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Old 26th August 2022, 16:48   #1276
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Re: Maruti & Toyota's Creta-rivaling midsize SUV revealed - Urban Cruiser Hyryder

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A report on real-world fuel efficiency on the strong hybrid variant of the Hyryder

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If this is true on a strong hybrid, then the USP is lost here itself. All the hype, compromises tolerated are just for the economy of 28kmpl, atleast ~24kmpl.
Then what would be the mileage on mild hybrid 7-9kmpl?
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I believe 15.8kmpl is a good mileage for a heavy foot driving where similar normal car will give 9-11kmpl. A 30-40% improvement of mileage should be expected.

I wanted to know what will be the mileage when used at constant highway speeds, where regen will be minimum and the car runs in engine mode.
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I wanted to know what will be the mileage when used at constant highway speeds, where regen will be minimum and the car runs in engine mode.
Same here. I thought it would be significantly lesser because of the reduced regen. But check out this video of the Honda City Hybrid. They got a FE of 36kmpl while driving from Bangalore to Mumbai. They covered it using just 28 litres of fuel to cover 1000km. Of course, fuel-saving driving techniques were at their maximum, but 36kmpl is still quite something.

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Re: Maruti & Toyota's Creta-rivaling midsize SUV revealed - Urban Cruiser Hyryder

Toyota to reveal the Hyryder’s prices next week. Grand Vitara price announcement will follow the Hyryder reveal.

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Toyota is going to reveal the prices of the Hyryder compact SUV by early next week.
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The Hyryder is expected to be priced from around Rs 9.5 lakh (ex-showroom).

Based on the available details, we reckon that the entry-level strong-hybrid will be priced under Rs 20 lakh on-road.
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Just curious, who are the gentlemen from Team BHP who took out the HyRyder for a spin during the media drive?
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A report on real-world fuel efficiency on the strong hybrid variant of the Hyryder

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Looking forward to the T-BHP review on Sunday! My biggest hope is that the refinement has not been sacrificed too much to keep costs low (if they are low, that is)
Wow. That is much lower than what I expect from a strong hybrid. Would expect atleast 20kmpl on road within city and highways. If it is just 16kmpl, I am not sure how much a non-hybrid variant would give.
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Wow. That is much lower than what I expect from a strong hybrid. Would expect atleast 20kmpl on road within city and highways. If it is just 16kmpl, I am not sure how much a non-hybrid variant would give.
Somehow, I am taking this data with a pinch of salt. My sense is that even an ordinary 1.5 litre NA car (example Honda City) would give an average of around 15-16 kmpl on a city highway mixed driving.

Now, this one running on Atkinson cycle in efficient RPM range, is expected to run more efficiently by 30-40% higher than Otto cycle in NA, plus electric braking regen, should do much better in real life conditions.

If you look at the hypermiling example of the Honda City Hybrid or the generally known mileage figures of the Toyota Yaris, I am finding it hard to accept this figure till we have more repeatable data.

So far, I am unable to justify this figure, purely based on engineering theory.

Also we need to drive a Hybrid like a hybrid, and not like a VW DSG to achieve the mileage in the desired range.

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Media cars are often left idling for hours during shoots, and driven spiritedly very often. So even after this getting 15kmpl is a massive feat, a non-hybrid would've got around 8-10kmpl in the same scenario.
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Hey Guys , They have clearly mentioned that Sirish was driving with a heavy foot. So this might be the worst mileage you might get if you are in some mood to wring the powertrain to its limits.
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Hey Guys , They have clearly mentioned that Sirish was driving with a heavy foot. So this might be the worst mileage you might get if you are in some mood to wring the powertrain to its limits.
To add, it looks like the car was taken up Nandi Hills too. If 15.8kmpl is the FE after a drive up Nandi Hills, I'd be quite surprised.

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Toyota packing heat with #Hyryder. Opinions embargoed but when a car lifts an inside rear wheel & hold its line you know the driver is more �� than ��

This thing surprised me while sending it up Nandi Hills. More when embargo lifts on Monday

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To add, it looks like the car was taken up Nandi Hills too. If 15.8kmpl is the FE after a drive up Nandi Hills, I'd be quite surprised.

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I was surprised by the rear wheel lift off in the video in the link posted by Ashwin. They had placed a GoProHero camera on the ground to capture the exact moment. Trying to pull off a stunt?

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Just curious, who are the gentlemen from Team BHP who took out the HyRyder for a spin during the media drive?
Vid6639 and myself
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Looking forward for the review to be up and about once the embargo lifts up. We have a Hyryder as well as the Grand Vitara booked, top end Hybrids. It has to be either of these two. I hope there is no disappointment.
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Re: Maruti & Toyota's Creta-rivaling midsize SUV revealed - Urban Cruiser Hyryder

Check this for boot space of strong hybrid variant of HyRyder. It's around 250L as per video.


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Check this for boot space of strong hybrid variant of HyRyder. It's around 250L as per video.
Horrible utilization of space due to that false floor! Looks worse than cars like the XUV 3OO which had one of the smallest boots for a premium car, till date!

Wonder if this 250L (official?) includes the space below the false floor too? The Maruti Alto we reviewed last week had only 214 litres - but we could keep a cabin sized suitcase standing with the parcel tray down. Two such pieces and two additional bags would fit.



Looks like this boot can accomodate only two such pieces, flat sideways. 250L sounds over optimistic if it's a guess from Motor Octane or if claimed officially - Toyota may have included space below the false floor, like companies like Hyundai claim!

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