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Old 10th January 2020, 12:16   #1
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Default The BS6 Ford Endeavour with new 2.0L diesel engine, now launched at 29.55 lakhs

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Rushlane has learnt that, Ford India will finally introduce the new motor in question as a part of BS6 update. The older motors are not likely to be updated to the new emission regulations and hence are expected to be discontinued by April 1, 2020. Ford has not confirmed this update.

Shifting to a smaller 2.0 liter diesel motor will help Ford India to keep the Endeavour prices in check. Updating the current 2.2 liter and 3.2 liter motors to BS6 would have resulted in price hike in the region of Rs 3-5 lakhs. For the same reason, Toyota India has discontinued their larger 2.8 liter diesel engine from the Innova Crysta BS6 and soon to be launched Fortuner BS6.

The new down-sized 2.0-liter diesel engine adds an additional turbocharger to compensate for the lack of displacement. The new motor is good for 210 hp and a heady torque of 500 Nm. The engine is paired to a new 10-speed automatic gearbox. A uncamouflaged prototype of what is believed to be the Ford Endeavour BS6 was recently spotted testing. There are no cosmetic changes compared to last year’s facelifted model.

Expect the 2020 Ford Endeavour BS6 to witness an inflation in the price owing to the new powertrain. The existing model retails between INR 29.2 lakh to INR 34.7 lakh (Ex-showroom). Despite its steep pricing, the premium SUV has been managing to clock around 700 units on most months. In fact, the Endy has been consistently bringing higher sales volume than the much cheaper and mass market Aspire compact sedan.

The updated Ford Endeavour BS6 is expected to go on sale sometime before April this year. It is to be noted that the American automaker has chose not to participate in this year’s Auto Expo.
Source: Rushlane

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Old 10th January 2020, 19:10   #2
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Thanks for sharing.

Here is a video I found online which highlights the difference between the new Endeavour and the Endeavour launched in 2016 in India. Some of the changes have already been done in the updated version of 2019.

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Old 10th January 2020, 21:00   #3
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If the Endeavour indeed launches with those power figures, suddenly the competition starts appearing weak, atleast on paper. The upcoming D90 SUV which was supposed to top the power and torque charts also has a lesser power and torque rating.

And talk about the 10 speed automatic. I think 10 speeds is an overkill, even the CRV's 9 speed automatic does not see the use of the 9th gear at speeds less than 140 kmph. But let's see how Ford manages to select the 10 ratios. And if the Endeavour launches with this sole engine option then the owners can enjoy both the frugality of the older 2.2 and the power of the 3.2 combined in a single package.
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Sad that Ford let go off the 2.2 and 3.2 in the BS6 era, given that euro6 versions of both are available in the UK market. And as an excuse, just like Toyota quoting 3-5 lakhs as conversion costs if they had went ahead.

Going by international reviews, most of the Indian buyers would be pleased with the performance and refinement.

Only shortcoming of the engine compared to the old 3.2, is in towing and heavy off-road applications, which I guess 90% of Indian customers won't even care about.

Also the bi-turbo and 10 speed tranny have their share of reliability issues, but guess Ford must have ironed them over in the past two years.
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Default re: The BS6 Ford Endeavour with new 2.0L diesel engine, now launched at 29.55 lakhs

I highly doubt this news article. A bi-turbo engine will greatly add to cost & complexity, both in purchase as well as maintenance. The same point applies to the 10-speed gearbox as well.

SCR-type emissions treatment will easily make the existing Endeavour engines BS6 compliant and that's the way the industry is going.
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Default re: The BS6 Ford Endeavour with new 2.0L diesel engine, now launched at 29.55 lakhs

This has more to do with emission norms and not downsizing. As usual, an article with limited knowledge. Newer turbo engine and 10 speed gear box will be more expensive over existing ones.

I believe,Toyota dealers will also use the same logic to convince customers

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Sad that Ford let go off the 2.2 and 3.2 in the BS6 era, given that euro6 versions of both are available in the UK market.
Endeavour/Everest is not available in UK and the 2.2 engine is not even Euro 5 ready thatís why itís discontinued for Australian market. 3.2 Euro 6 engine is available with Ranger though.

Since the 2.2 engine is not even Euro 5 ready we can safely assume it will be discontinued for Indian market.

https://www.ford.co.uk/content/dam/g...New_Ranger.pdf
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Spoke to a known dealership, cars are indeed being launched as early as this month end. Dealer dispatches will begin in about 5-7 days. 2,2 ltr is being stopped and 3,2 ltr will continue. No idea about prices as of now and Black interiors might come on the newer engine. I won’t be surprised if Ford positions 3,2 as Trend and the newer engine as Titanium. Most likely, Ford will wait for BS6 prices of Fortuner before announcing their own in my opinion.

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The Ford Ranger with the new Bi-turbo and 10 Auto gearbox is currently the highest selling 4WD and pick up truck in Australia. The Ford Everest is slightly down the chart but the topic of discussion here is the new Bi-turbo engine. This Ranger also outsells the Toyota Hilux which is nothing but the big brother of the Fortuner.

This new Ranger has a selectable 2WD to 4WD unlike the 3.2L full time 4WD. This in turn will be more fuel efficient when compared to the 3.2L engine.

Link: https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/top...-november-2019
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Endeavour/Everest is not available in UK and the 2.2 engine is not even Euro 5 ready thatís why itís discontinued for Australian market. 3.2 Euro 6 engine is available with Ranger though.

Since the 2.2 engine is not even Euro 5 ready we can safely assume it will be discontinued for Indian market.

https://www.ford.co.uk/content/dam/g...New_Ranger.pdf
My bad. Had earlier read that both 2.2 and 3.2 would be available in euro6 version. Both are available in euro5. Looks like the 2.2 didn't make the move, while the 3.2 continue to be offered alongside the new 2.0 bi-turbo.

Ofcourse Everest/Endy is not available in UK, but it's the wagon version of the Ranger, which is available there. Quoted UK, cause couldn't bother to find another English speaking place which follows euro norms.
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Don't know what the reliability will be for such a complex engine. The rival fortuner i think will still offer the 2.8 post BS6 so i don't know what kind of perceptions this engine will create for the product in the market.
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Bi-Turbo engines making this kind of power and torque, with only around 2 litres capacity are not new. In 2009, Mercedes introduced the OM651 diesel with twin turbocharges putting out 204 hp and 500 NM from a mere 2.1 litre engine. The engine did duty on the E250CDi and the C250CDI among many others.

It has taken Ford 11 years to get there and it will take Toyota at least another 11 more!

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I highly doubt this news article. A bi-turbo engine will greatly add to cost & complexity, both in purchase as well as maintenance. The same point applies to the 10-speed gearbox as well.

SCR-type emissions treatment will easily make the existing Endeavour engines BS6 compliant and that's the way the industry is going.
Definitely more cost and complexity but this engine was introduced in Everest in 2018 internationally. It's only in India that Ford gave it a skip.

https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/inter...el-engine.html (Ford reveals 2.0L EcoBlue diesel engine)

Here's a comparo review:
https://www.caradvice.com.au/717390/...re-comparison/

Overall it is improved but looks like it loses the low down punch somewhat.

Also, as you mentioned they can just continue with 3.2L and add SCR+DPF like what is available internationally instead of getting the 2.0+10 speed.
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With competition hiking the price for BS6, Ford would be able to accommodate the biturbo engine as an option. They would be still able to place it below Fortuner top end price.
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According to this Philippines review, the new Endeavour 2020 gives 16 kmpl at 100 kmphr on the highway. Those are some figures for a 2.5 tonne beast.

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