Spotted Mahindra Scorpio M2di@ Worli

numerouno · 9th December 2006, 22:14

Today while driving back home I saw a new Scorpio base variant without the scoop on the bonnet. It had a temporary number and on closer inspection had the letters "M2DI" written instead of "CRDe". On pulling up next to it near a traffic signal I could make out that it was distinctively noisier than the normal Scorpio.. sounding more like the Spacio/Bolero DI. m guessing this is some variant of the Bolero Engine. This would definately help Scorpio compete with the Tavera in the Taxi market and also make it more afforable once again.

rahul_intlad · 10th December 2006, 01:01

Perhaps it is their engine for their MPV ingenu/ingenio to be launched in 2008 which would be running parallel to the Bolero.
Or maybe this is just an engine upgrade for the Bolero itself.

As far as scorpio competing in the taxi segment,they would first have to increase interior space in the scorpio.Also it would be a big risk for the lifestyle image the scorpio has created and doubt mahindra would want to risk it by entering the taxi segment.

JRD · 10th December 2006, 02:25

yeah my guess is that its a commercial market scorpio.. probably running against the tata 207 pick ups.
it might even be lower in hp but higher in torque..

just a guess.

Mpower · 10th December 2006, 03:54

The scorpio could very well be a mule vehicle for testing a new engine. But the fact that left the badging for all and sundry to see baffles me.

HOpefully our man Sajo can do some snooping around, its his lucky month.

maxbhp · 10th December 2006, 12:23

Now that will certainly help Mahindra pull numbers , It may not be an ingenio based one coz isnt that supped to be an MPV ? something like a Innova ? moreover I dont think it wil appeal to a larger mass with an unrefined engine when manf.'s are trying hard to pop up with something like Crdi and stuff. This may be a bolero replacment, that way they can use the current shell .

rahul_intlad · 10th December 2006, 12:26

Mahindra want the ingenio to be priced at around the bolero price so it would be sharing some components with the bolero.

danlalan · 10th December 2006, 12:44

well if they plan to give the scorpio, bolero's pricing then that might affect the bolero sales. or are they going to discontinue the bolero.

nitrous · 10th December 2006, 13:09

Scorpio with a bolero engine would make it a sweeet deal for not only taxi operators.But also, families and politicians who just want it for its looks.
Who cares what engine its got if ur driver is gonna do all the driving...
I think it'll cost 50 to 70k lesser than the CRDe models.

GTO · 10th December 2006, 17:32

M2DI is a giveaway. Its the crappy, agricultural, underpowered and loud Mahindra normally aspirated DI engine. You will normally find it in their people movers.

I dont see how it would fit the image of the Scorpio...unless they are just testing the engine for fitment in some other Jeep.

salilpawar1 · 10th December 2006, 20:01

Yeah, it's quite possible that the Scorpio would be launched with a DI engine, if u take M&M's strategy regarding the Bolero into consideration. BTW, a facelifted Bolero is going to be launched. Refer this month's OD for spy pics.

Yusha · 11th December 2006, 09:38

I just hope that Mahnidra does'nt do that. They have spoiled there entire range using that combine harvestor engine. That engine does'nt deserve the Scorpio.

Armyman · 11th December 2006, 13:37

Guys,
I went for a test drive of Scorpio and asked the person regarding the new 2.2 L engine and he told me that it will take some time before the new engine is launched however he mentioned that the new 2.0 l engine in scorpio is being launched for the commercial taxi category. It will be aimed only at that category and will be cheaper than the existing model. He did not have any more details to share so I can't give any more information.....

Mpower · 12th December 2006, 00:51

Cheapening the Scorpio will definetly damage the reputation of the product. They should at least change the front end and give it a different name.

GTO · 12th December 2006, 10:13

If one remembers, Mahindra was going to launch the N/A version of its engine at a lower price, within a year of the original Scorpio launch. Whatever happened to those plans?

Steeroid · 12th December 2006, 11:55

If Scorpios start running around as Taxis the vehicle will lose its presence/image factor....being a Mahindra its likely to be successful and therefore it may end up with the same image that the Indica currently has. 4 years of marketing campaigns gone to dust.

