Beware: Fake registration numbers on Imported Cars (proof on Pg 3)

BuRnT RuBbEr · 30th March 2006, 05:42

i have noticed tha hr 18 thing too. well, that place could be native place to some import guy. and dont underestimate these oh-so-backward villages of northern india. my frnd' family in karnal boasts of two beemers and an S.

it is possible that these people get these registration numbers from the rto under some special number thing. imports with jhol willl never stop untill the duties become a bit more sane.

V-16 · 2nd April 2006, 03:17

This thing of hr-18 and other numbers like mh-06 i.e. pen, is that these rtos are apparently not very well versed with the import documentations so the jhols happen there. choksi and most other dealers here and anywhere use such dud numbers also ... thats why they're all on the run now that the dri has caught up with them and who suffers....well lets see, amitabh, saif, sunil shetty...sorry suniel shetty, sanjay dutt, sushmita sen, dia mirza (how on earth does she afford a LC lexus?) to name a few.

did u guys notyice, after these raids, one rarely sees a Land Cruiser on the road....???? huh?its a big scam but as they say, u set to find one sucker...u get a million!!

v12 · 4th June 2006, 23:01

Quote:

Updates :
Brand new 2005 Mercedes SLK running on 1995 regisstration.

Wanna see this Jhol?
Check the Regn of the SLK in the Oct 2005 issue of Top Gear and then check this.

This New Mercedes SLK200 K :
Year of Manufacture 2004/5.
Year of Registration (according to regn number) : 1995

serious_maniac · 5th June 2006, 12:47

There may not be any jhol. People transfer the numbers from old cars to new ones. So if you have an old car with a nice fancy number (unlike the new ones which are 10 letters/digits long like KA 05 MB xxxx) you can get it transferred to a new car. People generally do that for 'Easy' registration numbers.

~maniac

v12 · 5th June 2006, 13:08

I doubt Indian laws have a provision for transfer of registration numbers.

DueLLeR · 26th October 2006, 15:48

I have also seen some exotic cars registered in a series meant for bikes. Saw a Lexus SUV (not sure which one) registered with number MH-04-BE-X. This series was used for bikes in 2002. May not necessarily be a jhol number, but shows to what extent RTOs can go to please the customer and earn big black bucks!

lamborghini · 26th October 2006, 21:07

I'm sorry if this is offtopic, but did anyone notice that the Safari in ACI October 06 issue has an MH - 01 - CA reg which is that of year 2000 - 2001?
Seems like even big companies are going the cheaper way.

gd1418 · 26th October 2006, 21:23

For quite sometime the Delhi RTOs have stopped the transfer of regn numbers of one car to another. Earlier it used to happen very frequently where the excuse dished out used to be - the number is lucky, numerologically it suites etc.

This practice has now been put to stop for general public. Maybe with influence some are getting it done, but it is far and few.

salilpawar1 · 26th October 2006, 23:32

about the skoda ads, those are morphed number plates

salilpawar1 · 26th October 2006, 23:36

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Originally Posted by lamborghini

hey guys its the same story with the cops
they just got new boleros ( and if anybody read the article you guys would have to come to know that they were indirectly saying that boleros were better then qualises )
anyway
if you check out their number it MH 01 BA
like wasnt BA used 1.5 years ago or is it for cops only type of thing ???

as far as i know MH-01-BA / SA, they are reserved for police, vip vehicles.

salilpawar1 · 26th October 2006, 23:47

There is another much bigger scam of fake addresses. Almost every second car in Mumbai (and almost every commercial vehicle) has a Thane registration / Navi Mumbai regn. ,i.e., MH-04-, MH-43-. Although some people do have residences/offices in Thane/Navi Mumbai, most of these vehicles have fake registration registered on fake addresses in order to avoid paying octroi. Many dealers are involved in this scam (i know this because i have personally seen this). This can easily be done by paying a meagre Rs.2000 to the dealer and the dealer will do rest of the 'setting'.

danlalan · 26th October 2006, 23:48

well i saw mr bachan in a white cayman a few days back and his NUMBER PLATE READ S 736...(real number not give out)...so thts the first time ive seen that...and wasnt in read or yellow..it was in black and white.

khanak · 27th October 2006, 10:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by danlalan

well i saw mr bachan in a white cayman a few days back and his NUMBER PLATE READ S 736...(real number not give out)...so thts the first time ive seen that...and wasnt in read or yellow..it was in black and white.

cayman!!!

or cayenne?

Insane Devil · 27th October 2006, 12:29

Due to these problems with the imported cars of fake numberplates and also it being stolen , i am really scared buying an import car! i have been thinking of the Lexus Land cruiser to buy from mumbai, but it scares as to what its actual history is... paperwise and car maintenance wise. What if i buy it and then some Custom officials land up at my house to take it away!

