[speedmiester]

Originally Posted by volkman10

- In the pure EV mode, the car is expected to run for about 80-100 km

Is this a typo, this must be 8-10Kms.
For a range of 80-100kms, the battery capacity should be at least 10KW. Doubt the Hyryder will come with such high capacity battery to keep the costs under check. Even the Toyota Prius offers a pure EV range of 40Kms with a 8.8KW battery.

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by RahulNagaraj

The Toyota Hyryder will take on the Hyundai Creta, Kia Seltos, MG Astor, Skoda Kushaq and others. The Hyryder SUV will share its underpinnings with Maruti's upcoming mid-size SUV, codenamed YFG. The Maruti SUV, though, is expected to arrive at a slightly later stage and have a different identity of its own.

Unlike Fortuner and Innova, which are virtually unchallenged, this thing will face some serious competition.

This tag team match will be an interesting thing to witness, Hyundai + Kia vs Toyota + Maruti.

More options = Good times for the consumer?

On the flip side, I will not be surprised if Toyota positions this at a premium over the competitors. The poorer (Maruti) twin can undercut or be at par with the rest. This becomes even more plausible when you look at that feature list. I guess we will find out soon.

[adimicra]

Though I am not a prospective customer, I am looking forward to this launch.
Though there is lot of competition in this segment, I strongly feel there are a set of customers who are not satisfied with the options available and will be willing to go for a Japanese SUV in this segment.

Along with the pricing and the feature set, Toyota needs to capitalize on the fact that the Hyundai/Kia twins have poor safety rating/crash test results; so, they should provide 5* NCAP rating right at the time of launch. The safety aspect along with the Hybrid powertrain coupled with Toyota brand-name and bulletproof reliability can make this a huge success and really take it to the Korean twins. I am intentionally not mentioning the VW/Skoda twins as major competition as I feel the VAG 2.0 cars do not have the quality/finesse or features or road presence to take on the Koreans, as evident from the sales figures.

Good luck, Toyota.. give us a world-class product and not some cheap quality third-world stuff like the Etios (no offence to owners)

[LoveMyHyundai]

For me, every other mid-size SUV is a no-go when this is launched, simply because the engine+gearbox are technologically miles ahead; the eCVT is one of the simplest and most reliable/bulletproof CVTs ever. You get to have your cake and eat it too (great mileage from the Atkinson cycle engine).

[romeomidhun]

So, Maruti will be launching the new sub-4m Brezza on June 30th and Toyota will be launching the new 4+ meter long D22 as "Urban Cruiser HyRyder" on July 1st. Brezza will have a significant price hike, and HyRyder will be priced even more. Toyota can ride on the success of UC, and people will think that it is the usual Toyota premium. Later, Maruti can piggy-back their new Vitara on the HyRyder.

[volkman10]

New details of the SUV:

- Toyota will offer Hyryder with a 1.5-litre petrol engine in both mild-hybrid and strong hybrid versions.

- The version with the mild-hybrid system will get manual and automatic transmission choices.

- The strong hybrid powertrain will employ an e-CVT

- It will also get AWD, but only with the mild-hybrid powertrain.

-The self-charging strong hybrid powertrain will only be available with front-wheel drive (FWD).

- The mild-hybrid powertrain of the Toyota Hyryder will get the choice of 6-speed manual and torque converter automatic transmissions.

- The more affordable option will come with mild-hybrid tech only.

-Maruti’s SUV based on the Hyryder will get the same powertrain options, including AWD.

Toyota’s Hyryder will get a 1.5-litre petrol engine, both with mild-hybrid and strong-hybrid technology options. The mild-hybrid motor will get the first-in-segment all-wheel drive option, while the strong-hybrid power unit, which will comprise a powerful electric motor, will be spinning the front wheels only

Toyota will offer the mild-hybrid Hyryder with the choice of AWD and FWD. However, the strong hybrid powertrain will be a two-wheel drive (2WD) offering only. It will be the first compact SUV to offer AWD

1.5-litre engine for these SUVs will be the latest 1.5-litre K15C from Maruti.

will get an e-CVT, which should offer a smoother driving experience.

