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Old 10th January 2023, 11:10   #106
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If this SUV is to have any chance of succeeding in that segment, it absolutely has to be based on the City platform and not on the Amaze one.
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If Honda could update their 1.5 diesel for upcoming norms and offer it in this car, that would had been a big advantage for them.
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Really need a proper 1.5 SUV from Honda.
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They seem to be working on Amaze based SUV (WRV) which will be sub-4m and also a City based SUV (for Creta segment, but it is not HRV??) and we still don't know the exact timelines

The current SUV in discussion codenamed 3US is based on the current gen Amaze Platform, however the current amaze platform itself was redesigned and inspired from 4th Gen City exclusively for the Indian market unlike the previous gen which served South Asian markets as well. So the SUV though based on current gen amaze it will be no more Mobilio/BR-V.

On the powertrain it will be the same as 5th Gen City with both 1.5 NA MT/CVT & Hybrid options. However, Honda did contemplate having 1.2T Petrol also as an option.

On the exterior front it will take design cues from current HR-V on sale in international markets. On the interior front it will all be refreshed, but the same will be seen in Next Gen Amaze codenamed 3UR. [ when will honda learn to differentiate]

Further Honda has decided to launch a Second SUV but they are yet to figure out whether they should launch a Sub 4M SUV or 7 Seater against the likes of Alcazar/Safari. Hope we find clarity on this sooner.
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Old 10th January 2023, 11:15   #107
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HRV itself has two forms. One is the HRV/Vezel for Japan/Chinese market which is sub compact SUV, whereas the US/Europe version of the HRV is a compact SUV based out of Civic platform.
Both of these vehicles are relatively large and sit just below the CRV.

Given all these minor difference vehicles in the portfolio and confusing name plates, as others mentioned above, this is going to be a waiting game unless Honda gives out something specific.

So far, the only disappointing mention is that its Amaze based. No offence, but in our market that is expecting a HRV or CRV, bringing in a vehicle that is two platform short is not going to do well for Honda.
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Old 10th January 2023, 14:08   #108
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When a struggling manufacturer teases a new product, I get horrifying flashbacks of Chevrolet India and Ford India.

But I would be extremely happy with a good Honda SUV. I hope Honda India comes up with a appealing product and at a good price point as well.

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On the interior front it will all be refreshed, but the same will be seen in Next Gen Amaze codenamed 3UR. [ when will honda learn to differentiate]
Rather than the actual platform itself, this is the biggest problem caused by Platform sharing done by Honda. The interior of a car like the Amaze just will not cut it in a 20+Lakh SUV.
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Rather than the actual platform itself, this is the biggest problem caused by Platform sharing done by Honda. The interior of a car like the Amaze just will not cut it in a 20+Lakh SUV.
100% in agreement. The same "Part Sharing" excuse between German Twins is a major problem where say a Monte Carlo variant available at ~25L OTR Bangalore is not at all justified when you have some missing basic features available in competition at lower price.
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Old 10th January 2023, 19:50   #111
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In my opinion it is already too late now. Just see how good the compact suv has become from the VW stable as well as the Koreans. A half hearted Jugaad product will not do. Even a Honda loyalist like me who still has his 13 year old City Gen3 is not impressed with Honda teasers any more. Give me a product that is Good and Solid by todays benchmarks else dont even bother.
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Old 11th January 2023, 09:05   #112
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Honda's SUV likely to arrive in two variants - one with 5 and the other with 7 seats.

Inside, everything indicates that the model will feature the same digital scheme seen in recent releases, such as the new generations of Accord and CR-V. In this sense, 10.2-inch digital instrument frame and 12.3-inch multimedia center are expected. The electronic architecture will be completely new to accommodate the systems.


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This has got me excited. They seem to have done the research (considering how much Indians are focused on the screen sizes). Hope interior quality is also paid the necessary attention.
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Old 11th January 2023, 10:20   #113
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A dear friend who is an Auditor at a firm was recently auditing Honda Cars India at their plant told me that he had solid info about Honda India investing heavily on R&D and multiple products are in the pipeline for Indian Market. I can say confidently that the future holds good for Honda India if they are serious about the things he told he saw on their documents. Fingers Crossed.

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A dear friend who is an Auditor at SNB India was recently auditing Honda Cars India at their plant told me that he had solid info about Honda India investing heavily on R&D and multiple products are in the pipeline for Indian Market. He showed me some of the financials and I can say confidently that the future holds good for Honda India if they are serious about the things I saw on their documents. Fingers Crossed.
Off topic, I beleive this is not ethical on your friend's part and can get him in trouble. I suggest you request mods to delete this post.
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Off topic, I beleive this is not ethical on your friend's part and can get him in trouble. I suggest you request mods to delete this post.
+ 100. This info is borderline “insider trading info”, and can get your friend into serious trouble!

I am associated with Big 3 strategy consulting firms and therefore know how Audit firms treat such info going public.

MODS:Strongly recommended to delete the original post, please

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A dear friend who is an Auditor at a firm was recently auditing Honda Cars India at their plant told me that he had solid info about Honda India investing heavily on R&D and multiple products are in the pipeline for Indian Market. I can say confidently that the future holds good for Honda India if they are serious about the things he told he saw on their documents. Fingers Crossed.
This is what any firm says before they scoot, every large company has plans as they want to be considered a running concern. I am hoping Honda thrives as we have a City at home, quoting Mike Tyson "everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the face".
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Wishing that the angry looking fronts of vehicles trend die down soon.
Looking scary should not be the norm. Like this smiley :
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This is what any firm says before they scoot, every large company has plans as they want to be considered a running concern. I am hoping Honda thrives as we have a City at home, quoting Mike Tyson "everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the face".
Here in Pune, Crystal Honda dealership has been going heavy renovation. A few months back one of the Honda executives had specifically mentioned about R&D investments along with budget for marketing and showrooms. If one is true then other might be true as well. One can hope.
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So the SUV though based on current gen amaze it will be no more Mobilio/BR-V.
+1 to this. 1.5 NA/CVT/e-HEV all are welcome addition.

Moreover this Creta segment SUV will be launched in India first and the same vehicle will be exported back to Japan later on. The Vehicle certainly is a looker as informed by person doing development activities. This will certainly revive some sales in HCIL business, especially when there is so much waiting period for most of the models.
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Honda dealerships in BLR are also getting renovated and they are taking people from their dealerships to see the new SUV in Thailand, later this month.

As per one of the people, I spoke to at the dealership - he said, Honda is out of time and cannot afford to make anymore mistakes. Hinted at an on-road price of 25L with the 1.5L petrol powerplant and interiors will definitely not be low-rent.

Person said there will be 2 new launches this year.

Despite owning 2 Honda cars and 2 Honda bikes at home, I really dont have any confidence in Honda's automobile business in India anymore.

Even Maruti has shown a 500 km plus EV concept at Auto Expo and Honda is planning to launch a run of the mill SUV in 2023 with none of the famed engineering prowess they were known for earlier!
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