New Bolero launched

man23ish · 30th March 2007, 20:16

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Originally Posted by esteem_lover

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I might get flamed for this. But i dont think it is that bad.

Actually, the stepney cover is pretty neat & novel.

Well, i beg to differ..

If you look at the picture above? The height of the Bonnet is probably at the same level as that of the Amby adjacent. But the height of the body is quite high. This is not what you expect from an MUV. There needs to be some adherence to proportions and aesthetics, which is sorely missing. One-sideways look at the vehicle and you wouldn't want to look at it again.

My guess that that was always the case, but the side hinges, probably hid that feeling. (IMHO the Armada was quite a looker..)

Have they increased the height of the cabin or is it still the same as the older Bolero??

Manish

hell_rider · 30th March 2007, 22:51

actually, the bonnet of the bolero is higher than that of the amby. it is the awkward angle here that is misleading. one tends to look at the rib running along the side of the bolero with the top of the "fin" over the amby's rear lights.

also, the vehicle is not really a tall-boy. it actually seems to sit much "squatter" (lord, is that even a word) than the scorpio.

i think its the door size / design / styling that give that oddly proportioned look. what say ??

spider77 · 30th March 2007, 23:12

so sad they killed the looks guys,dissapointing change.

condor · 31st March 2007, 08:18

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..the interiors definitely look built to a price, but then what a price !!

.. Should be ok if M&M has also priced the vehicle proportionately.

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one thing i noticed was that the gear shift was quite close to the dash. i wonder if it will be uncomfortable arm-position wise on long drives, having to constantly reach that far to shift.

The gear lever was already close to the dash .. and getting the cd's out from the player was tricky. And you say that now the lever is further up against the dash ?!

chaxy · 31st March 2007, 09:26

One thing is definitely true, the old bolero is much better looking. Once i had a couple of american clients whom i was taking around hyderabad. They all really liked the odd design of bolero so much. Infact they all said that the hinge design was simply too cool. i am surprised why so many people (incl M&M) dont like the hinge design.

The bolero is a good workhorse which can be trashed and still it would maintain its integrity. For the price this can be a good toy to play with. Some cosmetic changes i have done,

spatafarose · 31st March 2007, 12:00

New bolero looks better

esteem_lover · 1st April 2007, 23:09

The hinges need not have been concealed, they had a certain charm. But i cannot agree with man23ish's comments about the height which has not changed even a small degree from its previous avatar. How else can you make a jeep ? it needs a good high cabin & the bolero is not the mean looking SUV, it is a performer without the looks. If someone wants mean looks, they should get the endeavour. No sir, the bolero is not for you. And people, please dont even compare this to the Sumo. cough cough cough. LOL

low_bass_makker · 2nd April 2007, 01:23

for meaner look a good set of alloys work wonder.....

Zappo · 2nd April 2007, 01:28

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Originally Posted by chanapli

I thought Euro standard is only for emission norms.

Yeah E-III (or BS-III) is emmission norm... however govt. has made it compulsory now for new cars to have headlight levelling devices. So you get all E-III vehicles with this attachment (nothing to do with E-III as per se).

This device is helpful when your vehicle is loaded and hence the lowbeam tends to go a little higher due to the load at the back. Although I wonder how practical that is considering that in India everybody cocks a snook at the law and drives on high beam even in the cities.

hell_rider · 2nd April 2007, 18:53

correction to my earlier post above...

it doesn't look like they have moved the CDP higher.

wizardofid · 2nd April 2007, 23:42

Indian car companies suffer from a lack of design discipline at the top (of their heap of mediocre warriors). One would have thought that after the Scorp experience M&M would only be getting much better. Somehow their designers seem to be caught in a time warp. This looks 1997. Not 2007. They're losing the jeep feel, and could have done some much more, without too much more investment, rather than making it look like a slapped on job.

Some photoshop expert has been working overtime to get their gallery all done up. The view was almost awesome, but they refused to take out the bolero

Influenced no doubt by the other big-daddy of soft-family-SUV's - Landrover.

M&M would have instead done well to borrow some styling cues and maybe even proportions (to whatever extent they can change them), from the LR2 (the new Freelander)

Or from the guys who set them off on the Jeep path to start with (AMC/Jeep then, now Chrysler). I dont like the new American SUV's though. They're looking soft in the middle.

hell_rider · 4th April 2007, 22:16

oh man !!! when will indian manufacturers design vehicles like the 2 above beauties ????

do these designers not see other vehicles before they start their photoshopping / designing ????

chanapli · 5th April 2007, 06:38

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Originally Posted by esteem_lover

The hinges need not have been concealed, they had a certain charm.

