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Old 2nd January 2020, 10:50   #1
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Default No AWD on the Mahindra XUV500 BS6 (AT option continues)

Mahindra XUV500 BS6 details revealed - No AT variant post BS6 implementation.

The XUV500 with the BS6 diesel engine will be sold with a 6-speed manual gearbox only; likely to come with four variant option.


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The BS6-compliant XUV500 will be available in showrooms in the coming weeks and will continue to be powered by the same 2.2-litre diesel engine albeit with upgrades to meet the stricter emission norms, thanks to the addition of an SCR system and a DPF. The upgraded 2.2-litre engine is expected to churn out the same 155hp as its BS4 counterpart.

At launch, the BS6-compliant XUV500 will most likely be sold in four variants – W5, W7, W9 and W11 – and will be front-wheel drive only. As far as gearbox choices go, the XUV500 BS6 will be retailed with a sole 6-speed manual transmission option, which means the XUV500 automatic will not be on sale post April 1, 2020


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Old 2nd January 2020, 11:21   #2
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Default Re: Mahindra XUV500 facelift coming, to get power hike. EDIT: Now launched @ Rs 12.32 lakhs

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Mahindra XUV500 BS6 details revealed - No AT variant post BS6 implementation.
Are the sales of AT variants so low to axe them from the lineup completely? At a time when more and more customers are preferring automatics, Mahindra just wants to go the other way. Mahindra you might be fined for wrong side driving.
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Default re: Rumour: No AWD & AT option on Mahindra XUV500 BS6, EDIT - AT option to be continued.

This will definitely hurt XUV 500 volumes. Especially, the lack of auto. For sure, this should be some technical issues as I don't think they will ditch auto for lack of demand. I don't have the numbers, but think XUV 500 did have a fair share of automatics, more so in the lucrative top variants.

Tata has a big opportunity at hand if they can bring out Gravitas with auto from the launch itself. Yet, being Tata they will first come out with the belated Harrier auto and wait for one full year to later bring out Gravitas in auto. By that time, Gravitas too may be declared DOA like Harrier did last year. Lucky competitors, including Mahindra

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Default re: Rumour: No AWD & AT option on Mahindra XUV500 BS6, EDIT - AT option to be continued.

No AT option? Strange.

I believe that they have postponed offering ATs in BS6 models.

For a long time, Mahindra never offered ATs consistently in many of their offerings. Either it is a supply-demand issue, and / or Mahindra knows that their A.S.S is incapable of handling AT transmission issues.

For a car that costs more than 10 lakhs, XUV300 gets an AMT which has a "maruti" image to it. "A premium compact suv running on a maruti gearbox" That's how public may perceive it.

And Marazzo - a really capable product does not get even an AMT.

Mahindra should pull up. Or they are going to lose a big market share.
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For sure, this should be some technical issues as I don't think they will ditch auto for lack of demand.
The emission norms are for the engine. While the AT is on the Transmission side. So what issues can be there that AT is not being given with BS6 engines ?
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So what issues can be there that AT is not being given with BS6 engines ?
Possibility of no real estate to fit the AT gearbox due to the BS6 hardware additions.
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Default re: Rumour: No AWD & AT option on Mahindra XUV500 BS6, EDIT - AT option to be continued.

Cannot be a sourcing or quality issue. The XUV5OO's AT is from Aisin without any known history of niggles/breakdowns.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/offic...ml#post3876488 (Mahindra XUV500 Diesel Automatic : Official Review)
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Default re: Rumour: No AWD & AT option on Mahindra XUV500 BS6, EDIT - AT option to be continued.

As someone who just sold his AWD AT - had to :-( - this is disappointing if true. The convenience of the AT in city traffic, and the grip offered by AWD needs to be experienced to be believed. One of the reasons an XUV5OO was in my garage instead of a Hexa or Harrier was this combination of AWD AT.


While I am told that this combination was stopped in the current line up too (either AWD or AT, not both is available is what I heard), I hope Mahindra doesn't skimp on these in the 2020 car, and brings AWD AT as an option.

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The emission norms are for the engine. While the AT is on the Transmission side. So what issues can be there that AT is not being given with BS6 engines ?
Might not justify the additional engineering cost for a short time since the all new XUV is coming in 2020 on a new platform. So this will be interim.
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Might not justify the additional engineering cost for a short time since the all new XUV is coming in 2020 on a new platform. So this will be interim.
Fair enough, but again - the AT unit being the same, and they been working on the emission compliance part - what can be the reason to not offier AT ? Is it the real-estate ? Or something else ?
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Fair enough, but again - the AT unit being the same, and they been working on the emission compliance part - what can be the reason to not offier AT ? Is it the real-estate ? Or something else ?
Real estate will not be a big issue for FWD but will be for AWD since the BS6 hardware will be around the rear axle.

The major issue will probably be the electronics. The ECU will be different and will need to be tuned with the TCU (transmission control unit). That would also involve more cost and working with Aisin as well.

I would love to see that Aisin gearbox in the XUV3OO with the 1.5L engine. That would be the perfect combination.

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Default re: Rumour: No AWD & AT option on Mahindra XUV500 BS6, EDIT - AT option to be continued.

Toyota Innova Crysta - No AWD, but has an automatic and 7 seats.

Mahindra Xuv5oo - No automatic, no AWD, has 7 seats.

Jeep Compass - Has automatic & AWD both as an option but it's a 5 seater.

Renault Duster - Post BSVI there will be no diesel engines from Renault, so chances of getting an AWD in a petrol Duster is very less, plus it's a 5 seater.

Tata Hexa - Tata now has a golden opportunity! They must be grinning. Hope post BSVI, Hexa will still be available with an automatic and an AWD, plus it has 7 seats! As of now the only car remaining in this price range with an all-round package!

Eagerly waiting to see Mahindra unveil the new Scorpio!

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Default re: Rumour: No AWD & AT option on Mahindra XUV500 BS6, EDIT - AT option to be continued.

Sorry for this noob question. But the article mentions that BS6 XUV will lose the AWD and Automatic. It doesn't mention that the next gen XUV will not have these features.

If M&M launches the next gen XUV500 by say Diwali next year, then they would still be selling the current gen from April till Diwali. So may be they are not updating the current platform for AWD and Automatic capabilities with BS6 hardware while the next gen XUV will get these features. Because I don't expect Mahindra to commit such harakiri. Experts please shed some light.
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The ECU will be different and will need to be tuned with the TCU (transmission control unit). That would also involve more cost and working with Aisin as well.
AWD not being present is understandable. Are TCUs very sensitive to small changes the engine's power and torque curves?
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