Prices of the SUVs are likely to start from around ₹ 10.5 lakh

Link

[Mumbaiker]

This will be an interesting launch. I hope it looks better than the brezza which I personally don't like.
I already have the eHev pre-booked but there has been no news about the car deliveries. If this one is competitively priced and has a better boot space compared to the 306lts of eHev, I might even switch over.
*fingers crossed*

[pram_ind]

Originally Posted by volkman10

Toyota's ( and Maruti's) Mid SUV, more details emerge:

- 3 drive modes – pure petrol, hybrid drive, and pure EV.

- In the pure EV mode, the car is expected to run for about 80-100 km

- Overall fuel efficiency is expected to be upwards of 23 km/litre.

The description is similar to Toyotas Rav4 plugin Hybrid / Suzuki Across Plug In Hybrid.
In India, external features might look the same with less features and with strong hybrid tech, but not a plugin one.
IF you see the strong hybrid technology, both Toyota and Honda use the same principle, but the difference lies in the gearbox.
So like Honda, they might also use 2KWH battery, which will be used for initial acceleration.

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[DicKy]

Originally Posted by volkman10

-The 1.5-litre engine will be sourced from Maruti

Expected, but a bummer to hear.

Originally Posted by volkman10

-Mild-hybrid offering will get all-wheel drive, while strong-hybrid will be front-wheel drive only.

Sure? Feels like it will be the opposite.

The only way Toyota and Maruti is going to offer AWD in this segment is via the hybrid. Toyota is offering AWD in almost all hybrids by their E-Four system. Just an electric motor for the rear wheels, with none of the propshafts packaging/cost issues.

Would be glad to be proven wrong, if the Suzuki Allgrip is offered with the K14 boosterjet.

[adimicra]

^^

Good to see the new technology being introduced by Toyota.
However, little disappointed to see the power output - 103PS and 116 PS seems very mediocre in this segment.

[ashwin.terminat]

Originally Posted by volkman10

Toyota's ( and Maruti's) Mid SUV, more details emerge:

- In the pure EV mode, the car is expected to run for about 80-100 km

Link

Dumb question perhaps.

The pure EV range seems high enough to easily handle the daily urban commute.

What stops manufacturers from providing a way to charge the batteries using a wall charger rather than just the generator/engine? It would reduce daily running costs to a minimum while the generator/engines removes range anxiety on longer drives. Kind of the best of both worlds.

[sumeethaldankar]

What's an E-CVT and how different it will be from the regular CVT?

Thanks.

[Hickstead]

Eagerly waiting for this Toyota/Suzuki combo from February after selling my car, of course have a beater Swift for now. Test drove all other cars in the segment and arrived at a point where I found no alternative for the Korean twins. Finally booked Creta with heavy heart due to not at all value for money proposition. I am not really sure whether Toyota is going to offer a VFM product, but happy to listen about the hybrid technology and different variants.
Strong Hybrid variant priced at 23-25 L OTR really dents the sales of Korean twins, unless they come with compelling face lifts soon.

[cuboid]

You are asking about a combination of SHEV and PHEV. One big challenge - COST. The plug-in hybrid would need another cost overhead in terms of charging system.

Originally Posted by ashwin.terminat

Dumb question perhaps.

What stops manufacturers from providing a way to charge the batteries using a wall charger rather than just the generator/engine? It would reduce daily running costs to a minimum while the generator/engines removes range anxiety on longer drives. Kind of the best of both worlds.

[ashwin.terminat]

Originally Posted by cuboid

You are asking about a combination of SHEV and PHEV. One big challenge - COST. The plug-in hybrid would need another cost overhead in terms of charging system.

How much additional cost will it incur, though? The charging system exists already. It just has to support another input source of power to the same charging system. (This could be a gross oversimplification. But it appears like cost is not the biggest constraint here).