Palio Stile Launch

hydrashok · 5th April 2007, 15:46

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Originally Posted by amtak

So one more Acronym now..? OFP and NFP :o)

Noooooooo!

The new one is a Stile, and not a Palio. Let the Palio name continue, unblemished.

pawan_pullarwar · 5th April 2007, 16:10

One of my friend has driven the new Palio Stile 1.1 and he was able to pull the car 100 KMPH at 2nd Gear. Do you guys think it is underpower ?

greatDrive · 5th April 2007, 17:43

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Originally Posted by pawan_pullarwar

One of my friend has driven the new Palio Stile 1.1 and he was able to pull the car 100 KMPH at 2nd Gear. Do you guys think it is underpower ?

Now that speaks about the fiat/Europian technology

cartech · 5th April 2007, 17:56

Specs for old Palio 1.6 has length of 3763. Palio stile web site states it is 3825 while wheel base is same at 2373. Does this mean more boot space or error in spec?

Sush · 5th April 2007, 18:10

Hi Guys,

I also checked out the Fiat website. It just talks about the Stile and Adventure. What about Petra? Any idea why its not mentioned there?

moralfibre · 5th April 2007, 18:14

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Originally Posted by Sush

Hi Guys,

I also checked out the Fiat website. It just talks about the Stile and Adventure. What about Petra? Any idea why its not mentioned there?

Petra stands discontinued.

RX135 · 5th April 2007, 18:26

I tend to agree with Amit. Fiat seems to be talking, and more importantly doing, many things right this time.

However, improving A/S/S is a real uphill task and far far easier said than done.

Fiat seems to have started marketing Stile in print media, which is a good thing but barely sufficient. It would really need sustained and focussed efforts. It is very important to increase the road presence in early days. I am surprised that there are no advt. on TV channels. Fiat needs to understand that they are not Honda, who doesn't need to market in India. They are "Fiat India" and unless, they go all out on marketing front in early stage, Stile will meet same fate as other Fiat cars.

They should be focusing on marketing a) mileage AKA FE, b) low maintenance, c) space, comfort, looks (in that order).

sivadas · 5th April 2007, 19:32

Here is the Bangalore price list of Palio, Getz, Aveo U-VA and Indica. Nothing can beat Indica's VFM, but Tata was never targeting this segment with xeta

. I have put it here because some one was comparing the bhps of these. Now you can do the comparison.

Palio Stile

SL 352874

SLE 373030

SLX 393296

Sport 434848

Getz Prime

1.1 GLE 3,88,852

1.1 GVS 4,21,208

1.3 GLS 4,90,400

1.3 GLX 5,25,508

Aveo U-VA

Base 399825

LS 440213

LT 480263

Indica Xeta

GL-BS III 2,52,635

GLE-BS III 2,76,610

GLS-BS III 2,95,623

GLG-BSIII 3,18,980

GLX-BS III 3,46,770

By the way, I have really liked the new looks of Palio.

ported_head · 5th April 2007, 23:43

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Originally Posted by pawan_pullarwar

One of my friend has driven the new Palio Stile 1.1 and he was able to pull the car 100 KMPH at 2nd Gear. Do you guys think it is underpower ?

What are the Stile's gear ratios? It's 57 BHP pulling a car that weighs one tonne, depends on what your definition of underpowered is. I find the Swift inadequate too in certain situations, and it's got about 30 BHP more pulling the tonne.

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Originally Posted by greatDrive

Now that speaks about the fiat/Europian technology

Been there done that already by the Esteem and the Swift.

v1p3r · 6th April 2007, 00:24

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Originally Posted by greatDrive

Now that speaks about the fiat/Europian technology

I really doubt their ratios are this long. The car will be in serious trouble if they are. The stock Palio 1.2 only pulls to 80 in 2nd, as does the 1.6 GTX. Technology has nothing to do with it, greatdrive. It's just a question of adding or subtracting a few teeth to a gear.

roms · 6th April 2007, 00:49

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Originally Posted by v1p3r

I really doubt their ratios are this long. The car will be in serious trouble if they are. The stock Palio 1.2 only pulls to 80 in 2nd, as does the 1.6 GTX. Technology has nothing to do with it, greatdrive. It's just a question of adding or subtracting a few teeth to a gear.

