EDIT: NOW LAUNCHED :Coming up next : Fusion 1.4 Diesel at 6.49 lacs ex-showroom Delhi

MaserQ · 12th May 2007, 15:58

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Originally Posted by mobike008

Ford must have paid a bomb for the TDCI engine and if i am not wrong, isn't it still the most refined diesel that is available in the market? And, plonking the same unit on to a fusion definetly means that pricing ain't going to be as competitive like an SX4 ( forget about the goodies). IMO, the length will be reduced and same goodies as now with fusion and they may still price it around 6 Lacks ex-showroom.

Damn right you are. TDCi engines do push up costs. But look at it this way. The Fiesta TDCi is selling hot cakes. If they can plonk the same into the Fusion and Ikon (while transplanting the 1.6 TDCi into the Fiesta), that would bring down costs. Economies of scale. The 1.4/1.6 TDCi would share a lot of parts, resulting in lower prices for parts/service as well. But then again, this is a wish list.

nbr · 12th May 2007, 17:44

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Originally Posted by ranc

I think they should go ahead with it as soon as possible and price it somewhere close to the Marina and put an end to those sluggish weird looking cars.

ok.agreethat MARINA is sluggish.but, it definately looks more atttractive than the likes of FIESTA/FUSION. MARINA , though scores avg on image, is a better looking vehicle than most of the sedans.

maxbhp · 12th May 2007, 18:41

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Originally Posted by nbr

ok.agreethat MARINA is sluggish.but, it definately looks more atttractive than the likes of FIESTA/FUSION. MARINA , though scores avg on image, is a better looking vehicle than most of the sedans.

It looks clean but still the wheel looks totally mismatched so does the view from the back . It may be good looking but the lines are no where as clean and symmetrical as Fiesta or Fusion for that matter. Anyway its subjective.

navdeep · 12th May 2007, 19:02

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Originally Posted by maxbhp

It looks clean but still the wheel looks totally mismatched so does the view from the back . It may be good looking but the lines are no where as clean and symmetrical as Fiesta or Fusion for that matter. Anyway its subjective.

I agree , Marina looks are quite asymmetrical and definately not at all contemporary.

benbsb29 · 14th May 2007, 10:35

Somehow, i really feel Ford would mess up the pricing on the Fusion with the TDCi engine. Fingers crossed, though.

If the 1.4 TDCi was introduced on the Ikon, i am sure it would keep the sales registers ringing, although the Fiesta 1.4TDCi sales would take a direct hit.

nevertouchme · 14th May 2007, 10:41

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Originally Posted by navdeep

Getz Diesel is expected around July but with accent engine ( thats what I have been hearing from different sources ).

Yeah, Almost for 2 years...

navdeep · 14th May 2007, 10:41

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Originally Posted by benbsb29

If the 1.4 TDCi was introduced on the Ikon

I don't know how this news has spread but I haven't heard or read anywhere.
If Ikon, Fusion and Fiesta will have TDCi (1.4/1.6 ). I think they will be very close to each other in pricing.

Fusion is expected around 6 lacs then what can be the expected price of Ikon. I am sure close to Fusion but in that case how many will prefer Fusion. I don't think Ikon will be introduced with TDCi.

benbsb29 · 14th May 2007, 10:46

Navdeep, its more of wishful thinking.

IF they did so on the Ikon.....

swathyd · 14th May 2007, 10:49

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Originally Posted by carfreak

yeah,if priced right,the swift will have serious competition

Not only price but the price of the parts should also be reasonable. Then only it will sell in volumes.

abhilashvk · 14th May 2007, 10:52

I doubt if it will be priced at 6 L ex-showroom. The petrol verson is 5.69L ex - showroom which makes it 6.6 OTR in Bangalore. Generally the diesel versons are priced a lakh above the base petrol, that makes it around 7.6 OTR in Bangalore. Too expensive!!.. Only the way out is to get the excise cuts by reducing the length, which is not easy. If its was priced at 6.25 to 6.5 OTR it will be the best bet....

navdeep · 14th May 2007, 11:35

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Originally Posted by benbsb29

Navdeep, its more of wishful thinking.

