[TusharK]

The Honda CR-V diesel has been discontinued in India. The SUV is no longer listed on the company's official website. The only variant that is available at the moment is the petrol two-wheel drive, which is priced at Rs. 28,27,001 (ex-showroom, Delhi).



The fifth-generation Honda CR-V was launched in October 2018. The diesel engine was offered with optional all-wheel drive system. It was powered by a 1.6-litre, 4-cylinder diesel engine that developed 118 BHP @ 4,000 rpm and 300 Nm of torque @ 2,000 rpm. It was mated to a 9-speed automatic transmission with paddle shifters.

The petrol variant is powered by a 2.0-litre, 4-cylinder unit that puts out 152 BHP @ 6,500 rpm and 189 Nm @ 4,300 rpm and comes paired with a continuously variable transmission (CVT). It does not get an all-wheel drive option.

Link to Team-BHP News

[aadya]

RIP. Better the shameful variant is out of Honda's offerings. Its just a rip-off by the Honda milking the brand image and thereby spoiling the brand image. If somebody has bought this variant they should seriously rejig there entire portfolio.

[PrideRed]

This was bound to happen. That lame diesel on CRV was never going to work, appeared as if Honda launched just for the sake of it. I am pretty sure the Civic diesel will soon be axed too, or has it already been?

[CarguyNish]

Originally Posted by PrideRed

I am pretty sure the Civic diesel will soon be axed too, or has it already been?

CR-V Diesel and Civic Diesel were discontinued from April 1st 2020, the day BS6 Norms came into place.

The same was discussed on another thread which can be accessed here (Honda India : The Way Forward)

[Reinhard]

Here is my anticipated audience reaction for this news from general readers and non members (who aren't too enthusiastic about car updates) -

• 50% - There was a CR-V Diesel?
• 20% - Was/is the CR-V still on sale in India? I thought it was discontinued a year ago already.
• 20% - Hmm...When did I last see a CR-V I wonder? (Absolutely no regard to whether it is on sale or now discontinued.)
• 10% - What is CR-V?

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

The diesel option was highly overpriced. We received the cheaper 120hp diesel compared to international markets, but still priced closer to 40 lakhs onroad.

Petrol option isn't any better either! It misses out on AWD and 3rd row seats compared to the diesel. The previous generation was available with a 2.4L option that produced 187 BHP and 226 Nm of torque. It also had an AWD layout which the current generation lacks. Honda skipped both and still the on-road prices also increased by almost 40% compared to the last generation 2.0 variants.

No wonder our crossover crazy market wasn't impressed with the 5th generation CR-V despite the diesel option.

[Shreyans_Jain]

This edition of the CRV will go down in history as one of the biggest flops in the Indian market ever. Not only has Honda managed to ruin the reputation of the vehicle, they have also disappointed a large number of fans and potential buyers. They should with no delay bring in the proper twin turbo 160hp BS6 version of this engine and launch it with 2wd at around 27-30L tops. Then, they can expect to sell in three digits every month. The market for a spacious and reliable premium 5 seater is there.

[dr.aviansh]

There was a time around 2006 when the second generation CR-V (second for indian market) was launched. People were drooling over that beauty. It was a time when Honda started making a radical improvement in their designs just like Hyundai did in the last decade. No more, were the Honda’s just a little better looking Japanese. With the 2008 Accord and 2006 Civic, we all know how ambitious the company had become. The Mitsubishi’s, Chevrolet Optra, Skoda Octavia and even the 2002-2008 Toyota Corolla suddenly looked bland when put against their respective Honda rivals, leave aside the Hyundai Terracan/Sonata Embera or the Nissan Teana/X-Trail.

But success was short lived for Honda, as i recall that in 2010-2011 the fuel prices had sky-rocketed and people started looking for diesels. That’s also when the Audi’s and BMW’s started getting more popular as their basic sedans had the options of common rail TD’s. Toyota Fortuner was the new king of the premium SUV and people had started forgetting the CR-V right then.

By 2011, it was the Germans, Skoda, even VW Passat ruling over the entry level luxury. So since then, the bigger Honda’s have been failing miserably generation after generation. Nobody remembers the third generation of Honda Accord or the 2012-2018 Honda CR-V.

[Vid6639]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Petrol option isn't any better either! It misses out on AWD and 3rd row seats compared to the diesel. The previous generation was available with a 2.4L option that produced 187 BHP and 226 Nm of torque. It also had an AWD layout which the current generation lacks. Honda skipped both and still the on-road prices also increased by almost 40% compared to the last generation 2.0 variants.