V-16 · 11th November 2006, 01:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by v12

I doubt Indian laws have a provision for transfer of registration numbers.

well this is allowed in Delhi. if u have an old car u can have the no transferred to a newer car. ive seen it it my family cars in Delhi

30th March 2006, 05:42	#31
BuRnT RuBbEr BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: DL 1 Posts: 367 Thanked: 13 Times	i have noticed tha hr 18 thing too. well, that place could be native place to some import guy. and dont underestimate these oh-so-backward villages of northern india. my frnd' family in karnal boasts of two beemers and an S. it is possible that these people get these registration numbers from the rto under some special number thing. imports with jhol willl never stop untill the duties become a bit more sane.
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2nd April 2006, 03:17	#32
V-16 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 4,594 Thanked: 950 Times View My Garage	This thing of hr-18 and other numbers like mh-06 i.e. pen, is that these rtos are apparently not very well versed with the import documentations so the jhols happen there. choksi and most other dealers here and anywhere use such dud numbers also ... thats why they're all on the run now that the dri has caught up with them and who suffers....well lets see, amitabh, saif, sunil shetty...sorry suniel shetty, sanjay dutt, sushmita sen, dia mirza (how on earth does she afford a LC lexus?) to name a few. did u guys notyice, after these raids, one rarely sees a Land Cruiser on the road....???? huh?its a big scam but as they say, u set to find one sucker...u get a million!!
	() Thanks

5th June 2006, 12:47	#34
serious_maniac BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 211 Thanked: 220 Times View My Garage	There may not be any jhol. People transfer the numbers from old cars to new ones. So if you have an old car with a nice fancy number (unlike the new ones which are 10 letters/digits long like KA 05 MB xxxx) you can get it transferred to a new car. People generally do that for 'Easy' registration numbers. ~maniac
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5th June 2006, 13:08	#35
v12 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,739 Thanked: 7,213 Times View My Garage	I doubt Indian laws have a provision for transfer of registration numbers.
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26th October 2006, 15:48	#36
DueLLeR BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Vashi / Navi Mumbai Posts: 214 Thanked: 123 Times	I have also seen some exotic cars registered in a series meant for bikes. Saw a Lexus SUV (not sure which one) registered with number MH-04-BE-X. This series was used for bikes in 2002. May not necessarily be a jhol number, but shows to what extent RTOs can go to please the customer and earn big black bucks!
	() Thanks

26th October 2006, 21:07	#37
lamborghini Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,113 Thanked: 5,760 Times View My Garage	I'm sorry if this is offtopic, but did anyone notice that the Safari in ACI October 06 issue has an MH - 01 - CA reg which is that of year 2000 - 2001? Seems like even big companies are going the cheaper way.
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26th October 2006, 21:23	#38
gd1418 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,578 Thanked: 728 Times View My Garage	For quite sometime the Delhi RTOs have stopped the transfer of regn numbers of one car to another. Earlier it used to happen very frequently where the excuse dished out used to be - the number is lucky, numerologically it suites etc. This practice has now been put to stop for general public. Maybe with influence some are getting it done, but it is far and few.
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26th October 2006, 23:32	#39
salilpawar1 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (MH-01) Posts: 852 Thanked: 247 Times View My Garage	about the skoda ads, those are morphed number plates Last edited by salilpawar1 : 26th October 2006 at 23:34.
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26th October 2006, 23:47	#41
salilpawar1 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (MH-01) Posts: 852 Thanked: 247 Times View My Garage	There is another much bigger scam of fake addresses. Almost every second car in Mumbai (and almost every commercial vehicle) has a Thane registration / Navi Mumbai regn. ,i.e., MH-04-, MH-43-. Although some people do have residences/offices in Thane/Navi Mumbai, most of these vehicles have fake registration registered on fake addresses in order to avoid paying octroi. Many dealers are involved in this scam (i know this because i have personally seen this). This can easily be done by paying a meagre Rs.2000 to the dealer and the dealer will do rest of the 'setting'.
	() Thanks

26th October 2006, 23:48	#42
danlalan Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: mumbai,JUHU Posts: 1,636 Thanked: 263 Times View My Garage	well i saw mr bachan in a white cayman a few days back and his NUMBER PLATE READ S 736...(real number not give out)...so thts the first time ive seen that...and wasnt in read or yellow..it was in black and white.
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27th October 2006, 12:29	#44
Insane Devil BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 987 Thanked: 173 Times View My Garage	Due to these problems with the imported cars of fake numberplates and also it being stolen , i am really scared buying an import car! i have been thinking of the Lexus Land cruiser to buy from mumbai, but it scares as to what its actual history is... paperwise and car maintenance wise. What if i buy it and then some Custom officials land up at my house to take it away!
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