Why CBU for vRS 245 - Octavia Petrol 4x4 combinations. Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Naren 1. Electronic LSD
2. 7 speed DQ380
3. Redesigned exhaust for better sound and lower back pressure
4. Bigger brake discs |
Didn't the 230PS vRS sold in India already had VAQ (electronically actuated/controlled LSD)? The bigger brakes (340mm front) was definitely there. Our official review says only 272mm rear, but I am not sure about it and if rears were 310mm.
So #1 and #2 perhaps may not be all new for vRS 245 in India Quote:
Originally Posted by Vid6639 As mentioned above this will be a CBU .. | Quote:
Originally Posted by suhaas307 The most interesting addition to the CBU model ….. |
I am not clear on what is the business case for selling this variant of the vRS as CBU, when the 230PS was already CKD.
From homologation point of view, this isn't an all new car. Yes there is a new gearbox, but the base engine is already certified in India for RS230 and maybe through the different Audi models (that use it in longitudinal application). It is in a different state of tune with minor hardware changes. The body panels and key trims are completely shared with regular Octavia which has CKD operations already. So in my limited understanding of the matter, there isn't a need of full homologation (only the equivalent to certify emissions and fuel efficiency as per BS6 requirements and test cycles). Experts on homologation and certification, please feel free to chip and correct me
For Polo GTI, it was quite different. A different body shell, an engine not used in the Polo lineup in India (1.8TSI), structural difference between locally manufactured Polo with that of the Euro versions etc. They were also disposing the 3-door versions which weren't exactly selling as hot cakes in EU. It made more sense to bring the vehicle as CBU than to do a CKD operation, thought the car had to be homologated in India. Quote:
Originally Posted by itwasntme No chance at all. Skoda has globally never integrated the Octavia petrols with the Haldex 4x4. The combination itself does not exist. |
There are/were some excellent 4x4 variants of Petrol powered Octavia in the past. - Octavia Mk1: 1.8T 4x4 (150PS) --> my favourite car. With a remap it was far more capable than the vRS (180PS) and it shared drivetrain/chassis layout with the Audi S3 / Golf R32 back then.
- Octavia Mk2 Pre-FL: 2.0FSI 4x4 (NA engine, 150PS) --> Average motor
- Octavia Mk2 FL: 1.8TSI 4x4 (160PS). Laura in India. Available only in estate shape to my knowledge and only with MT. There was the regular variant as well as the "Scout" version. Unlike FWD 1.8TSI it had MQ350 gearbox (same as diesel / 2.0TSI vRS). With relevant mods, a much more capable car than the FWD vRS petrol.
- Octavia Mk3: 1.8TSI 4x4 (180PS) - If I recall correctly only in Estate shape. Regular and Scout versions. Only paired with DQ250 DSG.
It is indeed true that the vRS Petrol versions never had a 4x4 drivetrain. But in every generation of the Octavia, 1.8 turbo petrol with 4x4 was the hidden gem. Quote:
Originally Posted by StarrySky Are you sure? Skoda sells 2.0TSI 4x4 versions of the Octavia, Superb, Karoq and Kodiaq here. But, I am not sure if it's a Haldex system. |
2.0TSI with 4x4 is a new addition to the Octavia line-up since the Euro-6d norms started to kick in across Europe (WLTP, RDE, reduced conformity factor for RDE vs Lab results, Stricter EVAP rules etc).
Basically 1.8TSI has been replaced completely across EU and 2.0TSI (190PS tune) takes its place. And yes every VAG car with front-transverse engine + four-wheel drive layout uses a Haldex system (5th gen to be specific), though branded differently (4motion for VW, 4x4 for Skoda, Quattro for Audi etc).
Cheers,
Avinash
Last edited by avinash_clt : 4th December 2019 at 16:55.
Reason: Added response, clarifications, correction on Polo GTI homolgation and changed title
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