Cars that need Design Change

ajmat · 25th March 2004, 19:32

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Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (manticore @ Mar. 25 2004,16:38)]HM's carrying out the same job they did for the last 50 years......changing the grilles. now they have totally ruined the amby......and they are doing the same thing with the lancer too. hope mitsu inc, japan doesnt have to close down 'coz of HM......hehe.

Mtsu would have sold each lancer kit to HM and got the money in the bank. volumes hardly anything to bankrupt it

manticore · 26th March 2004, 18:24

ajmat, i was just kidding. just meant to say that HM is so bad with its strategies and policies.

Aditya · 27th March 2004, 01:36

I was just thinking about the Conti.... all the mods that you guys suggested (thanks V12) and a V8... 5.7L General Motors - who wouldn't wanna see such a car spinning its wheels and powersliding!
Indian muscle car. Now if only I could arrange the finance.....

anshumanbishnoi · 30th March 2004, 18:17

the scorpiuo needs a rear suspension change to make it a perfect package and the stepney must be mounted on the tailgate,as for safari headlights needs to be changed,indica,santroand accent need smart looking grilles,ikon nxt sxi looks good but needs better alloys and leather upholstery,new zen looks shit,esteem needs to be discountinued and replaced by some good car,all of the maruti cars need better gearing,palio diesel needs turbo or crdi,indica dls needs a heater,............................

Dippy · 30th March 2004, 23:03

On the cars mentioned for a design change:

The Qualis does need a look . The quality of the car may be good but it certainly needs new looks for its other virtues. I saw the Kijang in Kula Lumpur and its a great looker. I feel Toyota should get it in soon to compete with the Chevy Tavera.

About the Contessa, I just love it. The amount of fun we've had in Adityas Conti is something else. Infact we had gone to buy it together. The looks should remain the same with some fine touches which phead mentioned and better rubber with delicious alloys to match. I'd love to see the Conti with a V8.

Safari is a goner right now and like GTO said a petrol engine and goods ads wont save it. They need a better engine atleast a 2.5 turbo to stay in the picture but I fell it should be replaced with something better and TATA please iron out the niggling problems..

The new Zen is horrible and I'm glad I own the earlier model . It still looks pretty modern inspite of competition. The 800 cannot be replaced cause its not possible to build a car at so low production costs anywhere in the world.

Hyundai no comments

Cheers

ported_head · 30th March 2004, 23:44

you know what else needs a design change? the 'refreshingly new' Indica V2. i guess they tried to copy the Focus big time. but they failed miserably. the grill is all wrong. the tacky flared fenders was sad and the gap in the arch is glaring because they obviously haven't given it bigger tyres. the rear lights look too out of place and very economised. looks straight out of those toy indica cars. ahh well. i really respect Dr. Sumantran, he is an absolute car buff, but i just dont see any reason to whats happening.

GTO · 31st March 2004, 18:56

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Quote[/b] ] i guess they tried to copy the Focus big time

LOL, thats done me for the day

GTO

v12 · 31st March 2004, 19:02

ya even the Indica needs a major facelift. i'm fed up of the smiling grille. now how abt a "frowning"/"angry" grille

Dippy · 31st March 2004, 19:37

The most hidious thing bout the new Indica is those wheel arches. The tyres look hidden inside and look even more skinny. Such wheel arches look only good if your tyres come out a bit with a good set of alloys

Cheers

v12 · 31st March 2004, 19:42

ur right dippy. the wheels shud be inline with the wheelarches. Even the Lancer has the same problem.

GTO · 31st March 2004, 21:43

And to further the Lancers problem, Metro Motors (Mitsubishis company owned and flagship Bombay dealer) has modded this Lancer for an additional 3.5 lacs. The wheel archs protrude atleast 4 inches out of the alloy wheels. Plain ugly.

Maybe they should just hire car guys in such departments

GTO

Revvmaster · 31st March 2004, 22:35

Well put GTO, the Baleno could do with a facelift. And dippy and p-head, spot-on. The new Indica needs wider tyres now to fill those arches. How about 205/15s in the front and 225s at the rear just to fill em....

Revv

Dippy · 1st April 2004, 00:11

Yeah and the frowning grille

Cheers

toyota · 1st April 2004, 09:14

Most often when i see a Qualis i remember my old days when i used to make car out of Cig packs and coke bottle caps !!!

toyota · 1st April 2004, 09:18

Amby they should have made the engine powerful and should have updated the interiors . All these days they have been doing the same car and with same Quality . With 200% local parts they would have given a better car like M800 in the small car segment . Anyway that is the way Birla Group handles their business . Just few years back they sold out their Heavy Erath Moving Business to its partner CATERPILLAR.

Contessa , as said in the earlier messages would have been upgraded with a powerful engine abd could have become a Cult car.

Lancer is selling on its own but if it fails it will be due to HM.

