Hyundai i30 - Hyundai's next model for India?

rangaraj · 24th April 2007, 12:54

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Originally Posted by vid6639

They already have a price advantage. The sonata embera CRDi is priced almost 2L lesser than the honda accord petrol.

Via discounts on street price? The ex-show room price difference is around 25K (Embera CRDi - 14.77 and accord 15.05 in Bangalore).

Equus · 24th April 2007, 13:05

Not sure if I read it somewhere or was just dreaming

The i30 sedan version is going to replace the Elantra..

Steeroid · 24th April 2007, 13:15

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Originally Posted by GTO

Gotta love Hyundais new designs, and I am glad it is getting rid of the "quirky" design culture. The new Sonata, Elantra, Getz and the i30 have very clean lines.

Yup. However the Verna disappointed with its Eggy looks (some people seem to love it, though - my FIL was raving over the looks, something I couldnt understand but then he's my FIL!).

The other point is the quality of construction - one of my friends was getting his Azera's ICE upgraded with Dampers and stuff (why, I dont know - it has 8 Infinity speakers and a sub as OE) and thats when we got to inspect the club-sandwich beadings on the doors (3 layers of super high-quality beadings of different types) and the phenomenally well-build doors. Wind noise is absolutely minimal on that car and the drive to the install centre was terrific. I was very very impressed.

khanak · 24th April 2007, 13:24

So where does the i30 fit in? A getz replacement? or something between the getz and the verna? hmmm

One thing I dont like about the design is the front grille which IMO is too small.

OT: More than the badge its the product that matters. The old Sonata was a lot better accepted than the new one because people perceived it to be a lot better product. Also if the badge was so important why would people love Skoda so much? the Octavia was perceived to be a nice solid product and so people loved it.

srishiva · 24th April 2007, 13:39

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Originally Posted by Equus

Not sure if I read it somewhere or was just dreaming

The i30 sedan version is going to replace the Elantra..

you are right. It will be the base for next Elantra.

Steeroid · 24th April 2007, 13:46

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Originally Posted by srishiva

you are right. It will be the base for next Elantra.

But the next Elantra is already on the roads. This one isnt.

amit · 3rd May 2007, 15:16

Hyundai plans to launch the i30 wagon in US badged as a Elantra Wagon. Could we see something similar happen in India? The Elantra wagon will be a nice variant addition to Hhyundai India's range.

Source: Autoblog.com: i30 based Elantra wagon for US.

frankmehta · 3rd May 2007, 20:38

im really sorry to mention this but i dont see a market in india for a premium hatch without a boot yet.even though a large handful of us enthusiasts would love to own a hot hatch on those lines....and esp hyundai is not known to churn out sporty engines(eg the accent tornado, sonata embera etc. with high bhp figures but mushy and slow responding) so we dont know how their sports tuning for india would be..as always theyll detune the engine for indian fuel condns and blunt its performance.
i think the closest to a hot hatch in india is the palio 1.6 but that dint sell well either..the swift diesel could be a hot hatch and ill be hapy to see someone strap on a petes on to it(when its available) and show us how the hot crdi scorches the road!

Raja · 29th June 2007, 09:39

Car Magazine Online has a nice review of the i30:

Hyundai i30 - First Drives - Carmagazine.co.uk

navin · 29th June 2007, 12:27

I have driven the Embera and while it is not as much fun to drive as say an Octy RS it si not a bad car. It feel soild (does not feel Korean or even Jap) and I loved the rear leg room compared to the cramped octy and marginally better Corolla/Civic.

Yes the hgh initial price killed it. When you kill the initial excitement the image suffers. Imagine pricing the Emebra at the same price as the Accord.

Hyusdai has does this time and again and I will be surprised if they have learnt. They seem to be doing a "lets see how high a price we can get away with" policy.

If they bring the i30 in where do they position it? As a premium hatch costing almost as much as a base Verna? A fully loaded Getz sells for 5.5L. A Base Verna is about 1L more.

In the developed world where the thought of paying more for a hatch than a sedan is common it is ok. With the "kilo-ke-hisab" Indian mentality you are cornered.

So where do they slot the i30? "Urban-hatch - for those who can afford the Verna but not the parking space"? :-)

rubin2006 · 29th June 2007, 17:02

Cars looks good but who know when its coming to india as hyundai is known to get the best they have to offer to india it should make it here soon

Steeroid · 15th July 2007, 12:21

The i30 was launched in the UK last week - see report below which indicates the engine range starts at 1.6 litre diesel and includes a 142 bhp 2.0 litre diesel as the range topper.

Report from the AutoChannel includes video:

Hyundai Opens New Chapter with Launch of i30 - VIDEO ENHANCED

Looks like the test mule codenamed 'Pa' which is rumoured to be the Santro replacement is a shrunk version of this car. This one's to be the Getz replacement in Europe.

raul · 15th July 2007, 23:37

I think this is the wider problem of Indian auto companies and pricing, for instance the Getz should have done much better, it had an early advantage, the marketing folks in some of these companies seem to be more interested in brand than sales.

