[volkman10]

Ford’s Marazzo-based MPV to get 2.2-litre diesel engine( more-powerful mHawk)


Apart from the more powerful engine, Ford's Marazzo-based MPV will have unique design inside out.

New Ford MPV will share underpinnings with the Marazzo.
Will come with a 2.2-litre engine, instead of a 1.5-litre unit.
New Ford MPV will be aimed squarely at the Toyota Innova Crysta

Mahindra-Ford JV

- jointly developed vehicle from the brands will be the next-gen XUV500 and its Ford version. While the new XUV500 will be launched first, its Ford derivative will follow a little later.

-brands are also currently working on a new B-segment SUV that is expected to see light of day in FY2022. Mahindra's 1.5-litre direct-injection turbo-petrol will be one of the engine options on these SUVs.

- the current-gen Ford EcoSport will get Mahindra's 1.2-litre turbo-petrol engine, in place of Ford’s 1.0-litre EcoBoost that was available in India until last year. Expect the EcoSport 1.2 turbo-petrol to hit Ford showrooms early next year

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[hserus]

Originally Posted by volkman10

Ford’s Marazzo-based MPV to get 2.2-litre diesel engine.

Apart from the more powerful engine, Ford's Marazzo-based MPV will have unique design inside out.

Oh 2.2 liter diesel engine. I wonder which one it could be? Sounds like the mhawk, or is it the 2.2 endeavour engine?

[CEF_Beasts]

Originally Posted by hserus

Oh 2.2 liter diesel engine. I wonder which one it could be? Sounds like the mhawk, or is it the 2.2 endeavour engine?

It must be Mahindra’s mHawk 2.2L engine considering Ford’s 2.2L Duratorq was not converted to BS6 atleast in India.

[hserus]

Originally Posted by CEF_Beasts

It must be Mahindra’s mHawk 2.2L engine considering Ford’s 2.2L Duratorq was not converted to BS6 atleast in India.

Gem of an engine. If this comes with Ford's build quality for the vehicle it is going to be a great buy.

[Vipin Kumar]

Originally Posted by hserus

Oh 2.2 liter diesel engine. I wonder which one it could be? Sounds like the mhawk, or is it the 2.2 endeavour engine?

I suppose Endeavour has a 2.0 liter diesel automatic only in the BS6 era. Not 2.2 liter.

What is the status of Ford's Creta/Seltos rival? Is one on card? We badly miss many choices here, in diesels.

[DicKy]

Originally Posted by volkman10

Ford’s Marazzo-based MPV to get 2.2-litre diesel engine( more-powerful mHawk)

Apart from the more powerful engine, Ford's Marazzo-based MPV will have unique design inside out.

Thought the cramped engine bay forced them to use the 1.5l engine, instead of the fabulous 2.2l ones.
IMHO, the only flaw in otherwise a capable product, if you overlook the weird chassis/driven wheels combo.

Guess Ford is doing an extensive body redesign, for it to be able to accommodate the 2.2l engine.

An overused cliche dialogue for two decades, but if Ford is going to launch an MPV on the Marazzo platform with a 2.2l engine, sleepless nights for Toyota...

Ofcourse I will nitpick on the futility of a body on frame mated with front wheel drive, but with a stronger engine available most of the customers wouldn't care.

[Aditya]

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[Lowflyer23]

These Ford-Mahindra JV cars will take quite a bit of time as was told by my SA when getting my EcoSport serviced a week back. Over and above the vehicles, there would be training and service requirements and maybe rearrangement of dealerships, all of this won't happen anytime soon IMO.

[giri1.8]

I expect it to carry design inspiration from their Transit van. With good Ecosport like quality, this should be a clear winner.

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by giri1.8

I expect it to carry design inspiration from their Transit van. With good Ecosport like quality, this should be a clear winner.

Transit is way too big - and almost competition to the TATA Winger. Ford has a lot more stylish MPVs to take inspiration from - take the SMax below for example.

Best part - this stylish MPV that looks smaller than something MPVish like a Marazzo is actually of larger dimensions - 4796 * 1916 mm. (Marazzo - 4585 * 1866 mm).

[hserus]

Looks like a Jazz / WRV sized oversized hatchback but if you say it is bigger than the Marazzo that's a lovely design.

Not having the Innova's boxy rear would certainly be a good idea - but how much is the back seat space and comfort going to be? People blindly buy an Innova for just that reason, whereas Fords are pure driver's cars and your passengers in the back seat get to squeeze in if there are more than two.

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

Transit is way too big - and almost competition to the TATA Winger. Ford has a lot more stylish MPVs to take inspiration from - take the SMax beloww for example.

[CEF_Beasts]

Autocar added the S-Max face to the Marazzo and the rendering looks sweet!

[Neelanjan]

Ford can redesign the exterior and in my opinion,the Ford designers should add sliding electronic doors and middle captain seats with rear entertainment screens and pit it against the Kia Carnival.With an aggressive pricing strategy,Ford can surely put a dent on the Carnival's sales.

Not many people might opt for the Ford MPV/Mahindra Marazzo over the more SUVish Toyota Innova Crysta.

[RSR]

I believe this is kind of speculation and should be taken as such, with a pinch of salt.

I have my doubts on whether a 2.2 litre diesel engine would fit under the hood of the Marazzo. Remember what a tight fit the Marazzo's current 1.6 litre diesel already is? Marazzo also has a rare body-on-frame, front wheel drive architecture.

Moreover the Marazzo with the 1.6 diesel itself sells quite poorly at the price it is sold at. Put in 2.2 diesel and jack up the price, and it would barely sell, Ford or Mahindra.

With the Ertiga's exit from the diesel space, there definitely is space for a diesel MPV between the Ertiga/XL6 and the Innova. Even Kia is rumoured to be planning an MPV in this space.

A 2.2 diesel is not the way to go about positioning a Ford MPV in this space. It's better to sell a badge-engineered Marazzo with the 1.6 diesel and a petrol.

Overall, it's quite sad to see Ford planning to bring out re-worked (even if not re-badged) Mahindras carrying the Blue Oval.

Nothing wrong with the Marazzo as such, just that it's not a true Ford, just like there's nothing wrong with a Vitara Brezza, but it's not a true Toyota.

What can Ford do? They were stupid enough to do a semi-withdrawal from the Indian market and handover majority stake in their Indian operations to Mahindra. Now, with Mahindra in the driver's seat, Ford has no option but to ride along. They're doing what's best for the Blue Oval to maintain a presence in India, they have no choice.

[rajshenoy]

I am skeptical about this. Ford can take the easy route(like Toyota) with bit of redesign of front fascia instead !! Unless the JV has some fine prints because of which Ford wants to compete a segment(pricewise) above and has no choice but to offer more powerful engine.