[volkman10]

New details emerge, but not sure of its credibility!

This includes an optional 1.5-ltr K-series petrol engine from Brezza (with exactly the same specs!). Additionally, Maruti Suzuki India Ltd is now working hard to get a good safety score. The next-gen Maruti Baleno will feature a strengthened platform

the top-end Alpha trim will sport a 1.5-liter K-Series petrol engine option (seen on Maruti Vitara Brezza) that produces 103bhp of power and 138Nm of torque.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTLK...nel=CarBlogger

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[volkman10]

Updated Baleno bookings open (dealer specific and unofficial?)!

[DicKy]

Originally Posted by volkman10

New details emerge, but not sure of its credibility!

This includes an optional 1.5-ltr K-series petrol engine from Brezza (with exactly the same specs!). Additionally, Maruti Suzuki India Ltd is now working hard to get a good safety score. The next-gen Maruti Baleno will feature a strengthened platform
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the top-end Alpha trim will sport a 1.5-liter K-Series petrol engine option (seen on Maruti Vitara Brezza) that produces 103bhp of power and 138Nm of torque.

They are sure of increasing the price a fair bit for the strengthened platform/6 airbag/ESP equipped model, so to compensate for that they are plonking in the 1.5l? a la Innova 2.8?

Well, if they are willing to lose the tax advantage could have brought in the 1.4 boosterjet.

Hope the 1.5l variant gets the new 6 speed gearbox and also rear discs like the erstwhile Baleno RS.

[romeomidhun]

Originally Posted by volkman10

Updated Baleno bookings open (dealer specific and unofficial?)!

I don't think this image is of the new Baleno. The headlamps design and grill design seems different from what we saw in earlier clear spy images.

[theAutomaniac]

Originally Posted by volkman10

New details emerge, but not sure of its credibility!

Okay so I just talked to my friend who works at Maruti and they have confirmed that the Baleno WILL get a 1.5L engine as an option. As per them, this engine will be a hybrid and will take place of the diesels and Boosterjet in Baleno's lineup!
They are yet to confirm if it will be the existing SHVS or the new dualjet K15 but they said they will soon confirm details on the hybrid and transmission after confirming with the concerned guys.

And yes, the source is trustworthy as they have earlier shared updates and designs about upcoming Marutis with me and most of them have turned out to be true. Fingers crossed for this one.

Will update once I have more details.

P.S.- Also regarding all the 5 star rumors, Maruti has not targeted any score internally. All these rumors are a result of media websites trying to spread rumors so as to get higher website clicks. They are using strengthened materials this time around but haven't set any targets.

[DicKy]

Originally Posted by theAutomaniac

Okay so I just talked to my friend who works at Maruti and they have confirmed that the Baleno WILL get a 1.5L engine as an option. As per them, this engine will be a hybrid and will take place of the diesels and Boosterjet in Baleno's lineup!
They are yet to confirm if it will be the existing SHVS or the new dualjet K15 but they said they will soon confirm details on the hybrid and transmission after confirming with the concerned guys.

There doesn't seem to be a dualjet version of the K15.

Realistically - 1.5 SHVS plucked from the Brezza/Ertiga/Ciaz plonked into the Baleno.

If wishes were horses - A proper hybrid that would have an ARAI figure of 30+kmpl.

[theAutomaniac]

Originally Posted by DicKy

There doesn't seem to be a dualjet version of the K15.

Well it seems there is one recently developed unit-

Originally Posted by volkman10

Suzuki Hybrid: - Would be cost effective

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Though seeing the specs, even I would find it hard to digest if this is the engine that will make it to the Baleno, as it would lead to severely high price for the said variants.

Realistically - 1.5 SHVS plucked from the Brezza/Ertiga/Ciaz plonked into the Baleno.

Seems like it but that won't serve any "typical Maruti-type" extra benefits except acting as a Baleno RS (though still not a bad thing when the competition runs on 3 cylinders! )

[Chetan_Rao]

A 1.5L motor that reportedly makes only about 15% extra power and 20% extra torque over the very competent 1.2 Dualjet, and would lose tax benefits? Unless there's a huge hybrid price incentive to offset that, it makes very little sense.

Alpha CVT variants are already pushing 12L OTR Bangalore, this one will go a good chunk higher.

All of it, on a lightweight car that's a neutral handler at best? Doesn't seem to add up, but would be a nice deviation from Maruti's usual 'special variant' shenanigans if it happens.

[volkman10]

Originally Posted by DicKy

There doesn't seem to be a dualjet version of the K15.

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There is the 1.5 Dualjet K15C, launching in the Vitara Strong Hybrid .

The operation of the 1462cc four-cylinder petrol engine is improved by increased compression and double injection. The compression ratio is 13.0:1, good high value and efficiency is also improved by direct gasoline injection.

