[car_guy1998]

This is what I was waiting for!

If Skoda prices the Kushaq right, then this will be the perfect replacement for my Honda City Diesel as the city car! Mostly will go for 1.5 TSI DSG as the car is driven in the city traffic every day and occasionally driven on highways!

And, can't wait to have TD of this car as soon as it gets launched here!

I hope the Kushaq 1.5 TSI DSG will be cheaper than the Creta/Seltos DCT!

[RPM1706]

Originally Posted by Carz77

Skoda is keeping the variant list simple, hope they price all variants competitively and not just 1.0 L variants.
I am not sure what will be the difference between Style 1.5L Manual versus Style 1.5 DSG. Hoping that only the Gearbox is different and other features like ventilated seats, 6 airbags, etc are kept same, else the customer will be forced to go for DSG and not everyone is confident of this gearbox.

Agree. Skoda/VW, of all manufacturers, should respect fans of the manual gear box enough to not strip manual variants of any features being offered on the auto. These are just gearbox preferences and am sure their transmission units (DSG, TC or manual) are in no way inferior to one another. And I doubt if features (unless it's safety related or too basic to be missed out at a certain price point) alone can or should be a deal breaker. Or maybe it's just me!

Anyway, speculations, speculations! At this stage, am just trusting Skoda to get things right (pricing onwards!!)

[RoadTrippin]

Originally Posted by Deep Blue

Octavia fans are going to be more pissed that Kushaq has ventilated seats and sunroof!!

Was going to say exactly this. Can understand no sunroof as it’s a CKD and globally the Octavia doesn’t get one but the lack of ventilated seats in a car that’s going to end up costing almost twice as much is particularly galling.

[src]

Originally Posted by TusharK

Scoop! Skoda Kushaq variant details leaked ahead of launch

Skoda is set to launch its first crossover, the Kushaq in the Indian market on June 28. We already know the engines that will be on offer. Now, here are the variant details.


Link to Team-BHP News

The eternal question: Style Variant of Kushaq around 23 lakhs INR OTR in Bangalore - Value for Money?

Being 1.5 Litre engine it will be priced more.
Will this be reliable compared to Seltos or Creta DCT.

Over time only we are getting additional features and better power but at the cost of reliability & price is my only concern.

[Venkatesh]

Skoda Kushaq spotted in Honey Orange along with the Volkswagen Taigun.

https://youtu.be/vTSTRg9ZhjA

[CrAzY dRiVeR]

Originally Posted by src

Being 1.5 Litre engine it will be priced more.
Will this be reliable compared to Seltos or Creta DCT.

Over time only we are getting additional features and better power but at the cost of reliability & price is my only concern.

For long term reliability - it will be better to avoid DCT / DSG gearboxes all together, be it from Hyundai or VW. It's only a matter of when, not if, the gearbox fails.

The 1.0 + Torque Converter AT combination will be the one to go for! It's not a slouch as seen in the Rapid - being faster than the Honda City 1.5 in it's manual guise.

[Carz77]

Originally Posted by src

The eternal question: Style Variant of Kushaq around 23 lakhs INR OTR in Bangalore - Value for Money?

23L OTR Bangalore is "Not a value for money" IMHO because of following reasons -
1) It's a new product and has to be prove its mettle - NCAP, initial product niggles, ASS as it is still not at the expected levels
2) DSG has reliability issues and bound to fail at some point in time . Hence need to be ready for additional funds at a later date after warranty
3) Even though it has many new features, it still misses out on panaromic sunroof, EPB, digital cockpit which the competition offers
4) Dimensions are lower (boot space is not acceptable) compared to others and customers expect bigger car that has road presence

I think max of 20L OTR Bangalore should be the sweet spot IMHO

[Pancham]

Originally Posted by Carz77

23L OTR Bangalore is "Not a value for money" IMHO
I think max of 20L OTR Bangalore should be the sweet spot IMHO

I think it is high time we stop comparing the state OTR prices but look at ex-showroom only. Companies are not obligated to price their cars based on state taxes, neither is it their problem. If the prices are getting jacked up due to state taxes, it is unfortunate but it is entirely on you. So there is no debate here. I think a 18-19L ex-showroom for a nicely build Skoda with good features and safety is good VFM.

To answer some of the points:

1) By the time the product proves its mettle, prices will be hiked again. Also, unlike Tatas and Mahindras, other companies rarely have any major niggles

2) DSG failure: The statement that it is bound to fail is untrue. If possible, please provide some basis here. Yes, you should keep a fixed deposit somewhere for future potential failures, but there is no guarantee of it failing. The driving pleasure that a DSG gives is unmatched and makes up for a lot of its drawbacks.

