From the cars available today, my pick will be the Freestyle 1.5 TDCI. It's an all-rounder hatchback. It ticks all the followings- Performance, fuel efficiency, ground-clearance, reliability. This car can be used for regular office commute's, some fun drive on the highways and even for the long holiday drives which may include some bad roads! Last edited by Samba : 5th December 2019 at 18:47. |
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| ![]() In fact it was not even 250 at the time of its launch. For the first year Hexa sold close to 1000 every month and some months managed to even cross 1000. Looking back, Hexa sales in the first year was better than Harrier. I still cant fathom how in the world Tata convinced 1000 people per month( Including me ) to put 20 lakh on Hexa , that too with an archaic 5 inch ICE without android auto and apple car play. They must have done someting extremely well. The landscape has changed a lot in the last one and half years. The segment is now crowded with feature rich cars. Last edited by padmrajravi : 5th December 2019 at 20:55. |
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Also, the 150 units Hexa sells every month, are not all top end (XT/XTA) models. All other models retail for much below 20 lakh on road. | |
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| ![]() Again the context. Harrier came out when the company had generated a lot of positive reviews with its other offerings. It also came out when our market was and is at its peak desirability levels for an Urban SUV and here was a mini Land Rover. Why else do you think the general sentiment is that Harrier is not doing great in the market despite selling "4 times more than Hexa"? |
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