Moving a car between States - Transfer, road tax, refund etc.

Technocrat · 12th April 2007, 15:39

Yeah me has been to Goa a couple fo times & never paid any such tax.

Btw A friends 5 year old KL registered santro's Paper were confiscated by Police last week & they are now demanding around 20k-30k(Not too sure about the figure) as tax. poor guy was planning to sell the car in coming month

moralfibre · 12th April 2007, 15:52

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Originally Posted by Technocrat

Btw A friends 5 year old KL registered santro's Paper were confiscated by Police last week & they are now demanding around 20k-30k(Not too sure about the figure) as tax.

On what grounds did they confiscate papers? Did they give him a challan? Is the car left with him?

By any chance he knew how to handle the situation with cops? I have people in my office who are using out of MH registered bikes and they always give an excuse and make a slip. Need to warn them

Technocrat · 12th April 2007, 16:02

Yeah he is a pakka mumbai ka chokra

he was coming back from somewhere was stopped on a signal or someplace(dont know exact detail) & was asked for papers, next thing he knew the papers are confiscated. He has the car. Actually thats his dad's car who was in Karnatak(Sorry its KA registered car & not KL) He tried explaining that he can show his dad's resiential proof & other stuff to prove that the car is here only momentarily But nothing worked.

He is no mood to pay up after all these years. Btw he was wondering if he can report loss of papers in KA & get new ones & then sell the car. Although I have advised him against it but I was wondering isnt that possible? I mean unless the cops go on searching the Car(since they have original papers they can)

Btw moral of the story do not carry original papers

moralfibre · 12th April 2007, 16:15

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Originally Posted by Technocrat

Btw moral of the story do not carry original papers

And end up giving your car instead

LOL.

spadival · 12th April 2007, 16:32

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Originally Posted by moralfibre

And end up giving your car instead

LOL.

True. Thats even worse. BTW, Does MH have provision of paying quarterly tax instead of life time?

Technocrat · 12th April 2007, 16:41

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esteem_lover · 12th April 2007, 16:50

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Originally Posted by Technocrat

Btw moral of the story do not carry original papers

But, did he take a receipt for this ?

Technocrat · 12th April 2007, 17:14

This am not aware of

spadival · 13th April 2007, 12:59

Yippe!!

.. I got all my documents back today from the RTA after payment of the quarterly road tax. And the best part is that tax is effective till 30th June 2007.

Also, I found out why the RTO had a sudden change of heart about the availability of quarterly tax for ordinary mortals like me. I had emailed the Transport commisioner, Govt of AP, and it seems he looked into the issue.

Moral of the story: Knowledge is power - You just have to be aware of what you are entitled to, under the law of the land. RTO or any govt offical can not just make up some new rule, lie blatently about it and think they can get away with it !!

itwasntme · 26th August 2008, 10:19

I am considering a move to Mumbai from Bangalore with my 1 year old Tata Indica Xeta & Chevrolet Aveo.

As far as I understand:

1. I can drive down myself - just need to carry all original papers with me.
2. I can legally drive for 3/6/12 months (unsure?) in Maharashtra (MH) without registering.
3. If staying beyond the maximum time mentioned in 2. above, I need to ask Bangalore RTO for a NOC. Think I should probably do this anyway when going to MH.
4. Once I get the NOC, it stays valid for 45 (?) days. I need to register your car in MH within that time and send back proof of the same to Bangalore RTO in Form CMV16 for pro-rata refund
5. After that only God can help with expediting the actual pro-rata refund :-)

Now what I don't know is HOW DO MH RTOs CALCULATE ROAD TAX & ALLIED COSTS FOR (NON-MH) USED CARS BEING RE-REGISTERED IN MH? Is it a %age rate on the depreciated value etc?

Mumbaikars: please help!

Only if I know the costs involved can I decide in selling the Indica here in Bangalore. It's already listed in the TBHP classifieds though

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itwasntme · 26th August 2008, 13:04

Following on from my post above, I checked with the WIAA and this is what I have got:

All on invoice value regardless of current age of vehicle

1. 7.5% road tax
2. 4% octroi
3. 12% entry tax

I can understand 1. but are 2. & 3. correct? My cars are 17 & 14 months old. Looks like I need to sell them both here in Bangalore :-(

jango · 26th August 2008, 13:37

In B'lore most cops do go behind out of state registered bikes but very rarely have i seen them go after cars.

