Why Swift DDiS and NOT Indigo DICOR ???

Proxima · 19th June 2007, 09:28

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Originally Posted by tsk1979

Because one is a car and the other is a "cruck"(not my own word, courtesy rt)
I have driven almost all Tata's and between family owned everything right from the V-1 cractor to non Intercooled indigo to the indica turbo.
1. Refinement levels are not there
2. Power delivery is not really nice. Check out my test drive
3. Fit and finish is not upto the mark

Of course the space is amazing. And the value for money is unbeatable. 10 horses more and the DICOR would have been a good powerful sedan, but right now its an underpowered cruck.

tsk, whats a 'cruck'?

navdeep · 19th June 2007, 10:18

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Originally Posted by manikjeet

i get a discount on cars as we get them directly from the factory but cann't tell you how

I hope you will help me out when I need you

tsk1979 · 19th June 2007, 10:36

cruck = Car mated to truck : eg indigo
cractor = Car mated to tractor : eg indica

carjinx · 19th June 2007, 11:21

hehe, @ tsk, thats a funny one..
But in my opinion the swift is more worth it. This is how i see it, I own both the cars i.e., indica NA and a swift diesel. There was no turbo when i made the purchase for indica. However according to me, the swift is a car that one can stay and be content with for a longer time. You know initially it may seem good that you got great VFM buying indigo/ca and one might not consider the noise and lack of power and terrible finish of everything in the car.

When i bought the tata I said to myself that i can adjust with the extra noise, less power and other things, but after a year or so, it started getting on my nerves, that was the time i was dreading buying the car. Now its not that i get irritated easily because i have stayed with my santro for 5 years without one complaint. In this sense i think swift gives you the best of both worlds, an engine that seems better than most petrols in that segment and the great mileage of a diesel, as for space agreed indigo has a boot but if the only criteria is boot then i'd look at other options(even petrol for that matter) but not tata. I remember the thousands of times i've gone for oil leak problems, starter problem(hot start condition) and other reliability issues.

Having a big car for family is good but getting stranded in the big car with family is terribly sad. This was just my general opinion, so no hard feelings tata fans. Maybe i got stuck with a lemon but then so was a frnd of mine who bought the car like 15 days after me. This is why i think it would be a better bet to get a swift by paying a little bit more, cause in the long run it will prove to be worth it and keep you happier.

CrAzY dRiVeR · 19th June 2007, 12:17

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Originally Posted by carjinx

Having a big car for family is good but getting stranded in the big car with family is terribly sad.

Well said.

A post made three days back by a new Indica owner reveals that TATA standards have not gone up by much.

hmishra83 · 19th June 2007, 12:29

SWIFT it should be. The A.S.S. of TATA is...oh, i dont even want to talk about it! How can I compare it with Maruti's?
Buy an Indigo, if you want to be driven around (good A.C., economy and definitely more leg room at the back). If one wants to drive a 'CAR' and not a 'CRUCK'

)), buy a Swift (out of these two for sure)

gemithomas · 19th June 2007, 13:00

Swift for the engine, for the power, for the handling, for the good ownership experience, for the mileage, for less space, for all black interiors, for no rear wiper/defpgger, for no steering adjustment, for low seating position.

Indigo Dicor for the VFM, lower ownership cost, more quality issues, more rattling sounds, more space, a boot, and a not that bad A.S.S.

Jaggu · 19th June 2007, 20:15

Quality consistence and refinement of the swift d engine is what i feel which will tip scales for me, actually it did already.

ankit.jhamb · 19th June 2007, 23:20

i thnik you should go for a swift ...considering the service,availability spares and the refinement levels....
the refinement in any of the tata vehicle is still missing...this is if you can do without the extra boot space offered by indigo....also considering the fact that indigos are mostly chosen by taxi drivers... swift is a new car
as compared to the indigo..and hence not in the taxi business

ownerofazkaban · 20th June 2007, 10:17

Our experience has been that Many of TATA dealerships are got because of MLA etc influence & money, may be that is the way to go, but when it coems to engineering and support there is no motivation to fix problems... in the end you'll get "yeah aisi he hai saar", "sabhi tata ge gadi aise he hai sir"... kinda answers. That experience is reason enough for us to stay away from Tata next time.

drchernish · 20th June 2007, 12:59

by that time u will have the option of getz crdi and fusion diesel

manikjeet · 20th June 2007, 13:36

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Originally Posted by drchernish

by that time u will have the option of getz crdi and fusion diesel

and the fait punto and even liena( hope i got the spelling rite

) and the sx4 ddis optra diesel

BUSA · 20th June 2007, 13:45

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Originally Posted by manikjeet

and the fait punto and even liena( hope i got the spelling rite

) and the sx4 ddis optra diesel

Linea............ not liena

manikjeet · 20th June 2007, 13:47

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Originally Posted by BUSA

Linea............ not liena

Thnx man i always get the spelling wrong

nikunj_cal · 23rd June 2007, 20:15

I own both swift diesel and tata non turbo diesel indica. I have got to admit my indica has run only 41k kms in 4 years and it has started asking for mantaineance, Somehow i feel that the space in swift is same as that of indica. In face my sis said it felt roomier than the indica (maybe because of its build), but anyhow thinking of getting it properly serviced with all the squeaks and rattles fixed .

