[varunswnt]

IMO, it is a please all design and unmistakably recognisable as Innova with evolutionary approach. This works for Toyota to keep the appeal in brand.

I am interested is looking at engine performance and responsiveness with full load of passengers, Air-Conditioning and luggage across rpm range. 2.4 diesel is very good at low-mid rpm, no matter luggage and passenger load or uphill inclines. If the hybrid is able to carry on with this trait of effortless cruising of current Innova, then it is surely going to carry on replicating its success story in new avatar.

I am keenly watching out for lower variants of hybrid. Hope, it is not as bare bones as current gen GX in look and feel.

[jthomas]

Originally Posted by varunswnt

I am keenly watching out for lower variants of hybrid. Hope, it is not as bare bones as current gen GX in look and feel.

Same here. Looking out for an automatic variant mainly for highway run. Cancelled Carens Diesel AT booking last week due to:-

1. Prices increased (now at 18 lacs)
2. Middle row seats are not that comfortable

Current Innova petrol GX automatic cost 19 lakhs ex showroom. Hoping new hybrid base variant start at 20 lacs ex showroom.

[man_and_machine]

The best thing that can happen to EVs (and hybrids) is the Innova. It's a model too important for Toyota to fail. They will need to sell only the hybrid as tech and why it's equal if not better than the diesel. They don't need to sell the 'Why Innova'. This education has the secondary attribution affect on the over all market. So, everyone will benefit.
I think this might eventually also pave way for similar tech in the Fortuner, 2 years down the lane.
This is probably the most awaited launch of the year.

[chaotic]

Gosh, this looks like the hybrid version of the Veloz. If true, then this is a segment below the Innova, but the hybrid will bring it closer to Innova in prices here. Could Toyota spring a surprise and price a product competitively?

Here’s the Philippines site for veloz https://toyota.com.ph/veloz

[volkman10]

Inova Zenix Hybrid variant spotted with sunroof - Highest 'V' variant?

When compared to the previous white Innova photos, for the variant, the sunroof does look more luxurious. The front grille is made somewhat similar to the old model but has a more elegant packaging, while the headlights seem to have carried Led and it seems to be complete with DRL. Interestingly, when you look at it in more detail, it seems that there is a small box at the top of the windshield. It is strongly suspected that this could be the Toyota Safety Sense sensor camera (Tss).

On the side, right in the passenger front door area, there is an emblem that says hybrid and a chrome-plated doorhandle. As for the rearview mirror cover, it is presented with a combination of two colors, complete with turn signals. With a more luxurious appearance, this could be the V variant or even the highest of the Innova Zenix Hybrid family later.

Link

[DicKy]

Originally Posted by chaotic

Gosh, this looks like the hybrid version of the Veloz. If true, then this is a segment below the Innova, but the hybrid will bring it closer to Innova in prices here.

Since we have already seen the test mules in India and had the chance to look at the size in relative to other vehicles, the Hycross is clearly a size above the Avanza. It is not just the hybrid that is pushing the price up. The platform and engine itself means the price will be 20+ lakhs.

[McLaren Rulez]

Originally Posted by chaotic

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Gosh, this looks like the hybrid version of the Veloz. If true, then this is a segment below the Innova, but the hybrid will bring it closer to Innova in prices here. Could Toyota spring a surprise and price a product competitively?

Here’s the Philippines site for veloz https://toyota.com.ph/veloz

The front looks similar but the design is definitely better near the C-pillar. The Veloz screams van but the spy shots here seem to be more SUV like.

[Turbolove]

Originally Posted by dearchichi

Quick question. Would it make sense to get the Innova Hycross Hybrid for exclusive use as a highway cruiser? From what I understand, Hybrids work as regular ICEs at freeway speeds (100kmph +). Therefore, should such a petrol hybrid be considered at all?

Thank you.

The folks at Autocar checked precisely this. They compared a diesel, NA petrol and strong Hybrid. The Hybrid had better efficiency on the highway too. Now the Innova hybrid might have different tuning and performance, but the video can give you some pointers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDkVfdgnR0U

[Sankar]

Originally Posted by dearchichi

Quick question. Would it make sense to get the Innova Hycross Hybrid for exclusive use as a highway cruiser? From what I understand, Hybrids work as regular ICEs at freeway speeds (100kmph +). Therefore, should such a petrol hybrid be considered at all?

