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| ![]() IOC will provide XP100 premium petrol at select outlets of IOC in 10 cities -- Delhi, Gurgaon, Noida, Agra, Jaipur, Chandigarh, Ludhiana, Mumbai, Pune and Ahmedabad. Quote:
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Ah, such wonderful news. Praise be the automotive gods, it seems that the voices of us enthusiasts are finally being heard. But wait. There’s one tiny detail missing. What of the price per liter? Surely that’s an important detail to leave out in a news release like this. Well, that’s because they haven’t got the courage to show or mention the prices. Grab a seat, and be ready for this. Or break out in peals of laughter, as I did. Fuel prices are getting progressively crazier. Petrol is pushing 90 a liter in Bombay, 97 about 110. This though, is another level of nutty. Surely these prices are unsustainable and won’t see much momentum. Be right back. I’d rather smoke rubber than whatever special stuff these guys are on a steady diet of. |
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Infractions: 0/2 (8) | ![]() Good news for supercar owners but that ₹160 per/litre rate makes memy stomach funny. I understand that people who've spent crores on their vehicles won't care (hope to reach that stage of life soon). Surely does make Petrol and Diesel look cheaper :") |
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Distinguished - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Actually, octane 100 is available in more countries than the 6 mentioned in the article. E.g. the Netherlands. But in all those countries they are finding out it has virtually no use. There are very few cars that would actually benefit from it. Even supercars are designed for run off the mill petrols. You don’t get a different compression ratio by changing the octane number. Ignition advance will only give you an advance, pardon the pun, up to a point. Even so, there are in every country, many, many punters who will happily shell out big bucks for high octane petrol and claim unbelievable performance improvements. And these are typically not the supercar boys either. Jeroen |
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| ![]() I read some where that a person had filled this 100 octane fuel in his Porsche and he said the gain in performance between 99 octane and 100 octane was very minuscule to even consider the ₹160/L compared to the 99’s ~₹100/L. Also ₹160/L is the price in Delhi is it the same in Mumbai and other cities as well? |
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| ![]() They should consider home delivery of this fuel. Super car owners can definitely afford, yes certainly this number may feel pinching but they can certainly when they are driving a car costing few cores !! Beside, home delivery may allow the owners to have some storage at home. Saving the trip to fuel station. Specially the super bikes with puny tanks & outrageous fuel economy. One may end up spending half a tank just commuting to the bunk located at other end of the city & back. ![]() |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() Guys, sorry for a noob question, can we use this 100 octane petrol on normal Maruti and Hyundai cars and scooters like Honda activa and Yamaha fascino, will it make engine any smoother or would it give better performance (instant pickup / power surge as 100 octane burns much faster than normal petrol) compared to the normal petrol? On the flip side are there any negatives in using 100 octane premium petrol in regular cars like affecting fuel pump, injectors, apart burning a hole in our pockets? Last edited by WhiteSierra : 2nd December 2020 at 09:08. |
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| ![]() Checked with another Bhpian, who knows about this stuff, IOL is also adding additives like what HP & BP does. So essentially, these companies are adding additives like Proctane maybe a different brand or a higher quality. Will be interesting to check long term effects, perhaps soot on spark plugs can give some indication? Quote:
Looks, IOL took the cues from the other narratives, bigger or larger is better. Will be a complete flop in my opinion. Instead, they should have launched a premium fuel at 1000 + pumps given the wide reach of their network over others. That would have given them more business and would have helped people with such cars/ suvs travel further than cities. Quote:
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As explained already on the forum, high octane petrol helps the engines with higher compression ratio (> 10), which are susceptible to knock on the normal petrol. But even the octane level of the normal petrol has gone up in the last decade. Last edited by Rahul Bhalgat : 2nd December 2020 at 09:10. | |
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Putting higher octane fuel in standard engines may result in poor fuel efficiency, but might feel a bit smoother due to absence of any knocking. Putting lower octane fuel in high compression engines will result in knocking, but ECU will alter a bunch of parameters (ignition timing and air/fuel mixtures, etc.) that will make the engine do poorly in terms of performance, smoothness and fuel efficiency. This is done to protect the engine from damage and I think they do a fairly good job. Then there is the big question of how higher octane rating is achieved, how much energy dilution is taking place? Octane can be boosted by adding stuff that has no energy. Last edited by androdev : 2nd December 2020 at 10:41. | |
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The different mimima specified for the different regions gives you an immediate indication of how de-tuned/de-rated this particular engine is for markets where higher octane fuel is not widely available. As several people have mentioned, using a lower octane fuel than specified will result in fuel detonation, or 'knock', if the octane number is too much lower than the recommended level. All else being equal, using a higher RON fuel than the minimum recommended will not harm the engine in any way. Similarly, diesel engine manufacturers also state minimum Cetane Index or Cetane Number specifications for their products. The below is from a generator engine, but the principle is the same. As long as the Cetane Index of the fuel is higher than the minimum specified then the fuel is suitable for the engine. EDIT: The bit covered by the T-Bhp watermark says 'Cetane Index'. ![]() Last edited by RadixLecti : 2nd December 2020 at 11:16. Reason: Watermark obscures information in attachment | |
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Octane ratings are not indicators of the energy content of fuels. (See Effects below and Heat of combustion). They are only a measure of the fuel's tendency to burn in a controlled manner, rather than exploding in an uncontrolled manner.[3] This is important to know when choosing a fuel for a particular engine. Performance is optimized when the lowest octane rated fuel that can be used without detonation is used. It also says, Where the octane number is raised by blending in ethanol, energy content per volume is reduced. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating We have started blended Ethanol for a while in India, which also explains the increase in or RON as standard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating However, all the oil companies add additives to the regular fuels to increase the Octane numbers in India, so I am not sure if your point on the fuels with higher octane number with lower energy hold good in our case. | |
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