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Old 8th June 2020, 14:38   #46
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I cannot predict how bringing the 1.6 MJD mill can turn out for Jeep atleast in India.

We have seen our own S-Cross selling more with a 1.3 MJD heart than the one with a 1.6.

Though I feel the price cannot be dramatically reduced, as the engine, atleast for now, has to be imported has it is not being put into any of the cars sold in India to make FCA to consider localisation of the engine, it can have the Compass to be the reason for the localisation, as usually some people just need a FWD with an adequate engine and it has a high chance of becoming a moderate success overnight.

If the Compass should be highly successful, we all know what Jeep should look into, the ASS.
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IMHO, it would make more sense for Jeep to provide 2 diesel engines - 1.6 & 2.0 and remove the petrol from the lineup. The 1.6 MJD if offered at equivalent prices of a Creta/Seltos should make a reasonable impact to their sales figures.
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So why are Jeep hesitant to launch a Creta/Seltos rival with the 1.6 D? With localisation, it could be launched at a decent price. With the Mid SUV being the buzz, Jeep should look to ride the wave. They can make hefty margins plus proper utilisation of their resources. I believe they are happy to be an Engine supplier.

I think FCA wanted to make India the export hub for the 2.0L diesel engine. Localising 1.6L diesel engine for India alone would have been a costly affair i guess.

But as you said, there would definitely be takers for the 1.6L D.
Maruti Suzuki would definitely snatch the engine. They have been strugling with their 1.5L diesel engine to meet BS-VI.
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IMHO, it would make more sense for Jeep to provide 2 diesel engines - 1.6 & 2.0 and remove the petrol from the lineup. The 1.6 MJD if offered at equivalent prices of a Creta/Seltos should make a reasonable impact to their sales figures.
IMO, it may not be very prudent to completely drop the petrol. I believe the Seltos sells a significant amount of petrol variants. For Jeep to exit the petrol side of the equation, will definitely hurt them.

What they really need is better petrol engine+gearbox combo. The current dual clutch is incredibly slow, and the petrol manual is in a variant that most wouldn't even consider, and if even they did, it's impossible to get one for a test drive.

Unfortunately, there's no rumours or spy-pics of any upcoming changes to the internals. Only the facelift is on the horizon, which isn't really required IMO since the compass is still the best looking in its class.
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The Japanese Jeep Compass without the facelift comes with these nice under cushion storage of the seat base. I wonder why it’s not there in our domestic Jeep Compass, especially when the seat contour is the same like in the trailhawk.

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Old 22nd June 2020, 12:07   #51
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Spotted testing in the US (Michigan). The rear end seems slightly different. Cant spot any other changes. Moparinsiders are referring to this as a 2022 model.

https://moparinsiders.com/caught-202...ichigan-roads/

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The Japanese Jeep Compass without the facelift comes with these nice under cushion storage of the seat base. I wonder why itís not there in our domestic Jeep Compass...t
I wonder why isn't this a regular feature (or at least an option) in all C-SUVs and above? How much would be the approximate price increase?
This is a good feature.
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Jeep Compass facelift(minor?), now spied in India:

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a new 1.3-litre turbo petrol engine has been introduced for global markets. It comes in two states of tune: 128bhp/270Nm (6-speed manual( and 148bhp/270Nm (9-speed DCT). The Indian market may not get it as Jeep India has already updated the old and more powerful 1.4-litre turbo petrol motor (161bhp/250Nm) to BS6 specifications. Just like before, petrol variants would be FWD while top-end diesel choices come in AWD format
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Jeep Compass is ridiculously overpriced for what it offers, especially the petrol variants. Instead of launching a facelift with minor changes they should re-work on their pricing strategy to boost their sales chart.
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I wonder why isn't this a regular feature (or at least an option) in all C-SUVs and above? How much would be the approximate price increase?
This is a good feature.
Ford Fusion had this feature.
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Launching in the first half of 2021, more spy shots of the Updated Jeep Compass in India:

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India-spec model will feature a comprehensive cosmetic update inside and out. So you can expect a fair amount of updates from the upcoming SUV
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expect redesigned bumpers, new LED headlamps and tail lamps. It could also come in a new colour palette.
Could be updated with the following,

- It could feature redesigned bumpers, new LED headlamps and tail lamps.

- It may come with Jeep’s new UConnect 5 infotainment system with connected car technology.

- Likely to get a new 1.3-litre turbo-petrol engine.


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major update could be under the hood. It is likely to be powered by FCA’s new 1.3-litre turbo-petrol engine that’s offered in two states of tune: 130PS (6-speed MT) and 150PS (DCT). These figures are lower than the current 1.4-litre unit which puts out 163PS
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Why did they bother with the camouflage ? I would not have noticed even if was undisguised?
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What they really need is better petrol engine+gearbox combo. The current dual clutch is incredibly slow, and the petrol manual is in a variant that most wouldn't even consider, and if even they did, it's impossible to get one for a test drive.
Well I will agree that a better engine and gearbox is more than welcome, however the problem is not slow dual clutch. I own one, and have driven about 10000 kms. I am not sure what do you mean by "incredibly slow" dual clutch. If you are comparing it with DSG, yest it is slower. However, it is on par with other DSG's in market and faster than most AMT, TC.

In fact the problem, I see is that it is over eager most of the time, whenever you press the gas. It downshifts 2-3 gears at once. Although I enjoy it. At town speed, you will not even feel any gear changes and every thing is smooth.

The real issue is the way engine is mapped. The torque wave starts late and there is considerable turbo lag below 2000 rpm. So, till 20=30kmph, you will feel the weight of the car. However post that it runs like no one's business. It does 0-100 in 10.2 seconds which is a good number. Just 0.5 slower than Seltos DCT. I know people who have overcome this as well. The engine remaps are available in plenty and even Stage 1 remap can give 200bhp/350 Nm, with 0-100 under 8 seconds. You just need some cash and heart to risk the warranty..

Coming back to the facelift launch. Frankly the changes are so less, that it is barely noticeable in pictures. The 1.3 liter petrol engine produces lesser power, so I am not really gung-ho about this move. Jeep now needs a blockbuster sooner than ever.
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I am not sure what do you mean by "incredibly slow" dual clutch. If you are comparing it with DSG, yest it is slower. However, it is on par with other DSG's in market and faster than most AMT, TC.
You are correct that I'm comparing it to other DCTs(specifically VW's) and not AMTs/CVTs.

I recall putting my foot down to overtake and nothing really happening. It could be the turbo lag as you said, but in the case of the VWs, the DSG did well to mask the lag(if any). The Jeep's DCT seemed to exasperate it. Of course, it was a brief test drive and it's probable that I haven't understood the nuances of the gearbox as you have.

Unfortnately, the 1.3's DCT will have even more riding on its shoulders since the petrol MT will be gimped not only on features but on power as well. No one's going to consider the MT this time around.

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The 1.3 liter petrol engine produces lesser power, so I am not really gung-ho about this move.
I have a feeling the new car will actually be faster despite the mild reduction in power. Quite likely turbo lag would've been reduced and the torque curve flattened.
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