Couple of my friends who have KL reg car here in b'lore always make sure that they have some receipts from petrol bunks from kerala and o'coz PUC certificate issued from kerala....but they have rarely been caught by cops for tax, rather they have been stopped many a times for drink and drive checks

hrag · 26th August 2008, 15:10

I drive a TN registered car in Bangalore on a daily basis. I have never been stopped by the traffic police for a TN number plate. But then, if I am stopped, I am fluent in Kannada and my car has always come from Chennai in the last 3 weeks (worst case) - always keep the toll plaza receipts and latest Madras fuel bill. I also have my old Chennai mobile (active) with me always.

Note: I have plans to upgrade and the new car (when that happens) will be KA registered.

joecherian · 27th August 2008, 10:07

I have a question to all advocate bhp-ians. Will it possible to file a public interest litigation in high court or supreme court against this different road tax rates.As all of us know, india is opening up and hence people will have to travel across states for various purposes and that way, can it be filed as a matter of fundamental right - right to move freely in the county in ones own vehicle without fear of money minded cops and RTOs (I may be a bit over worded on this but can't help.) . if the supreme court can direct the central govt for a uniform road tax across india which can be paid anywhere in the country,dont you think it will be a good move for all those people who work out of their home states (and also to save some bucks from greedy govts like ours in KA) ?

sathee46 · 27th August 2008, 12:11

I dont think having a non 'KA' car will be problem in bangalore, the cops are fond of the 2 wheelers most of the time. I use both car & Bike in bangalore with a TN number plate. I have never been stopped when i'm on my car, but a number of times when in my bike. When they stop the bike they will eat your time to check almost all the papers you have and even you need to have a pollution certificate.

So i had to pay the tax for my bike, but i still run with my TN board, the bike is not re-registered. So you have an option of just paying the Road Tax and retain your number, It works out cheap too. It would be much easier if your taking your vehicle back to your place but at the same time it will be a pain because anyways the cops still stop the vehicle to check the papers.

As i did this 2 years back i dont remember much on this, would get you more details if needed.