No wonder our crossover crazy market wasn't impressed with the 5th generation CR-V despite the diesel option.

Petrol was priced a couple of lakhs higher but it was very nice. Infact the top pick for petrol SUV in ~35L range. Honda should have priced it lower and closer to 30L than 35L.

That said, AWD missing was fine cause it was a waste on a CR-V which was urban use only. The AWD would have impacted economy with no benefit.

The 2.0L with the CVT was decent performance. The 2.4L was good but the 5 speed AT was not.

And I was glad they got the 5 seater. The 5 seater had better rear legroom and headroom vs the 7 seater and was the best in ride comfort at the back. It was ideal chauffeur driven SUV in that segment. You got a corolla or Civic or City and want to upgrade, the CR-V was a good car.

It was let down by pricing and not the product.

The diesel on the other hand was disappointing on most levels; performance, NVH, 3rd row was useless, unreliable transmission and finally silly pricing.

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by Vid6639

Infact the top pick for petrol SUV in ~35L range. Honda should have priced it lower and closer to 30L than 35L.

The last generation should have been the perfect then - with the price even lesser, but it also never sold in good numbers either.

Pricing obviously is a big culprit. I agree and I have also mentioned above - but a petrol SUV in itself is a wrong choice in that price bracket. With the previous two generations on sale in India - all the market could ask for was a diesel. Even if the running is less, people prefer diesels for their big SUVs - that's not changing drastically even in the BS6 era.

Petrol started off with this big disadvantage. And then tell customers that petrol loses out on top-end features compared to the diesel, that's another big no for most people - irrespective of whether it would have been very useful or not.

At these prices - it's more about 'want' rather than 'need' anyways.

[Vid6639]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

The last generation should have been the perfect then - with the price even lesser, but it also never sold in good numbers either.

Pricing obviously is a big culprit. I agree and I have also mentioned above - but a petrol SUV in itself is a wrong choice in that price bracket. With the previous two generations on sale in India - all the market could ask for was a diesel. Even if the running is less, people prefer diesels for their big SUVs - that's not changing drastically even in the BS6 era.

No the last generation was far from perfect. For starters the styling was terrible with the humpback design which nobody liked. Secondly the interiors were bland and not great quality vs the current one which is like going from a 3 star hotel to 5 star. Thirdly the old one had no features. Heck even hid lights and touch screen were added much later on for a car priced at 24L ex showroom for the 2.4.

It was totally a disaster vs the current one which as a product has little negatives except for the price.

The crv trump card always has been petrol since there was always a demand in cities and premium buyers.

Besides they have the diesel in 1.6L engine option with a higher power tune and I’m willing to put an educated guess that while performance will be better, drive ability will not with turbo lag and lazier throttle response. So it would have been pointless to get that as well since people would be put off by the 1.6L anyways.

[84.monsoon]

I think there will be some very good deals on used diesels in a couple of years. Based on all the reviews, the 1.6 diesel though not a scorcher, has very good low end response, a 0-100 time of around 11.2 seconds and great fuel efficiency. The 9-speed auto is supposed to be excellent as well. Would be a good machine for leisurely weekend drives out of town, with plenty of space and creature comforts, if a good used piece can be had for a reasonable price.

[BashfulKlutz]

I took a look at the cetane numbers provided in this document, and realised that by virtue of our Bharat Stage standards being based on Euro emission standards, the cetane numbers and cetane indices are same as those of Euro standards (checked on Wikipedia under the "typical values" heading). With these values being similar, why do manufacturers cite "fuel quality issues" as justification for not launching their >100 bhp/litre twin-turbo diesel engines here? Do they refer to the possibility of adulterated fuel being sold in fuel stations located on highways or in rural regions? Honda should seriously have provided the 160 bhp diesel version from the very beginning, considering the price at which they are selling this crossover. I really don't want Honda to leave India, but their recent ignorance to market trends does seem to provide a worrying hint of that.

[ajmat]

Originally Posted by PrideRed

This was bound to happen. That lame diesel on CRV was never going to work, appeared as if Honda launched just for the sake of it. I am pretty sure the Civic diesel will soon be axed too, or has it already been?

The Civic diesel no longer shows up on the site. Whatever, it lost in outright power to the petrol, it made up for in response, control and torque. Our back to back comparison on Nandi Hills showed to it to be much superior performance wise.

Whoops - off topic - back to the CRV

[AbhiJ]

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

That engine did not deserve to be sold in a 30 Lakh+ car.