26th March 2004, 18:24	#17
manticore BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Cochin/New Delhi Posts: 298 Thanked: 8 Times	ajmat, i was just kidding. just meant to say that HM is so bad with its strategies and policies.
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27th March 2004, 01:36	#18
Aditya Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 17,804 Thanked: 76,768 Times View My Garage	I was just thinking about the Conti.... all the mods that you guys suggested (thanks V12) and a V8... 5.7L General Motors - who wouldn't wanna see such a car spinning its wheels and powersliding! Indian muscle car. Now if only I could arrange the finance.....
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30th March 2004, 18:17	#19
anshumanbishnoi Newbie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: india Posts: 5 Thanked: 0 Times	the scorpiuo needs a rear suspension change to make it a perfect package and the stepney must be mounted on the tailgate,as for safari headlights needs to be changed,indica,santroand accent need smart looking grilles,ikon nxt sxi looks good but needs better alloys and leather upholstery,new zen looks shit,esteem needs to be discountinued and replaced by some good car,all of the maruti cars need better gearing,palio diesel needs turbo or crdi,indica dls needs a heater,............................
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30th March 2004, 23:03	#20
Dippy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,557 Thanked: 2,459 Times	On the cars mentioned for a design change: The Qualis does need a look . The quality of the car may be good but it certainly needs new looks for its other virtues. I saw the Kijang in Kula Lumpur and its a great looker. I feel Toyota should get it in soon to compete with the Chevy Tavera. About the Contessa, I just love it. The amount of fun we've had in Adityas Conti is something else. Infact we had gone to buy it together. The looks should remain the same with some fine touches which phead mentioned and better rubber with delicious alloys to match. I'd love to see the Conti with a V8. Safari is a goner right now and like GTO said a petrol engine and goods ads wont save it. They need a better engine atleast a 2.5 turbo to stay in the picture but I fell it should be replaced with something better and TATA please iron out the niggling problems.. The new Zen is horrible and I'm glad I own the earlier model . It still looks pretty modern inspite of competition. The 800 cannot be replaced cause its not possible to build a car at so low production costs anywhere in the world. Hyundai no comments Cheers
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30th March 2004, 23:44	#21
ported_head Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 2,387 Thanked: 20 Times	you know what else needs a design change? the 'refreshingly new' Indica V2. i guess they tried to copy the Focus big time. but they failed miserably. the grill is all wrong. the tacky flared fenders was sad and the gap in the arch is glaring because they obviously haven't given it bigger tyres. the rear lights look too out of place and very economised. looks straight out of those toy indica cars. ahh well. i really respect Dr. Sumantran, he is an absolute car buff, but i just dont see any reason to whats happening.
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31st March 2004, 19:02	#23
v12 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,739 Thanked: 7,212 Times View My Garage	ya even the Indica needs a major facelift. i'm fed up of the smiling grille. now how abt a "frowning"/"angry" grille
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31st March 2004, 19:37	#24
Dippy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,557 Thanked: 2,459 Times	The most hidious thing bout the new Indica is those wheel arches. The tyres look hidden inside and look even more skinny. Such wheel arches look only good if your tyres come out a bit with a good set of alloys Cheers
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31st March 2004, 19:42	#25
v12 Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 6,739 Thanked: 7,212 Times View My Garage	ur right dippy. the wheels shud be inline with the wheelarches. Even the Lancer has the same problem.
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31st March 2004, 21:43	#26
GTO Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 70,497 Thanked: 300,308 Times View My Garage	And to further the Lancers problem, Metro Motors (Mitsubishis company owned and flagship Bombay dealer) has modded this Lancer for an additional 3.5 lacs. The wheel archs protrude atleast 4 inches out of the alloy wheels. Plain ugly. Maybe they should just hire car guys in such departments GTO
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31st March 2004, 22:35	#27
Revvmaster Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Bombay Posts: 1,190 Thanked: 95 Times	Well put GTO, the Baleno could do with a facelift. And dippy and p-head, spot-on. The new Indica needs wider tyres now to fill those arches. How about 205/15s in the front and 225s at the rear just to fill em.... Revv
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1st April 2004, 00:11	#28
Dippy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,557 Thanked: 2,459 Times	Yeah and the frowning grille Cheers
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1st April 2004, 09:14	#29
toyota BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: bangalore Posts: 148 Thanked: 3 Times	Most often when i see a Qualis i remember my old days when i used to make car out of Cig packs and coke bottle caps !!!
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1st April 2004, 09:18	#30
toyota BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: bangalore Posts: 148 Thanked: 3 Times	Amby they should have made the engine powerful and should have updated the interiors . All these days they have been doing the same car and with same Quality . With 200% local parts they would have given a better car like M800 in the small car segment . Anyway that is the way Birla Group handles their business . Just few years back they sold out their Heavy Erath Moving Business to its partner CATERPILLAR. Contessa , as said in the earlier messages would have been upgraded with a powerful engine abd could have become a Cult car. Lancer is selling on its own but if it fails it will be due to HM.
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