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Old 29th May 2020, 13:36   #211
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Engine noise is almost non existent or not intrusive at cruising speed. A slight thrum, if you really listen. The 3 cylinder bit is noticed only when you go hard on the throttle. This engine is poles apart compared to the old 1.2NA.

The engine specification suggests it is running close to the International Polo R Line spec tune. Loses out on torque for some reason. Else the engine is rated up to 200nm torque(2000-3500rpm) with a dsg gearbox.
I have a feeling they are reserving the full 200 NM torque tune of the 1.0 TSI for the Taigun and Kamiq, these SUVs in the lower trims will get the 1.0 TSI (Upper trims to have 1.5TSI). Having higher torque of 200 NM will position them competitively via-a- is the the hatches and sedans from VW and Skoda having the same engine.

On a different note, I would really like to see a comparo of the Skoda Rapid Rider 1.0 TSI versus the Polo Highline Plus with the same engine - would be interesting to see how they fare real-time to each other - the Polo with its lighter weight and shorter body via-a- is the rapid with its longer wheelbase and traditionally better engine tuning compared to the VW for equivalent cars.

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Even with an anemic 1.2 MPI, the car could use a sixth gear. I can't remember exactly but I believe 100kph comes in on my car at over 2500 rpm (might even be closer to 3000) - and it's pretty loud at that engine speed! I should add that these long smooth highways were all in TN!
I have a 1.6MPI and I also believe it should have the 6th cog. The noise only comes past 110kmph for me, It's smooth sailing in 100kmph but I still would loved one more gear for even better cruising experience.
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Default Re: VW India discontinues DSG in Polo & Vento 1.0 TSI, replaces with torque converter AT

There is a Highline+ AT listed at ~9.13L and the GT listed at ~9.6L on the VW website.
2 questions:
1. Does anybody know what the non-cosmetic differences between the two will be?
2. With that much of a premium over the TSI-MT-HL+ why can't they include the DSG?

I owned a GT TSI and loved it. Had to sell when things were not so good.
This was my ownership thread:
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-...lo-gt-tsi.html

Am considering the AT later this year; will sacrifice some "performance" for comfort. But would love to have the DSG with this engine.
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1. Does anybody know what the non-cosmetic differences between the two will be?
From the data in this thread, you'll end up losing the arm rest and the rear ac vents that come along with it, if you opt for the GT variant. VW has only updated their website but not their brochure.
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From the data in this thread, you'll end up losing the arm rest and the rear ac vents that come along with it, if you opt for the GT variant. VW has only updated their website but not their brochure.
There are rumors that the Highline Plus variant might be a manual and the GT is the only automatic in the entire lineup of Polos which seems logical.

I am in contact with a VW sales advisor in Kolkata. He is yet to provide me any info on the differences between the Highline Plus AT and GT versions.

If anyone has seen a Polo Highline Plus variant in it's AT avatar, please update us
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I am in contact with a VW sales advisor in Kolkata. He is yet to provide me any info on the differences between the Highline Plus AT and GT versions.

If anyone has seen a Polo Highline Plus variant in it's AT avatar, please update us
Hi.. I am considering the Highline Plus myself, since i prefer MTs. As per the sales manager of VW OSL E.M. Bypass, Kolkata, the GT will be available with a TC AT only, whereas the Highline Plus will be available in both MT and TC AT. As per him, they are offering a "GT cosmetic kit" with the Highline Plus for free for a limited period, along with Rs 13k cash discount, Rs 10k exchange bonus, and Rs 10k loyalty bonus.
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Highline+ variant will be available only with the 1.0 TSI & manual gearbox. The 1.0 TSI with the automatic gearbox is reserved for the GT variant.
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There are rumors that the Highline Plus variant might be a manual and the GT is the only automatic in the entire lineup of Polos which seems logical.
Looks like the changes have been made. The updated brochure of the Polo shows the Highline+ TSI with only the 6 speed manual gearbox.
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There doesn't seem to be an automatic on any brochure yet. But there is a displayed pricing on the website for a HL+ AT and a GT. The pricing premium for the AT over the manual does not make sense if only the gearbox cost is taken (+1L?!). It makes even less sense if that AT is mechanically identical to the GT.

There is something missing here. And I suspect that VW has not made up their mind.

I am still dreaming about a 115BHP 1.0 TSI + DSG combo at the about the same price as the old GT, with all the same "features" as the HL+.
The only thing I would like them to add over that, is automatic headlamps, (shouldn't they be able to use the sensor that works for the wipers?) and maybe projectors or LED.
I would pay for these options if VW put them up!! And I know so many would... and have.

I spoke to an SA and I don't think they have told the field force anything. They are still saying that the automatics won't be available for another 4 months. So might be a while before my dreams are shattered.
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Amazed at the confusion VW India have created over the simple job of creating accurate web sites and brochures. They have made a royal mess with the Polo variant information and also countless errors including the type of rear suspension on T-Roc web-site and brochures.

The design, parts specs, manufacturing and distribution process etc. are specified strictly and clearly from VW Germany. So the product is immaculately put together, is of high quality and everything works very well in it. Even the variants to be offered in India are probably already decided in Germany and all product information provided to the India team.

The one thing they leave to the Indian management team, is to create an accurate brochure and website - the local team has botched that simple job up royally! Well, a second thing they leave to the Indian management teams and gets ruined is the after-sales service.

They should fire the local marketing department entirely and use a personality-based selection test aligned to VW values of accuracy and attention to detail, to hire a new team. Or contract the job to auto enthusiasts

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Default Re: VW India discontinues DSG in Polo & Vento 1.0 TSI, replaces with torque converter AT

Should anyone buy a Polo now knowing the new version might come in 2022?

From the various reports, I understand that the first cars on the localised platform will come in 2021 and Polo will follow after that.
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Looks like the changes have been made. The updated brochure of the Polo shows the Highline+ TSI with only the 6 speed manual gearbox.
This was the case since day 1. Brochure always showed only Manual, it's the pricing section which points to Highline+ with AT.
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There doesn't seem to be an automatic on any brochure yet. But there is a displayed pricing on the website for a HL+ AT and a GT. The pricing premium for the AT over the manual does not make sense if only the gearbox cost is taken (+1L?!).
Agreed! AT should cost around 70-80k & DSG cost comes close to 1.1L. That means there is still price difference over MT. Only major feature that comes to my mind is the ESP. Then there could be few aesthetic ones such as stickers/cladding. Not sure if VW will add anything else - LED/DRL, Auto headlamps etc. .

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It's the pricing section which points to Highline+ with AT.
Yes, now that's the only tab which still shows the Highline+ AT. All other places no longer talk about the AT. VW has a messed up website at a time when most buyers would like to remain home and know about the car.

The technical specifications tab shows the following;
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The technical specifications tab shows the following;
Actually now the website shows 6 Speed Automatic ONLY under GT variant.So that clears it. Only GT will be getting AT where as Highline + variant will have to do with 6-MT. From the website i can see that even ESP is removed from feature list. That means 1.5 lakh difference just for AT
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Had taken a test drive of the 6 speed MT TSI last week. SA mentioned that the highline came only in manual. Only the GT TSI was auto. Got me confused as well, but I guess that seems to be the case after all.
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