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Originally Posted by PrasannaDhana Hello BHPians who own a gen 6 Jetta, what is your opinion on a 2015 Jetta Highline AT with 1.3 lakh km on ido? The owner is an enthusiast and is asking 8.5 lakhs for it. What should I be looking at, when I see the car/ checking the service records? |
1.3L is quite a high mileage but if the car has been treated with love and care with maintenance and preventive maintenance done at the showroom on time, then worth a look for sure.
The 1st page in this thread has links to loads of information, that you will need to spend an entire day going through.
Another great thread on a DSG Jetta is below
Graajas thread on his Jetta DSG (Platinum Grey VW Jetta 2.0 TDI Highline DSG comes home EDIT: Sold!)
Some quotes on my ownership thread are below to help.
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Originally Posted by Lobogris I would absolutely prefer a DSG or any other automatic over a manual any day. The DSG is so quick that it is faster than any manual in gear shifting. It is truly a joy to drive.
As far as checking it on a used car is concerned, you can drive it and see if the gear shifts are smooth. Are there any jerks or hesitation? Try to suddenly accelerate and stop and see if there are any issues. In addition, you can check with VW to see if DSG service was ever performed. You can also take it to a service center and have them check the DSG filter. It is located in the engine bay just next to the battery and it is real easy to open a screw to remove its cover. Once open, you can see if the filter is in good shape. If it is squished or deformed, that indicates some problem in the transmission as excess pressure is present in the system. In addition, check the colour of the fluid. It should not be totally black as it is sort of red or amber when new. If it looks very black and dirty, that means the transmission has not been serviced for a long time. That doesn't automatically means it is bad. You can yourself get the DSG fluid changed but just be more cautious as it means the person hasn't cared for the vehicle. If possible, try to drive the vehicle in stop and go traffic for a while. After doing this, open the engine bay and see if you can smell any transmission fluid. That can also indicate transmission overheating. Finally, you can have a service center with a scanning tool test the car, The scanning tool will find any DSG related errors as well as other issues that the vehicle might have.
Another thing to look out for is the DMF {dual mass flywheel}. This often goes bad in VAG cars after about 70k kms and costs about 50k to change. If you feel any shudder during acceleration or worse hear noises then it could mean a bad DMF.
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Originally Posted by burjiis Hey Viraat,
The car will chose you more than you chosing the car. If she wants you to have her, she will behave extremely well with you, no matter what her issues are.
You must do all the fact finding about her, but do it with the intention of getting her for a better bargain rather than letting her go. If she is not that well kept, see it as an opportunity to give her some more needed love. This intention itself will ensure that she will always be in gratitude to you. She will never fail on you in those crucial moments no matter what her expenses may pan out to be.
Having said that, it is important to know what kind of expenses you could incur. Some of the things that you should look out for are:
1. Would be best if she is less than 4 years old and even better if you have extended warranty. If there is no extended warranty, they still change parts under goodwill warranty if all your service records are intact and you have never chaged a part outside(including battery).
2. Her high speed poise. This is one of her greatest traits. You need to feel that too in your drive even though you are graduating from the brilliant Octavia.
3. Braking at high speed. In a DSG there is zero brakebfade even from 200. Infact due to the automatic engine braking, the brake force increases further rather than fading.
4. Alloys whether they are bent. You will have to put it on a lathe to fix it.
5. Service history, oil changes.
6. Look out for the sump guard under the front bumper. If that is broken or loosely fitted due to minor scrapes and hits, it can hamper the airflow and can cause your engine to heat up. That simple sump guard can set you back by 20K. Hence when you drive especially at high speed, do look out for the engine temperature remaining stable at 90 degrees.
7. Door lock errors
8. Apart from the above, get the owner to drive while you sit aside and ask him to stop on an incline and come out of the car. Check how he puts the car into "P". If he releases the brake after putting it into P before applying the hand brake, then your owner has been putting a lot of load on the transmission even while the car was still.
8. Check the roof linings. Known to give way in our heat.
9. Remove the engine cover and look out for an oil spill.
10. The rear AC grille is prone to damage. Check that out.
11. Lookout for uneven inner tire wear by putting the car up on a ramp at a local car wash area.Will show signs of weak suspension/alignment.
12. Check how the car starts. If you can hear the jerk of the engine within the driver's bay, the car probably has weak flywheel(60K)/ mounts (20K) which can only be replaced.
Regards,
Burjiis
Regards,
Burjiis |
Heres what I would consider.
1. The owner, his behaviour and attitude towards the car are extremely important, i feel. So here gut feel plays a very major role. if something doesnt feel right, walk away. Extended warranty would be great to have. Check if any insurance and warranty claims have been made.
2. I would reject the car straightaway if the DSG gearbox has been replaced under warranty and reconsider only if the car felt absolutely fabulous to drive, despite the change.
3. Ideally all servicing should have been done in the showroom and you must get the car checked out at a VW showroom and inspect the underchassis as well.
2. Bodywork and panels must be immaculate with no repaint (dents if any should be explained). Ideally alloys should be in great condition without scuff marks and should not be damaged. Interiors should also be in great condition.
3. Tyre wear should be even and remaining life must be calculated - new Michelin PS3 STs are approx Rs 13,000 each on the company website.
4. Battery must be checked and if replaced by owner recently, then that is a saving.
5. At this mileage, ideally the water pump and timing belt would have been changed.
6. Condition of shock absorbers important as the excellent highway ride of Jetta is a major plus. An upgrade to the highly rated and excellent Bilstein B6 will cost almost a lakh. A remap should cost you approx Rs 30,000 and well worth it.
7. AC vents (front and rear) are prone to breakage and expensive to replace.
8. Door locks tend to fail, so check if they have been replaced.