MaserQ · 16th July 2007, 00:29

I hope its a Getz replacement in India as well! About the looks- everyone and his uncle have been raving about it. The headlamps look like those from the Toyota Avensis, the side profile resembles the Seat Altea, the rear hatch has a bit of Beemer 1-series in it and the rear lights seem to have come off a Citroen. Yet, it manages to look good.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 16th July 2007, 01:14

Doesnt the front end treatment shout

'Civic'?

I cant help but think its a copy cat from upfront.

24th April 2007, 13:05	#17
Equus Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,123 Thanked: 423 Times	Not sure if I read it somewhere or was just dreaming The i30 sedan version is going to replace the Elantra..
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24th April 2007, 13:24	#19
khanak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai/Toronto Posts: 2,799 Thanked: 268 Times View My Garage	So where does the i30 fit in? A getz replacement? or something between the getz and the verna? hmmm One thing I dont like about the design is the front grille which IMO is too small. OT: More than the badge its the product that matters. The old Sonata was a lot better accepted than the new one because people perceived it to be a lot better product. Also if the badge was so important why would people love Skoda so much? the Octavia was perceived to be a nice solid product and so people loved it. Last edited by khanak : 24th April 2007 at 13:25.
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3rd May 2007, 15:16	#22
amit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3,717 Thanked: 449 Times	Elantra Wagon based on i30 Hyundai plans to launch the i30 wagon in US badged as a Elantra Wagon. Could we see something similar happen in India? The Elantra wagon will be a nice variant addition to Hhyundai India's range. Source: Autoblog.com: i30 based Elantra wagon for US. Last edited by amit : 3rd May 2007 at 15:17.
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3rd May 2007, 20:38	#23
frankmehta Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 4,000 Thanked: 3,577 Times View My Garage	im really sorry to mention this but i dont see a market in india for a premium hatch without a boot yet.even though a large handful of us enthusiasts would love to own a hot hatch on those lines....and esp hyundai is not known to churn out sporty engines(eg the accent tornado, sonata embera etc. with high bhp figures but mushy and slow responding) so we dont know how their sports tuning for india would be..as always theyll detune the engine for indian fuel condns and blunt its performance. i think the closest to a hot hatch in india is the palio 1.6 but that dint sell well either..the swift diesel could be a hot hatch and ill be hapy to see someone strap on a petes on to it(when its available) and show us how the hot crdi scorches the road!
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29th June 2007, 09:39	#24
Raja BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 419 Thanked: 69 Times	Car Magazine Online Review Car Magazine Online has a nice review of the i30: Hyundai i30 - First Drives - Carmagazine.co.uk
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29th June 2007, 12:27	#25
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,198 Thanked: 9,300 Times	I have driven the Embera and while it is not as much fun to drive as say an Octy RS it si not a bad car. It feel soild (does not feel Korean or even Jap) and I loved the rear leg room compared to the cramped octy and marginally better Corolla/Civic. Yes the hgh initial price killed it. When you kill the initial excitement the image suffers. Imagine pricing the Emebra at the same price as the Accord. Hyusdai has does this time and again and I will be surprised if they have learnt. They seem to be doing a "lets see how high a price we can get away with" policy. If they bring the i30 in where do they position it? As a premium hatch costing almost as much as a base Verna? A fully loaded Getz sells for 5.5L. A Base Verna is about 1L more. In the developed world where the thought of paying more for a hatch than a sedan is common it is ok. With the "kilo-ke-hisab" Indian mentality you are cornered. So where do they slot the i30? "Urban-hatch - for those who can afford the Verna but not the parking space"? :-) Last edited by navin : 29th June 2007 at 12:28.
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29th June 2007, 17:02	#26
rubin2006 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: delhi/calgary Posts: 286 Thanked: Once	Cars looks good but who know when its coming to india as hyundai is known to get the best they have to offer to india it should make it here soon
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15th July 2007, 12:21	#27
Steeroid Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: N.A Posts: 7,046 Thanked: 2,751 Times	The i30 was launched in the UK last week - see report below which indicates the engine range starts at 1.6 litre diesel and includes a 142 bhp 2.0 litre diesel as the range topper. Report from the AutoChannel includes video: Hyundai Opens New Chapter with Launch of i30 - VIDEO ENHANCED Looks like the test mule codenamed 'Pa' which is rumoured to be the Santro replacement is a shrunk version of this car. This one's to be the Getz replacement in Europe. Last edited by Steeroid : 15th July 2007 at 12:23.
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15th July 2007, 23:37	#28
raul BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pune Posts: 920 Thanked: 372 Times	I think this is the wider problem of Indian auto companies and pricing, for instance the Getz should have done much better, it had an early advantage, the marketing folks in some of these companies seem to be more interested in brand than sales.
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16th July 2007, 00:29	#29
MaserQ Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,196 Thanked: 166 Times	I hope its a Getz replacement in India as well! About the looks- everyone and his uncle have been raving about it. The headlamps look like those from the Toyota Avensis, the side profile resembles the Seat Altea, the rear hatch has a bit of Beemer 1-series in it and the rear lights seem to have come off a Citroen. Yet, it manages to look good.
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16th July 2007, 01:14	#30
CrAzY dRiVeR Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Bangalore / TVM Posts: 17,180 Thanked: 73,502 Times View My Garage	Doesnt the front end treatment shout 'Civic'? I cant help but think its a copy cat from upfront.
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