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Yes, if I really like it or the price is good 451 73.93%
No way I'm bringing a flop home 159 26.07%
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Old 11th March 2021, 23:17   #136
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Excellent thread!
Voted NO.
Flopped cars doesn't always necessarily mean bad cars. They are labelled flopped cars not without reasons, and the primary reason is the sales figures which may be due to a variety of factors. As posted by quite a few BHPians, the cars might have given them trouble free ownership and thousands of kilometres of happiness. It can also be seen that not everyone is worried about the resale value or the image as long the vehicle serves them well.

The major problem with these kind of vehicles is in the case of breakdowns or repetitive faults/repairs. Spares are either not available or when available, they are too expensive. The mechanics/workshops who deal with such vehicles are generally few and far. I am writing this from my own experience of owning and maintaining a Fiat Palio 1.6 GTX. In the initial years when the car was new, it was extreme fun driving it. Later on, the experience of maintaining the car was nothing but terrible to say the least.

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Old 11th March 2021, 23:21   #137
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Whenever buying or recommending Maruti Cars I follow a simple rule, buy the one which doesn't sell according to Maruti sales numbers. They will be fantastic products.

Examples:
Baleno sedan, Old Alto 1.1L, Kizashi, Grand Vitara, A-Star, Ritz, Ignis, S-Cross, Etc.

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Old 12th March 2021, 00:03   #138
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Buying a ‘flop’ car in some cases makes great sense esp if you know spares and service will be easily available. A few examples
- Tata Manza
- Fiat Linea (shared mechanicals/ drivetrains)
- Mahindra TUV(shared mechanicals / drivetrains)
- Ford Fusion (shared mechanicals)

Would you label the Manza as a flop car or a sales success? It was probably a moderate flop. If you were to buy a 2011-12 top end Manza petrol or diesel with moderate running (30-70k kms) you could get it for 2.2-2.5 lakhs. - A spacious, comfortable sedan at that price. Spares are easy for example the engine - the diesel was the erstwhile ‘national engine’ and the petrol was shared with multiple cars!, body parts are shared with Vista (front) which makes parts readily available. And spares are not too expensive!
A MS Dzire of the same vintage will cost you at least 50k to a lakh more. Even better if you get a Fiesta - same vintage costs less than the Manza!

I believe some great cars are flops from a market perspective but enthusiasts like us who care for the cars would love it. Just earlier today I saw a Chevrolet (Subaru) Forester - the chap had bought it last year for a pittance (less than a 150 cc motorbike).

It depends upon your garage as well - if you need a car which will mostly be used for commuting and the occasional long drive - go ahead with a flop - esp if you have a good FNG. Whenever you plan a long trip - get a checkup done by the FNG before you leave. A flop makes even more sense in a multi car garage

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Old 12th March 2021, 14:03   #139
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I bought a 'flop' car - Hyundai Getz, more than ten years back. We knew it was not popular. We really liked the looks. We did not find anything wrong with it. It was spacious. It was sturdy (not flimsy like some of its competitors).

We are quite satisfied with our ownership. There is no image problem, at least we don't have. Our friend circle also liked it. Of course in later years there is problem of resale value and spare parts.
Getz 1.1 prime is a perfect example of how you can find extreme value by paying peanuts compared to engineering efforts that went into the car. The Getz 1.1 prime was offered a little above the price bracket of wagon r / ritz. Except for the engine, almost all other components were far superior ( suspension, space, flexibility ) to the competition.

I could spot Getz almost globally ( UK, Australia, Turkey, Africa, SEAsia ) till 2019 in a perfect operational condition almost 9 years after the production halt.
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