Well, The Hinge cover is just a flimsy plastic and I guess it can be easly removed to get original look.

sujaylahiri · 5th April 2007, 08:32

How much will it cost Mahindra to make Bolero a decent and proportionate looking MUV. They can borrow a lot from the Scorpio.
I had a lot of respect for the old Bolero because I thought that they would improve on it but this is disappointment.

hell_rider · 5th April 2007, 12:23

when i looked at it really long and hard, i got the feeling that they have mainly gone overboard with the front bumper design. If they had reined that in a little bit, i guess most people wouldn't be so disappointed with the looks.

30th March 2007, 22:51	#62
hell_rider BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 538 Thanked: 61 Times	actually, the bonnet of the bolero is higher than that of the amby. it is the awkward angle here that is misleading. one tends to look at the rib running along the side of the bolero with the top of the "fin" over the amby's rear lights. also, the vehicle is not really a tall-boy. it actually seems to sit much "squatter" (lord, is that even a word) than the scorpio. i think its the door size / design / styling that give that oddly proportioned look. what say ??
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30th March 2007, 23:12	#63
spider77 BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 126 Thanked: 11 Times View My Garage	so sad they killed the looks guys,dissapointing change.
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31st March 2007, 09:26	#65
chaxy BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: hyderabad Posts: 388 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	One thing is definitely true, the old bolero is much better looking. Once i had a couple of american clients whom i was taking around hyderabad. They all really liked the odd design of bolero so much. Infact they all said that the hinge design was simply too cool. i am surprised why so many people (incl M&M) dont like the hinge design. The bolero is a good workhorse which can be trashed and still it would maintain its integrity. For the price this can be a good toy to play with. Some cosmetic changes i have done, Last edited by chaxy : 31st March 2007 at 09:32.
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31st March 2007, 12:00	#66
spatafarose BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cochin Posts: 32 Thanked: 0 Times	New bolero looks better
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1st April 2007, 23:09	#67
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 502 Times View My Garage	The hinges need not have been concealed, they had a certain charm. But i cannot agree with man23ish's comments about the height which has not changed even a small degree from its previous avatar. How else can you make a jeep ? it needs a good high cabin & the bolero is not the mean looking SUV, it is a performer without the looks. If someone wants mean looks, they should get the endeavour. No sir, the bolero is not for you. And people, please dont even compare this to the Sumo. cough cough cough. LOL
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2nd April 2007, 01:23	#68
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,815 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	for meaner look a good set of alloys work wonder.....
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2nd April 2007, 18:53	#70
hell_rider BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 538 Thanked: 61 Times	correction to my earlier post above... it doesn't look like they have moved the CDP higher.
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2nd April 2007, 23:42	#71
wizardofid BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 207 Thanked: 6 Times	Indian car companies suffer from a lack of design discipline at the top (of their heap of mediocre warriors). One would have thought that after the Scorp experience M&M would only be getting much better. Somehow their designers seem to be caught in a time warp. This looks 1997. Not 2007. They're losing the jeep feel, and could have done some much more, without too much more investment, rather than making it look like a slapped on job. Some photoshop expert has been working overtime to get their gallery all done up. The view was almost awesome, but they refused to take out the bolero Influenced no doubt by the other big-daddy of soft-family-SUV's - Landrover. M&M would have instead done well to borrow some styling cues and maybe even proportions (to whatever extent they can change them), from the LR2 (the new Freelander) Or from the guys who set them off on the Jeep path to start with (AMC/Jeep then, now Chrysler). I dont like the new American SUV's though. They're looking soft in the middle.
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4th April 2007, 22:16	#72
hell_rider BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 538 Thanked: 61 Times	oh man !!! when will indian manufacturers design vehicles like the 2 above beauties ???? do these designers not see other vehicles before they start their photoshopping / designing ????
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5th April 2007, 08:32	#74
sujaylahiri BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: North America Posts: 960 Thanked: 6 Times View My Garage	How much will it cost Mahindra to make Bolero a decent and proportionate looking MUV. They can borrow a lot from the Scorpio. I had a lot of respect for the old Bolero because I thought that they would improve on it but this is disappointment.
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5th April 2007, 12:23	#75
hell_rider BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 538 Thanked: 61 Times	when i looked at it really long and hard, i got the feeling that they have mainly gone overboard with the front bumper design. If they had reined that in a little bit, i guess most people wouldn't be so disappointed with the looks.
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