9th December 2006, 22:14	#1
numerouno BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 38 Thanked: 19 Times	Spotted Mahindra Scorpio M2di@ Worli Today while driving back home I saw a new Scorpio base variant without the scoop on the bonnet. It had a temporary number and on closer inspection had the letters "M2DI" written instead of "CRDe". On pulling up next to it near a traffic signal I could make out that it was distinctively noisier than the normal Scorpio.. sounding more like the Spacio/Bolero DI. m guessing this is some variant of the Bolero Engine. This would definately help Scorpio compete with the Tavera in the Taxi market and also make it more afforable once again.
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10th December 2006, 01:01	#2
rahul_intlad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 1,579 Thanked: 4 Times	Perhaps it is their engine for their MPV ingenu/ingenio to be launched in 2008 which would be running parallel to the Bolero. Or maybe this is just an engine upgrade for the Bolero itself. As far as scorpio competing in the taxi segment,they would first have to increase interior space in the scorpio.Also it would be a big risk for the lifestyle image the scorpio has created and doubt mahindra would want to risk it by entering the taxi segment.
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10th December 2006, 02:25	#3
JRD BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Turin/Ahmedabad Posts: 372 Thanked: 15 Times View My Garage	yeah my guess is that its a commercial market scorpio.. probably running against the tata 207 pick ups. it might even be lower in hp but higher in torque.. just a guess.
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10th December 2006, 03:54	#4
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,729 Times View My Garage	The scorpio could very well be a mule vehicle for testing a new engine. But the fact that left the badging for all and sundry to see baffles me. HOpefully our man Sajo can do some snooping around, its his lucky month.
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10th December 2006, 12:23	#5
maxbhp Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: C C K Posts: 1,382 Thanked: 89 Times View My Garage	Now that will certainly help Mahindra pull numbers , It may not be an ingenio based one coz isnt that supped to be an MPV ? something like a Innova ? moreover I dont think it wil appeal to a larger mass with an unrefined engine when manf.'s are trying hard to pop up with something like Crdi and stuff. This may be a bolero replacment, that way they can use the current shell .
	() Thanks

10th December 2006, 12:26	#6
rahul_intlad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 1,579 Thanked: 4 Times	Mahindra want the ingenio to be priced at around the bolero price so it would be sharing some components with the bolero.
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10th December 2006, 12:44	#7
danlalan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: mumbai,JUHU Posts: 1,636 Thanked: 263 Times View My Garage	well if they plan to give the scorpio, bolero's pricing then that might affect the bolero sales. or are they going to discontinue the bolero.
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10th December 2006, 13:09	#8
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Scorpio with a bolero engine would make it a sweeet deal for not only taxi operators.But also, families and politicians who just want it for its looks. Who cares what engine its got if ur driver is gonna do all the driving... I think it'll cost 50 to 70k lesser than the CRDe models.
	() Thanks

10th December 2006, 17:32	#9
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,497 Thanked: 300,309 Times View My Garage	M2DI is a giveaway. Its the crappy, agricultural, underpowered and loud Mahindra normally aspirated DI engine. You will normally find it in their people movers. I dont see how it would fit the image of the Scorpio...unless they are just testing the engine for fitment in some other Jeep.
	() Thanks

10th December 2006, 20:01	#10
salilpawar1 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (MH-01) Posts: 852 Thanked: 247 Times View My Garage	Yeah, it's quite possible that the Scorpio would be launched with a DI engine, if u take M&M's strategy regarding the Bolero into consideration. BTW, a facelifted Bolero is going to be launched. Refer this month's OD for spy pics.
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11th December 2006, 09:38	#11
Yusha BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 222 Thanked: 232 Times	I just hope that Mahnidra does'nt do that. They have spoiled there entire range using that combine harvestor engine. That engine does'nt deserve the Scorpio.
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11th December 2006, 13:37	#12
Armyman Newbie Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20 Thanked: 4 Times	Guys, I went for a test drive of Scorpio and asked the person regarding the new 2.2 L engine and he told me that it will take some time before the new engine is launched however he mentioned that the new 2.0 l engine in scorpio is being launched for the commercial taxi category. It will be aimed only at that category and will be cheaper than the existing model. He did not have any more details to share so I can't give any more information.....
	() Thanks

12th December 2006, 00:51	#13
Mpower Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 10,409 Thanked: 1,729 Times View My Garage	Cheapening the Scorpio will definetly damage the reputation of the product. They should at least change the front end and give it a different name.
	() Thanks

12th December 2006, 10:13	#14
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,497 Thanked: 300,309 Times View My Garage	If one remembers, Mahindra was going to launch the N/A version of its engine at a lower price, within a year of the original Scorpio launch. Whatever happened to those plans?
	() Thanks

12th December 2006, 11:55	#15
Steeroid Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: N.A Posts: 7,046 Thanked: 2,751 Times	If Scorpios start running around as Taxis the vehicle will lose its presence/image factor....being a Mahindra its likely to be successful and therefore it may end up with the same image that the Indica currently has. 4 years of marketing campaigns gone to dust.
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