A few members of Fiat Club India test drove the car during the launch on 2nd. They did mention that the car is a bit sluggish in the 2nd gear but crosses 100 kmph.So it seems the 2nd cog is indeed that long.According to them,3rd is shorter and has good punch.Need to get hands on that Palio 1.1's manual to see what the ratios are like.

hell_rider · 6th April 2007, 00:57

we are talking here on a number of threads about multiple new launches, almost all of them in the same segment, without having a lot of relevant information, torque curves, gear ratios etc. don't you guys think so ???

cartech · 6th April 2007, 10:20

What is the fate of Palio 1.9D? Fiat web site does not mention it at all!!

typeOnegative · 6th April 2007, 10:22

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Originally Posted by cartech

What is the fate of Palio 1.9D? Fiat web site does not mention it at all!!

I think it will be left out. The Tatas would have made an offer that Fiat could not refuse, if you get what I mean. Expect the oil burners on more upscale Fiat models. Where there is no competition to the Tata portfolio.

w 12 · 6th April 2007, 11:18

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Originally Posted by sivadas

Here is the Bangalore price list of Palio, Getz, Aveo U-VA and Indica.

Buddy, thx for the comparo. Are all these prices Ex- Showroom , Bangalore OR On the road , Bangalore ? ( inclusive of taxes, registration, insurance )

Thx.

5th April 2007, 16:10	#182
pawan_pullarwar BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Pune - Now in Munich, Germany Posts: 778 Thanked: 129 Times	One of my friend has driven the new Palio Stile 1.1 and he was able to pull the car 100 KMPH at 2nd Gear. Do you guys think it is underpower ?
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5th April 2007, 17:56	#184
cartech BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 198 Thanked: Once	Length increased? Specs for old Palio 1.6 has length of 3763. Palio stile web site states it is 3825 while wheel base is same at 2373. Does this mean more boot space or error in spec?
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5th April 2007, 18:10	#185
Sush BHPian Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Noida, New York Posts: 308 Thanked: 2 Times	Hi Guys, I also checked out the Fiat website. It just talks about the Stile and Adventure. What about Petra? Any idea why its not mentioned there?
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5th April 2007, 18:26	#187
RX135 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: pune Posts: 2,106 Thanked: 75 Times	I tend to agree with Amit. Fiat seems to be talking, and more importantly doing, many things right this time. However, improving A/S/S is a real uphill task and far far easier said than done. Fiat seems to have started marketing Stile in print media, which is a good thing but barely sufficient. It would really need sustained and focussed efforts. It is very important to increase the road presence in early days. I am surprised that there are no advt. on TV channels. Fiat needs to understand that they are not Honda, who doesn't need to market in India. They are "Fiat India" and unless, they go all out on marketing front in early stage, Stile will meet same fate as other Fiat cars. They should be focusing on marketing a) mileage AKA FE, b) low maintenance, c) space, comfort, looks (in that order). Last edited by RX135 : 5th April 2007 at 18:27.
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5th April 2007, 19:32	#188
sivadas BHPian Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 506 Thanked: 208 Times View My Garage	Here is the Bangalore price list of Palio, Getz, Aveo U-VA and Indica. Nothing can beat Indica's VFM, but Tata was never targeting this segment with xeta . I have put it here because some one was comparing the bhps of these. Now you can do the comparison. Palio Stile SL 352874 SLE 373030 SLX 393296 Sport 434848 Getz Prime 1.1 GLE 3,88,852 1.1 GVS 4,21,208 1.3 GLS 4,90,400 1.3 GLX 5,25,508 Aveo U-VA Base 399825 LS 440213 LT 480263 Indica Xeta GL-BS III 2,52,635 GLE-BS III 2,76,610 GLS-BS III 2,95,623 GLG-BSIII 3,18,980 GLX-BS III 3,46,770 By the way, I have really liked the new looks of Palio.
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6th April 2007, 00:57	#192
hell_rider BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 538 Thanked: 61 Times	we are talking here on a number of threads about multiple new launches, almost all of them in the same segment, without having a lot of relevant information, torque curves, gear ratios etc. don't you guys think so ???
	() Thanks

6th April 2007, 10:20	#193
cartech BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 198 Thanked: Once	Palio 1.9D What is the fate of Palio 1.9D? Fiat web site does not mention it at all!!
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