Thank you.

Hybrid is most efficient when engine runs in efficiency cycle and also lets the battery do its part. Brake regen helps to keep the battery topped but not so much on an open highway. At higher speeds the petrol engine has more work to do propelling the vehicle and charging the battery so efficiency drop is to be expected.

In the following video at speeds upto 90kph hybrid seems to yield good fuel efficiency but as rate of speed increase the efficiency seems to drop.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIDJeAtOFWQ

At higher speeds on an open road a similarly sized Diesel might return better or similar fuel efficiency when compared to a hybrid. So based on your cruising speed and intended usage you should decide.

[Aniket03]

Originally Posted by dearchichi

Quick question. Would it make sense to get the Innova Hycross Hybrid for exclusive use as a highway cruiser? From what I understand, Hybrids work as regular ICEs at freeway speeds (100kmph +). Therefore, should such a petrol hybrid be considered at all?

Thank you.

I can present my case, that led me to switch from Diesel Innova Crysta to Hybrid Petrol Hyryder for highway running .

Yearly Running - 40,000 kms - 80% highway,20% city
Innova Cost - 14.2 KMPL average, Rs 90/L Diesel
Running Cost - Rs 6.33 per KM
Hyryder Cost - 25 KMPL average, Rs 98/L Petrol
Running Cost - Rs 3.92 per KM

Say Hycross gives an average of 20 KMPL, being heavier and bigger than Hyryder.
Running Cost - Rs 4.9 per KM
Average - 18KMPL, Cost - Rs. 5.44 per KM

Even if Petrol costs rise, I'm sure Diesel will not be behind in rate increase, so end of the day. So you can multiply, your average running per year/month so get a clear cost comparison.
That being said, there is no comparison in driving experience, the way Diesel engine pulls on the highway is unparalleled.

[thallipolivandi]

Originally Posted by chaotic

Gosh, this looks like the hybrid version of the Veloz. If true, then this is a segment below the Innova, but the hybrid will bring it closer to Innova in prices here. Could Toyota spring a surprise and price a product competitively?

Here’s the Philippines site for veloz https://toyota.com.ph/veloz

To be honest. This does look very similar to the images we see of the Hycross, in camouflage and without it. But there are some differences, the biggest of which is the size of the vehicle itself.

The Veloz is much closer in size to the Ertiga, than it is to the Crysta.

Crysta: 4,735 mm L x 1,830 mm W x 1,795 mm H
Veloz: 4475mm L x 1775mm W x 1700mm H
Ertiga: 4,395 mm L x 1,735 mm W x 1,690 mm H

(all dimensions sourced from only google searches)

This cannot quite simply be a car that sits above the Crysta in the lineup.

The other differences are minor and mostly cosmetic, like the bonnet hood, the bumpers, and the tail lights.

[nikhilthegunner]

Originally Posted by volkman10

First pics of the Innova Zenix Hybrid.

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Where did the zenix bit come from? First it was Hycross now Zenix?

Also, the car's side profile reminds me a lot of the X5. Is it just me?

[DicKy]

Originally Posted by nikhilthegunner

Where did the zenix bit come from? First it was Hycross now Zenix?

Indian market name is Innova Hycross.

Indonesian market name is Innova Zenix.

Ofcourse, we have to wait till the official unveil/ launch for confirmation.

[vjoy3]

sorry if am speaking out of context. But is there a smaller Innova that doesn't have the last row - a 5-seater?

[Turbanator]

Originally Posted by Aniket03

I can present my case, that led me to switch from Diesel Innova Crysta to Hybrid Petrol Hyryder for highway running.
Hyryder Cost - 25 KMPL average, Rs 98/L Petrol
Running Cost - Rs 3.92 per KM

A little OT for this thread but in the context you mentioned, are you actually getting 25Kmpl?

I will be very surprised if we get 20 Kmpl on Hybrid Innova on our highways.