[vredesbyrd]

The design looks absolutely regal and I am happy to see them retain physical dials. But will 6 ratios enough? Since they stopped the nice V8 due to all the environmentalism going around, why not make it more efficient by mating a 7 or 8 speed gearbox?

[CEF_Beasts]

Originally Posted by vredesbyrd

Why not make it more efficient by mating a 7 or 8 speed gearbox?

The reason is why fix something that ain’t broken, it has already proven it’s reliability since it will be the same gearbox used currently. Also Toyota doesn’t have any 7 or 8 speed torque converters, they have 8 or 10 step CVTs like in the Lexus LS500h or LC500. A CVT would be the last thing anyone would want in a Land Crusier!

The 10-speed experience could be a mega-miser, its progress punctuated by a road-train-like constant swapping of cogs – or, the changes will be so smooth it’ll just feel like a CVT (without the wide-open-throttle drone). https://www.whichcar.com.au/features...uto-geek-speak

[Turbanator]

Originally Posted by CEF_Beasts

Toyota doesn’t have any 7 or 8 speed torque converters, they have 8 or 10 step CVTs like in the Lexus LS500h or LC500.

No, they already use 8 speed on the Lexus variant for LC - LX570.

In all probability, we are going to see a V6 Petrol in the beginning. They may offer hybrid as an option. For some markets like Australia, they can even continue with V8 if we go by the recent comments from Toyota Australia. But these V8s will be offered only where there are not many Environmental challenges.

For market like ours, they may offer V6 with hybrid as standard. The outgoing one was priced around 1,50 ex-showroom when they stopped selling. I am expecting new one to costs around 1,65-1,80 Cr.

Pretty much irrelevant for most folks despite interests. State governments with zero GST and customs will be the target audiences besides the politicians and HNI/ Actors, as with the past generation.

[volkman10]

More info. on the upcoming Land Cruiser:







- 3 Types of codes ( Chassis and Engine)

- Model number change from 200 to 300

- Transmission will be 10 speed AT ( ratio being closer at each stage achieving seamlees acceleration)


GRJ300 - 1GR-FE

- 4.0L V6 Naturally Aspirated Engine ( Probably for overseas market, Hybrid with combination of electric motors?)

- Could arrive at a later date after the launch

FJA300- F33A-FTV

-3.3L V6 Turbo Diesel

VJA300-V35A -FTS

- 3.5L, V6 twin turbo Petrol engine (same as in the LS500, 400 PS, 600+ Nm ?)

Link

[DicKy]

Originally Posted by volkman10

GRJ300 - 1GR-FE

- 4.0L V6 Naturally Aspirated Engine ( Probably for overseas market, Hybrid with combination of electric motors?)

The 1GR is still there!! ??
I thought a NA version of the new 3.5l V6 would be the base engine.
The 1GR is no doubt a reliable honest engine. Guess they kept it to keep the base price low specifically for the GCC market and to keep the racer-boys happy, maybe with even a manual in the base variant.

Originally Posted by volkman10

VJA300-V35A -FTS
- 3.5L, V6 twin turbo Petrol engine (same as in the LS500, 400 PS, 600+ Nm ?)

The mainstay engine of the next generation.
Expected a NA version, but guess that role has been filled by the old 1GR 4.0l V6.
Twin turbo and also hybrid versions expected.

Originally Posted by volkman10

FJA300- F33A-FTV
-3.3L V6 Turbo Diesel

The engine option that had the most vague rumours floating around.
From a rebored 3.3l version of the 2.8 GD engine.
To a brand new 3.3l V6 diesel.
To even a return to inline-6 with the help of Mazda. (Though Toyota-Mazda will surely work together for various projects, using a JV tech engine for Toyota's flagship would have been blasphemous. Though I really wish it got an inline-6 instead of a V6)

A 3.3l V6 diesel makes sense. As Toyota could use it for more varied applications.
Landcruiser Prado, Fortuner, Hilux, maybe the USDM trucks or even the new Hiace.
Whereas a V8 or inline-6 diesel would have had limited applications. Can't wait for the half crore next gen Fortuner to have a V6

The only chance of the Landcruiser 300 to get a V8 maybe through a special edition with the under development 4.0l V8 of Lexus, in select markets like the GCC nations.

Originally Posted by Turbanator

. For some markets like Australia, they can even continue with V8 if we go by the recent comments from Toyota Australia.

Rumours abound, but most likely the 300 series won't come with the V8 diesel. The 6 cylinder diesel would come to the Australian market. The V8 diesel will continue to be sold in the LC70 since Australia has lax norms.

Originally Posted by Turbanator

For market like ours, they may offer V6 with hybrid as standard.

IMO, it would be the diesel that would come to India.
Though with more hybrid push, Toyota could use their flagship as a hybrid flag bearer.

[volkman10]

Originally Posted by DicKy

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The engine option that had the most vague rumours floating around.
From a rebored 3.3l version of the 2.8 GD engine.
To a brand new 3.3l V6 diesel.
To even a return to inline-6 with the help of Mazda. (Though Toyota-Mazda will surely work together for various projects, using a JV tech engine for Toyota's flagship would have been blasphemous. Though I really wish it got an inline-6 instead of a V6)

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The diesel will be indeed the 3.3l straight six turbo diesel that is being developed by MAZDA for the next gen. Mazda6 and CX-50.


Link

[volkman10]

Some leaked info. from the dealer in Middle East:

body stripe colour decal, seem to be a dealer option.

Link

[volkman10]

Rendered image of the New Land Cruiser based on the leaked images,






Link

[volkman10]

Information of the next Gen trickles in as launch nears:

This time on the alloy wheels, interior of the doors and chassis. Parts seems to be seen as it maybe exported for assembly.

Wheel size cud be 20" and of the highest variant ZX( of current 200 series)











Link

[CEF_Beasts]

J70 series Land Crusier 2023 also spotted.

[volkman10]

2022 Land Cruiser- body shell:






Link

[volkman10]

2022 Land Cruiser 300 rendered:

[volkman10]

Latest renderings of the Land Cruiser:

Rumoured to get finger print authentication for engine start.







Link

[Dieselite]

Originally Posted by volkman10

Latest renderings of the Land Cruiser:

Link

Absolutely droolworthy renders IMHO. One does not associate such styling with the Landcruiser usually and thats what makes it so appealing ! I hope this is close the actual final product !

[Turbanator]

I will take both of the above with a pinch of salt. The later one looks like a spruced highlander and the one above is too similar to existing with some changes to head and tail lamps. Most likely both are artist’s impressions based on the leaks.

Looking for something different from Toyota after 12 years. Am sure they will do better.