Fate of the Octy.....

torqueunlimited · 19th June 2007, 17:25

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Originally Posted by ac 427

Now the fabia in the 5.5-7.5 segment. I think their game plan is clear, be present every where.

The Fabia most likely will be priced around 8-9. And they won't bring in the hatch coz it will be too expensive. Skoda will definitely bring in the Fabia sedan, and then even if the Octy is phased out then it wouldn't matter. The 8-9 lakh segment is extremely strong. And if Skoda can put together a good Indianised Fabia in that segment then there will be nothing like it! Skoda quality is really very good and people would deifinitely be lured into Czech territory!

lurker · 19th June 2007, 17:56

But has anyone seen a Sedan version of the 'New Fabia' ?

sarath · 19th June 2007, 18:36

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Originally Posted by torqueunlimited

The Fabia most likely will be priced around 8-9. And they won't bring in the hatch coz it will be too expensive.

Agree. It seems still we are not ready to digest expensive hatches, just like the SRV which is not doing great number. Fabia sedan is the obvious option.

ac 427 · 19th June 2007, 21:31

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Originally Posted by sarath

Agree. It seems still we are not ready to digest expensive hatches, just like the SRV which is not doing great number. Fabia sedan is the obvious option.

my friend the fabia will be around 7 lacs. and it will be the hatch back. and not the sedan.

lurker · 19th June 2007, 21:40

Well the 'New Fabia' sedan will be launched in Europe only in 2008 at the minimum. They are launching the 'New Fabia' SW/combi atleast there in 2008, so you can expect the sedan to come even later.

Now if they bring in the 'Old Fabia' sedan in India, with the dies that have been disposed off as scrap from Europe, after introduction of the 'New Fabia' sedan there, then I am sure everyone here would be mighty pi$$ed off.

So the most likely possibility for Skoda seems to be to introduce the 'New Fabia' hatch in India and then later introduce the 'New Fabia' combi and sedan models as and when they are introduced in Europe.

sudarshansarma · 19th June 2007, 21:59

Just drove the Optra Diesel today. It has the shove and smoothness to shame a Laura!..take a test drive guys..its AMAZING..the price is really good too! 10.5 On road bbay! with alloys, MP3 player etc!

sarath · 19th June 2007, 22:45

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Originally Posted by ac 427

my friend the fabia will be around 7 lacs. and it will be the hatch back. and not the sedan.

buddy, I have read somewhere that Skoda has plans to introduce both the hatch and sedan versions for the Fabia, though not so sure. IMHO, the sedan will be the better option considering the price range.

ac 427 · 19th June 2007, 23:22

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Originally Posted by sudarshansarma

Just drove the Optra Diesel today. It has the shove and smoothness to shame a Laura!..take a test drive guys..its AMAZING..the price is really good too! 10.5 On road bbay! with alloys, MP3 player etc!

this surely is quickening the 'death' process of the octy, but as a old faithfull i will still stick to the 'well built' octy.

rubin2006 · 20th June 2007, 02:37

I think it time for octavia to go grace fully like a winner and they should bring laura into main stream ,other wise its sure going the way of old indian cricket team players who cant play but will still not retire ,but one cant say much also when people are launching Logan in 2007 which was supposed to come here in 1987 ,i know its was born late but ,but what our fault we get all the models launched here which are out of production else where

speedzak · 20th June 2007, 04:56

Hello.
Octy (we get to see here) has been killed long time in most parts of the world and replaced by the new Octy (known as Laura here). So, why don't they do the same here? Laura should be brought down from it's over hyped position and relocated fairly where it supposed to be positioned. Yes, That's the only change we need from Skoda.

No, please don't do that grill change, headlamp change job for the old one. It is time they show us what a Czech can do.
Skoda did it when it introduced itself with a remarkably good product. Now, it is high time they repeat the magic. Or is it too late?

khanak · 20th June 2007, 05:01

If Skoda does replace the Octavia with the Laura, wont the people who have bought Lauras be pissed off?

OT: The Logan was introduced in 2004 and isnt that old a model even though you might not think that when you look at it.

drpullockaran · 20th June 2007, 07:58

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Originally Posted by zakaaaaasss

IMO, Skoda should now stop the production of Octys in India...Laura's should take that place (pricewise??)...in the hatchback category, Fabia is much awaited...

Is not the Octavia and the Laura hatchbacks already, big hatchbacks though?