K15C is the engine's factory code. The control of both suction and exhaust valves varies, not the valve lift is switched, but the opening and closing times are changed. The gasoline engine at 6000 rpm has 102 horsepower, which is 75 kW. It can deliver 138 Nm of torque at 4400 rpm.

And if Baleno gets the strong Hybrid it could be this( as below) and the variant could get the ASG Transmission.( Hybrid system developed by Suzuki)

The Full Hybrid powertrain is mated to a six-speed automatic transmission as standard. An electric motor with 24 kW (33 hp) works together with a 1.5-litre four-cylinder petrol engine with 75 kW (102 hp), so that both hybrid driving and fully electric can be driven. Together they are good for a combined output of 85 kW (115 hp)

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2022 Maruti Baleno Teased – 4 New Colour Options Leak

Launching on Feb- 10th ?

4 new colours are – Splendid Silver, Grandeur Grey, Opulent Red and Celestial Blue.

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[volkman10]

Originally Posted by theAutomaniac

Okay so I just talked to my friend who works at Maruti and they have confirmed that the Baleno WILL get a 1.5L engine as an option. As per them, this engine will be a hybrid and will take place of the diesels and Boosterjet in Baleno's lineup!
They are yet to confirm if it will be the existing SHVS or the new dualjet K15 but they said they will soon confirm details on the hybrid and transmission after confirming with the concerned guys.

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Looks credible (Strong Hybrid), after all they were testing this just a year back:




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[DriveOnceMore]

Originally Posted by volkman10

Updated Baleno bookings open (dealer specific and unofficial?)!

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This image is of updated S-cross from Europe.
It is definitely not the new Baleno.
Looks like a local job by a (over) enthusiastic dealer.

[romeomidhun]

Originally Posted by DriveOnceMore

Looks like a local job by a (over) enthusiastic dealer.

Seems correct. The "SEVA" NEXA is in Nagpur.

Also, the image doesn't match with European SCross 2022 also - the headlamps are still different.

SCross 2022:



Update: this is based on a render appeared here: https://www.rushlane.com/2022-maruti...-12412277.html - not the actual Baleno.



Actual new Baleno:

[theAutomaniac]

Originally Posted by volkman10

Looks credible (Strong Hybrid), after all they were testing this just a year back:Link

This just makes more sense!

Originally Posted by Chetan_Rao

it makes very little sense.

Alpha CVT variants are already pushing 12L OTR Bangalore, this one will go a good chunk higher.

All of it, on a lightweight car that's a neutral handler at best?

Knowing Maruti, I am damn sure that performance or handling would not be the first preference behind offering a 1.5L Baleno.

Here's why I believe Suzuki would have opted to offer the K15C in the Baleno (i.e. if they actually did!)-

1. Saving costs- Maruti has plonked a CNG in almost every car in lower segments and the Swift and Dzire have already been spotted testing the same. Now, since Maruti is one of the most conscious carmakers, it would make more sense to just offer the 1.5L in the Baleno hybrid as it seems to be the only car suitable for this engine as everything below gets a CNG and everything above gets a 1.5L. Hence, developing a 1.2L Hybrid just for the Baleno (and probably the upcoming YTB) makes no sense.

2. Higher costs? Alternatives have taken care of it- While Moderator Chetan_Rao rightly pointed out that Baleno CVT already costs 11.5L in Bangalore, the competition isn't cheap either.
Let's assume that with the 1.5L and all the new tech, the new Baleno's top spec variant could be more expensive by 2 Lakhs at max. Now, even with this humongous price increase, the Baleno Hybrid would still undercut the i20 by 70k! And since the only alternatives at this price would be the Nexon, i20, Venue, Sonet etc., the Hybrid would still find customers as it would be as feature loaded as the others (except sunroof), would be powerful enough (100+hp on a 950kg car!) and much more economical!

After writing all this, even I am convinced that this combination could potentially kill the market....... only if Maruti actually offers this!

Originally Posted by romeomidhun

Also, the image doesn't match with European SCross 2022 also - the headlamps are still different.

The car on the dealer's teaser is a Baleno render by RushLane and not an actual car!
The lazy dealer just took the render and the "Big new Surprise" line from Maruti's old post on their nexaexperience (Maruti teases "A Big Surprise" for the Baleno) Instagram page
and coupled them to create this "teaser"

[volkman10]

Originally Posted by romeomidhun

Seems correct. The "SEVA" NEXA is in Nagpur.
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True. Dealer uses rendering for FAKE Teaser of 2022 Maruti Baleno

[Carma2017]

I don't know where this news came from but I am close to 100% sure (can't say full 100% as Suzuki is unpredictable), that there is no 1.5L engine for Indian market for the time being at least. We will have to live with 1.2L engine only. And there is no talk of any strong hybrid either. It is likely to be the Mild hybrid only.

There is a pseudo SUV (like the current 4m hatch which claim to be SUVs) planned based on Baleno as reported widely. That may be equipped with newer powertrains.