12th April 2007, 15:39	#31
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	Yeah me has been to Goa a couple fo times & never paid any such tax. Btw A friends 5 year old KL registered santro's Paper were confiscated by Police last week & they are now demanding around 20k-30k(Not too sure about the figure) as tax. poor guy was planning to sell the car in coming month
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12th April 2007, 16:02	#33
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	Yeah he is a pakka mumbai ka chokra he was coming back from somewhere was stopped on a signal or someplace(dont know exact detail) & was asked for papers, next thing he knew the papers are confiscated. He has the car. Actually thats his dad's car who was in Karnatak(Sorry its KA registered car & not KL) He tried explaining that he can show his dad's resiential proof & other stuff to prove that the car is here only momentarily But nothing worked. He is no mood to pay up after all these years. Btw he was wondering if he can report loss of papers in KA & get new ones & then sell the car. Although I have advised him against it but I was wondering isnt that possible? I mean unless the cops go on searching the Car(since they have original papers they can) Btw moral of the story do not carry original papers
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12th April 2007, 16:41	#36
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	Arre Bhai Photocopier naam ka ek device hota hai usse use karo
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12th April 2007, 17:14	#38
Technocrat Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: GTA Posts: 14,813 Thanked: 2,700 Times	This am not aware of
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13th April 2007, 12:59	#39
spadival Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Melbourne, AU Posts: 1,773 Thanked: 26 Times View My Garage	Yippe!! .. I got all my documents back today from the RTA after payment of the quarterly road tax. And the best part is that tax is effective till 30th June 2007. Also, I found out why the RTO had a sudden change of heart about the availability of quarterly tax for ordinary mortals like me. I had emailed the Transport commisioner, Govt of AP, and it seems he looked into the issue. Moral of the story: Knowledge is power - You just have to be aware of what you are entitled to, under the law of the land. RTO or any govt offical can not just make up some new rule, lie blatently about it and think they can get away with it !!
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26th August 2008, 10:19	#40
itwasntme Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 6,976 Thanked: 12,527 Times View My Garage	Registration & road-tax for non-MH used car in MH I am considering a move to Mumbai from Bangalore with my 1 year old Tata Indica Xeta & Chevrolet Aveo. As far as I understand: 1. I can drive down myself - just need to carry all original papers with me. 2. I can legally drive for 3/6/12 months (unsure?) in Maharashtra (MH) without registering. 3. If staying beyond the maximum time mentioned in 2. above, I need to ask Bangalore RTO for a NOC. Think I should probably do this anyway when going to MH. 4. Once I get the NOC, it stays valid for 45 (?) days. I need to register your car in MH within that time and send back proof of the same to Bangalore RTO in Form CMV16 for pro-rata refund 5. After that only God can help with expediting the actual pro-rata refund :-) Now what I don't know is HOW DO MH RTOs CALCULATE ROAD TAX & ALLIED COSTS FOR (NON-MH) USED CARS BEING RE-REGISTERED IN MH? Is it a %age rate on the depreciated value etc? Mumbaikars: please help! Only if I know the costs involved can I decide in selling the Indica here in Bangalore. It's already listed in the TBHP classifieds though . Last edited by itwasntme : 26th August 2008 at 10:21. Reason: Typo
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26th August 2008, 13:04	#41
itwasntme Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: BANGALORE Posts: 6,976 Thanked: 12,527 Times View My Garage	Following on from my post above, I checked with the WIAA and this is what I have got: All on invoice value regardless of current age of vehicle 1. 7.5% road tax 2. 4% octroi 3. 12% entry tax I can understand 1. but are 2. & 3. correct? My cars are 17 & 14 months old. Looks like I need to sell them both here in Bangalore :-(
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26th August 2008, 13:37	#42
jango BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New York & kotayam Posts: 800 Thanked: 23 Times View My Garage	In B'lore most cops do go behind out of state registered bikes but very rarely have i seen them go after cars. Couple of my friends who have KL reg car here in b'lore always make sure that they have some receipts from petrol bunks from kerala and o'coz PUC certificate issued from kerala....but they have rarely been caught by cops for tax, rather they have been stopped many a times for drink and drive checks
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26th August 2008, 15:10	#43
hrag BANNED Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Bangalore / Madras Posts: 1,982 Thanked: 31 Times	I drive a TN registered car in Bangalore on a daily basis. I have never been stopped by the traffic police for a TN number plate. But then, if I am stopped, I am fluent in Kannada and my car has always come from Chennai in the last 3 weeks (worst case) - always keep the toll plaza receipts and latest Madras fuel bill. I also have my old Chennai mobile (active) with me always. Note: I have plans to upgrade and the new car (when that happens) will be KA registered.
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27th August 2008, 10:07	#44
joecherian BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Almhult,Sweden Posts: 550 Thanked: 80 Times View My Garage	I have a question to all advocate bhp-ians. Will it possible to file a public interest litigation in high court or supreme court against this different road tax rates.As all of us know, india is opening up and hence people will have to travel across states for various purposes and that way, can it be filed as a matter of fundamental right - right to move freely in the county in ones own vehicle without fear of money minded cops and RTOs (I may be a bit over worded on this but can't help.) . if the supreme court can direct the central govt for a uniform road tax across india which can be paid anywhere in the country,dont you think it will be a good move for all those people who work out of their home states (and also to save some bucks from greedy govts like ours in KA) ?
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27th August 2008, 12:11	#45
sathee46 BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Chennai Posts: 465 Thanked: 8 Times View My Garage	I dont think having a non 'KA' car will be problem in bangalore, the cops are fond of the 2 wheelers most of the time. I use both car & Bike in bangalore with a TN number plate. I have never been stopped when i'm on my car, but a number of times when in my bike. When they stop the bike they will eat your time to check almost all the papers you have and even you need to have a pollution certificate. So i had to pay the tax for my bike, but i still run with my TN board, the bike is not re-registered. So you have an option of just paying the Road Tax and retain your number, It works out cheap too. It would be much easier if your taking your vehicle back to your place but at the same time it will be a pain because anyways the cops still stop the vehicle to check the papers. As i did this 2 years back i dont remember much on this, would get you more details if needed.
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