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Old 13th June 2022, 09:12   #271
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re: Maruti & Toyota's Creta-rivaling midsize SUV revealed - Urban Cruiser Hyryder

This is the Toyota version of the S Cross replacement (for Suzuki) and Urban Cruiser replacement (for Toyota), alternatively known as D22 / YFG etc as discussed in forums.

The new Brezza does not have a strong hybrid version, yet. Maybe Suzuki will plonk something a couple of years down the line.
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Can this be the restyled upcoming Brezza from Toyota's stable as a replacement for the existing Urban Cruiser?
Looking at the bit of the side profile in the image, for a wild moment I thought there could be a new Urban Cruiser but based on the Yaris Cross and not the Brezza. But it doesn't really make sense because there don't seem to be plans for localising TNGA, and the front-end is the D22 element-for-element (see above post).

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re: Maruti & Toyota's Creta-rivaling midsize SUV revealed - Urban Cruiser Hyryder

Looks like the new Vitara Brezza, no?

I doubt Toyota is getting an all new car to India. Surely, they don't expect it to be mass-market if its going to be pricey.

Dimensions also look pretty similar to the Brezza.
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re: Maruti & Toyota's Creta-rivaling midsize SUV revealed - Urban Cruiser Hyryder

could it just be the Toyota version of Brezza refresh ? car seems like Brezza size or is it just the camera tricking me.
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re: Maruti & Toyota's Creta-rivaling midsize SUV revealed - Urban Cruiser Hyryder

Toyota’s upcoming midsize SUV will be christened the Toyota Urban Cruiser Hyryder, dealer sources have confirmed.

This new SUV will be shown for the first time on July 1, 2022.

- Toyota will expand the Urban Cruiser SUV line-up in India with a second model, which will have the Hyryder suffix.

- The full hybrid version of the Toyota Urban Cruiser Hyryder will come with Toyota’s hybrid system similar to the ones seen on the Prius and Camry hybrid.


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re: Maruti & Toyota's Creta-rivaling midsize SUV revealed - Urban Cruiser Hyryder

Market is eagerly waiting for Creta/Seltos rival that other manufacturers are unable to address. If Toyota is really launching an updated Urban Cruiser with in 4.0 m length, it disappoints the market. Since some discussion was already started about mild hybrid and strong hybrid variants, there is some expectation from market now about a medium sized car within the size of Creta/Seltos. Let us hope that Toyota is not going to disappoint.

If Toyota launches updated UC with Hybrid option, that might sell denting other cars like Venue/Sonet/Brezza/Magnite/Kiger/Nexon, but can't really fight strongly with Creta/Seltos.
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Can this be the restyled upcoming Brezza from Toyota's stable as a replacement for the existing Urban Cruiser? Can't comment much as the length is not visible.
Hi. As per my dealer sources this will be the updated UC based on the Breeza which you rightly said is launching on June 30th. They are not clear on the drive trains as yet. The replacement for S-cross and mid size SUV is expected to be launched around Diwali
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If Toyota is really launching an updated Urban Cruiser with in 4.0 m length, it disappoints the market.
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Ahead of its global debut, details of the new midsize SUV from Toyota have begun to trickle in. Sources tell us that Toyota will expand the Urban Cruiser SUV line-up in India with a second model, which will have the Hyryder suffix. This new SUV, not to be mistaken with the Vitara Brezza-based Urban Cruiser, will be a completely different and bigger vehicle. The SUV will be over four metres long and sit above the current Urban Cruiser, which could also see a full model change in the near future.
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re: Maruti & Toyota's Creta-rivaling midsize SUV revealed - Urban Cruiser Hyryder

Just want to clarify if this is a pure Toyota model being introduced or another badge engineered product from Suzuki, under the Toyota-Suzuki partnership (like the Baleno-Glanza)?

Apologies for the silly question!
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Just want to clarify if this is a pure Toyota model being introduced or another badge engineered product from Suzuki, under the Toyota-Suzuki partnership (like the Baleno-Glanza)?

Apologies for the silly question!
Badge engineered, but this time the collaboration will be deeper than before. From what I gathered from the rumours in this thread, the car uses Suzuki's parts and platform with a mix of Suzuki engine option for the mild hybrid version and a Toyota engine for the strong hybrid version. Both the Toyota and Suzuki versions will be assembled in Toyota Kirloskar's plant in Bidadi with supervision from Maruti Suzuki. The Suzuki version will be unveiled after the Toyota, which is unusual too.
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Just want to clarify if this is a pure Toyota model being introduced or another badge engineered product from Suzuki, under the Toyota-Suzuki partnership (like the Baleno-Glanza)?

Apologies for the silly question!
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The Hyryder is said to be based on a localized version of Toyota’s TNGA-B platform. Maruti Suzuki will also offer a similar product based on the same platform.
From what I see the vehicle is based on Toyota platform - so its not badge engineering. Its possibly going to re-use some of the other parts from both Toyota-Maruti stable but good news is that the base platform is from Toyota and NOT the "Heartect" (read Tin-Can) Platform.

Pure speculation, but if the Toyota Platform turns out to be good in Safety, then we would be left with only tin-cans from Hyun-die and Kia. And they would be forced to improve as well due to competitive pressure.

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From what I see the vehicle is based on Toyota platform - so its not badge engineering. Its possibly going to re-use some of the other parts from both Toyota-Maruti stable but good news is that the base platform is from Toyota and NOT the "Heartect" (read Tin-Can) Platform.

Pure speculation, but if the Toyota Platform turns out to be good in Safety, then we would be left with only tin-cans from Hyun-die and Kia. And they would be forced to improve as well due to competitive pressure.
Yes this does seem to be a collaborative effort and inspiration has been taken from Grand Vitara as well so that might have been the starting point over which the new cars are built.
Also safety should not be an issue since even the Current Brezza is a 4 star car and this is supposed to be newly built along with Toyota and at a more premium price.
Will have to see if the Full hybrid version is able to take place of the Turbo Petrol and Turbo Diesel engines that this car lacks. It for sure won't be as enthusiastic as the Hyundai's Turbo petrol, but if it delivers about the same level of performance as the Diesel and great mileage (something which the turbo petrols sorely lack), I don't why it won't work.
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Just want to clarify if this is a pure Toyota model being introduced or another badge engineered product from Suzuki, under the Toyota-Suzuki partnership (like the Baleno-Glanza)?

Apologies for the silly question!
From the profile of the camouflaged cars, it looks like a heavily revised version of the 4th gen/2015 Suzuki Vitara that's sold globally.
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Autocar renders the leaked Hyryder pic.
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Autocar renders the leaked Hyryder pic.
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This looks very much like the new S-Cross for Europe.
Isn't this supposed to be the all new car rather than their usual badge engineering stuff?
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