4) Dimensions do not define the pricing. That way, the Mini Cooper should be a sub-20L car.

[steadfast]

Originally Posted by Carz77

23L OTR Bangalore is "Not a value for money" IMHO because of following reasons -
1) It's a new product and has to be prove its mettle - NCAP, initial product niggles, ASS as it is still not at the expected levels
2) DSG has reliability issues and bound to fail at some point in time . Hence need to be ready for additional funds at a later date after warranty
3) Even though it has many new features, it still misses out on panaromic sunroof, EPB, digital cockpit which the competition offers
4) Dimensions are lower (boot space is not acceptable) compared to others and customers expect bigger car that has road presence

I think max of 20L OTR Bangalore should be the sweet spot IMHO

What is the OTR Bangalore price for top variant of Rapid?

[src]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

For long term reliability - it will be better to avoid DCT / DSG gearboxes all together, be it from Hyundai or VW. It's only a matter of when, not if, the gearbox fails.

Yes that was my moot point. Whatever we highlight eventual reliability of DCT & DSG force us to think plenty of times.
Saying this from my personal experience which eventually led me to a CVT.

On top of that typical VAG issues will always be there and hence the OTR price point is indeed a defining factor for majority car owners.

[The Rationalist]

The failure of DSG or DCT maybe real, but after using DCT in Ford, I will still take that risk untill I find an equally good TC one. One need to have used a DSG/DCT extensively before writing it off. If the failure rate is 5%, I’m all for it. If one is so worried about reliability stick to manual ones and keep the savings for the knee replacement specialist!

[audioholic]

For those who are mentioning about GNCAP ratings for the Kushaq or Taigun and are considering that as an important point for comparison, keep in mind that neither of the company has an obligation to do that since GNCAP is not a regulatory body. So, VW and Skoda might not even consider them as a TODO before the release or during the release. Only if GNCAP themselves pick up a car and test it, you would have something to look at. Else, please dont keep hopes high for this. And that doesnt make the car unsafe either.

[Axe77]

Originally Posted by The Rationalist

One need to have used a DSG/DCT extensively before writing it off. If the failure rate is 5%, I’m all for it. If one is so worried about reliability stick to manual ones and keep the savings for the knee replacement specialist!

Not to get pedantic but there can always be a third buyer right, who chooses a TC because he wants better reliability AND doesn’t want to pay for “knee replacement” and buy a manual.

Why must the choices be binary between DSG or Manual and nothing in between.

[Carz77]

Originally Posted by Pancham

I think it is high time we stop comparing the state OTR prices but look at ex-showroom only. Companies are not obligated to price their cars based on state taxes, neither is it their problem. If the prices are getting jacked up due to state taxes, it is unfortunate but it is entirely on you. So there is no debate here. I think a 18-19L ex-showroom for a nicely build Skoda with good features and safety is good VFM.

To answer some of the points:

1) By the time the product proves its mettle, prices will be hiked again. Also, unlike Tatas and Mahindras, other companies rarely have any major niggles

2) DSG failure: The statement that it is bound to fail is untrue. If possible, please provide some basis here. Yes, you should keep a fixed deposit somewhere for future potential failures, but there is no guarantee of it failing. The driving pleasure that a DSG gives is unmatched and makes up for a lot of its drawbacks.

4) Dimensions do not define the pricing. That way, the Mini Cooper should be a sub-20L car.

I am just answering to someone who was asking whether this is value for money in BLR for 23L and hence is my opinion.

1) proving mettle - is mainly to a new product (which is publicly not tested and proven and NCAP is not yet available) and not assigning largely to a company. Personally, I will wait for reviews & thorough testing before spending 23L without clarity

2) DSG failure: I agree that there is no guarantee of failure and I never questioned its driving pleasure. There are enough DSG failure stories in our T-bhp forum + GTO quotes on DSG + CrAzY dRiVeR has just quoted that "It's only a matter of when, not if,". With these references that a customer should tread cautiously

4) Dimensions: I agree with you and I don't mind as long as it meets my requirements. But majority of Indian customers look for it, and remember this is a mass market product, unlike mini-cooper which is for select few

[naadopaasaka]

Does anybody know (or can anybody reliably speculate) whether the lowest Active trim will have Android Auto and Apple CarPlay? It seems clear that it will have a 7-inch touch screen infotainment system. Does that merely mean that Android Auto and Apple CarPlay will be wired (and wireless on the Style variant) or that they won't be available in the Active trim at all? Is there any inference/ deduction possible based on Skoda/ VW's past behaviour on this front?

Also, doesn't this matter to many people? Aren't these platforms preferable to screen mirroring, particularly for Google Maps/ navigation?