19th June 2007, 10:36	#18
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	cruck = Car mated to truck : eg indigo cractor = Car mated to tractor : eg indica
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19th June 2007, 11:21	#19
carjinx Newbie Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: bangalore Posts: 19 Thanked: 0 Times	hehe, @ tsk, thats a funny one.. But in my opinion the swift is more worth it. This is how i see it, I own both the cars i.e., indica NA and a swift diesel. There was no turbo when i made the purchase for indica. However according to me, the swift is a car that one can stay and be content with for a longer time. You know initially it may seem good that you got great VFM buying indigo/ca and one might not consider the noise and lack of power and terrible finish of everything in the car. When i bought the tata I said to myself that i can adjust with the extra noise, less power and other things, but after a year or so, it started getting on my nerves, that was the time i was dreading buying the car. Now its not that i get irritated easily because i have stayed with my santro for 5 years without one complaint. In this sense i think swift gives you the best of both worlds, an engine that seems better than most petrols in that segment and the great mileage of a diesel, as for space agreed indigo has a boot but if the only criteria is boot then i'd look at other options(even petrol for that matter) but not tata. I remember the thousands of times i've gone for oil leak problems, starter problem(hot start condition) and other reliability issues. Having a big car for family is good but getting stranded in the big car with family is terribly sad. This was just my general opinion, so no hard feelings tata fans. Maybe i got stuck with a lemon but then so was a frnd of mine who bought the car like 15 days after me. This is why i think it would be a better bet to get a swift by paying a little bit more, cause in the long run it will prove to be worth it and keep you happier.
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19th June 2007, 12:29	#21
hmishra83 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York City & New Delhi Posts: 222 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	SWIFT it should be. The A.S.S. of TATA is...oh, i dont even want to talk about it! How can I compare it with Maruti's? Buy an Indigo, if you want to be driven around (good A.C., economy and definitely more leg room at the back). If one wants to drive a 'CAR' and not a 'CRUCK' )), buy a Swift (out of these two for sure)
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19th June 2007, 13:00	#22
gemithomas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Trivandrum Posts: 2,366 Thanked: 143 Times View My Garage	Swift for the engine, for the power, for the handling, for the good ownership experience, for the mileage, for less space, for all black interiors, for no rear wiper/defpgger, for no steering adjustment, for low seating position. Indigo Dicor for the VFM, lower ownership cost, more quality issues, more rattling sounds, more space, a boot, and a not that bad A.S.S.
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19th June 2007, 20:15	#23
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,904 Times	Quality consistence and refinement of the swift d engine is what i feel which will tip scales for me, actually it did already.
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19th June 2007, 23:20	#24
ankit.jhamb BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: new delhi Posts: 573 Thanked: Once	i thnik you should go for a swift ...considering the service,availability spares and the refinement levels.... the refinement in any of the tata vehicle is still missing...this is if you can do without the extra boot space offered by indigo....also considering the fact that indigos are mostly chosen by taxi drivers... swift is a new car as compared to the indigo..and hence not in the taxi business
	() Thanks

20th June 2007, 10:17	#25
ownerofazkaban BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: BLR Posts: 456 Thanked: 80 Times View My Garage	Maruti to go with Our experience has been that Many of TATA dealerships are got because of MLA etc influence & money, may be that is the way to go, but when it coems to engineering and support there is no motivation to fix problems... in the end you'll get "yeah aisi he hai saar", "sabhi tata ge gadi aise he hai sir"... kinda answers. That experience is reason enough for us to stay away from Tata next time.
	() Thanks

20th June 2007, 12:59	#26
drchernish BHPian Join Date: May 2007 Location: kanpur Posts: 426 Thanked: 70 Times	by that time u will have the option of getz crdi and fusion diesel
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23rd June 2007, 20:15	#30
nikunj_cal BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Kolkata Posts: 450 Thanked: 0 Times View My Garage	I own both swift diesel and tata non turbo diesel indica. I have got to admit my indica has run only 41k kms in 4 years and it has started asking for mantaineance, Somehow i feel that the space in swift is same as that of indica. In face my sis said it felt roomier than the indica (maybe because of its build), but anyhow thinking of getting it properly serviced with all the squeaks and rattles fixed .
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