IF they did so on the Ikon.....

If wishes were horses ... blah blah.. ( courtesy Mr. Sidhu )..

kidding..

if Ikon TDCi is introduced.. surely Ikon is there for next 5 years..

ranc · 14th May 2007, 18:13

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Originally Posted by abhilashvk

I doubt if it will be priced at 6 L ex-showroom. The petrol verson is 5.69L ex - showroom which makes it 6.6 OTR in Bangalore. Generally the diesel versons are priced a lakh above the base petrol, that makes it around 7.6 OTR in Bangalore. Too expensive!!.. Only the way out is to get the excise cuts by reducing the length, which is not easy. If its was priced at 6.25 to 6.5 OTR it will be the best bet....

What if they shave off the extra 1.8 cm (which they can easily do by redesigning the front & back bumbers) then they come under the sub 4000 mm category and can easily drop the diesel fusion price and probably dicontinue the petrol (because it wont sell at that price and they dont have a sub 1.2 engine).

navdeep · 14th May 2007, 19:00

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Originally Posted by ranc

What if they shave off the extra 1.8 cm

they are doing it and this will keep the price in control ..

DCEite · 15th May 2007, 13:03

My dream Ford diesel lineup:

Ford iKon 1.4 TDCi
Ford Fusion 1.4 TDCi
Ford Fiesta 1.6 TDCi
Ford Mondeo 2.0/2.2 TDCi

Fiero · 15th May 2007, 13:29

the Fusion doesn't exactly have a very good image in the indian car market ... very selected buyers ... expensive hatches just don't sell ... even is very spacious ... a hatch = small car for the janta or atleast small car price(read indica)... period ... the pricing will have to be someting special ... priced a lac over the swift vdi , it should have decent sales ...

the 1.4TDCi ofcourse is well a known and proven unit.
time will tell.

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benbsb29 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,961 Thanked: 13,117 Times View My Garage	Somehow, i really feel Ford would mess up the pricing on the Fusion with the TDCi engine. Fingers crossed, though. If the 1.4 TDCi was introduced on the Ikon, i am sure it would keep the sales registers ringing, although the Fiesta 1.4TDCi sales would take a direct hit.
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benbsb29 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brisbane Posts: 9,961 Thanked: 13,117 Times View My Garage	Navdeep, its more of wishful thinking. IF they did so on the Ikon.....
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14th May 2007, 10:52	#40
abhilashvk BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Bangalore/Calic Posts: 367 Thanked: 32 Times View My Garage	I doubt if it will be priced at 6 L ex-showroom. The petrol verson is 5.69L ex - showroom which makes it 6.6 OTR in Bangalore. Generally the diesel versons are priced a lakh above the base petrol, that makes it around 7.6 OTR in Bangalore. Too expensive!!.. Only the way out is to get the excise cuts by reducing the length, which is not easy. If its was priced at 6.25 to 6.5 OTR it will be the best bet....
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15th May 2007, 13:03	#44
DCEite Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: NCR Posts: 3,412 Thanked: 2,466 Times	My dream Ford diesel lineup: Ford iKon 1.4 TDCi Ford Fusion 1.4 TDCi Ford Fiesta 1.6 TDCi Ford Mondeo 2.0/2.2 TDCi
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15th May 2007, 13:29	#45
Fiero BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 352 Thanked: 146 Times	the Fusion doesn't exactly have a very good image in the indian car market ... very selected buyers ... expensive hatches just don't sell ... even is very spacious ... a hatch = small car for the janta or atleast small car price(read indica)... period ... the pricing will have to be someting special ... priced a lac over the swift vdi , it should have decent sales ... the 1.4TDCi ofcourse is well a known and proven unit. time will tell.
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