Mad Monkey · 20th June 2007, 08:48

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Originally Posted by drpullockaran

Is not the Octavia and the Laura hatchbacks already, big hatchbacks though?

they are Notchbacks ........................

amitg79 · 20th June 2007, 10:42

I had heard that the tooling for the old Octavia would be shipped to countries like India, where the old Octy's doing fine. This means that we could get a tweaked Octavia sometime. Also, the Laura (new Octavia) is inherently more expensive to make, which may make it difficult for the Laura to be cut down to the current Octavia's price.

rangaraj · 21st June 2007, 11:21

The introduction of the Magnum from GM has done two things - one is provide the much needed competition to Skoda to get their act together and start providing VFM - both in terms of new cars as well as spares and after sales support. The second is that the second hand skoda prices will drop dramatically as there is an alternative to a fuel efficient diesel skoda. As the resale value drops, the demand for the new ones also will drop - it is a cascading effect (Hyundai vs Honda for example). Honda and Toyota have some superb diesel plants and it will be interesting if they will be forced to react. The only downside of the GM Magnum is their brand/snob value - or the lack of it - similar to a Hyundai. The Skoda, Honda and Toyota brands still are placed above GM and Hyundai which will allow them to breathe for a while, but there will certainly be an errosion..

19th June 2007, 17:56	#17
lurker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tura Posts: 1,592 Thanked: 1,423 Times	But has anyone seen a Sedan version of the 'New Fabia' ?
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19th June 2007, 21:40	#20
lurker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tura Posts: 1,592 Thanked: 1,423 Times	Well the 'New Fabia' sedan will be launched in Europe only in 2008 at the minimum. They are launching the 'New Fabia' SW/combi atleast there in 2008, so you can expect the sedan to come even later. Now if they bring in the 'Old Fabia' sedan in India, with the dies that have been disposed off as scrap from Europe, after introduction of the 'New Fabia' sedan there, then I am sure everyone here would be mighty pi$$ed off. So the most likely possibility for Skoda seems to be to introduce the 'New Fabia' hatch in India and then later introduce the 'New Fabia' combi and sedan models as and when they are introduced in Europe.
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19th June 2007, 21:59	#21
sudarshansarma BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 101 Thanked: Once	Death of the Octavia Just drove the Optra Diesel today. It has the shove and smoothness to shame a Laura!..take a test drive guys..its AMAZING..the price is really good too! 10.5 On road bbay! with alloys, MP3 player etc!
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20th June 2007, 02:37	#24
rubin2006 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: delhi/calgary Posts: 286 Thanked: Once	I think it time for octavia to go grace fully like a winner and they should bring laura into main stream ,other wise its sure going the way of old indian cricket team players who cant play but will still not retire ,but one cant say much also when people are launching Logan in 2007 which was supposed to come here in 1987 ,i know its was born late but ,but what our fault we get all the models launched here which are out of production else where
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20th June 2007, 04:56	#25
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	Hello. Octy (we get to see here) has been killed long time in most parts of the world and replaced by the new Octy (known as Laura here). So, why don't they do the same here? Laura should be brought down from it's over hyped position and relocated fairly where it supposed to be positioned. Yes, That's the only change we need from Skoda. No, please don't do that grill change, headlamp change job for the old one. It is time they show us what a Czech can do. Skoda did it when it introduced itself with a remarkably good product. Now, it is high time they repeat the magic. Or is it too late?
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20th June 2007, 05:01	#26
khanak Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mumbai/Toronto Posts: 2,799 Thanked: 268 Times View My Garage	If Skoda does replace the Octavia with the Laura, wont the people who have bought Lauras be pissed off? OT: The Logan was introduced in 2004 and isnt that old a model even though you might not think that when you look at it.
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20th June 2007, 10:42	#29
amitg79 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 371 Thanked: 245 Times	I had heard that the tooling for the old Octavia would be shipped to countries like India, where the old Octy's doing fine. This means that we could get a tweaked Octavia sometime. Also, the Laura (new Octavia) is inherently more expensive to make, which may make it difficult for the Laura to be cut down to the current Octavia's price.
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21st June 2007, 11:21	#30
rangaraj BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 570 Thanked: 10 Times	Second hand prices too will drop The introduction of the Magnum from GM has done two things - one is provide the much needed competition to Skoda to get their act together and start providing VFM - both in terms of new cars as well as spares and after sales support. The second is that the second hand skoda prices will drop dramatically as there is an alternative to a fuel efficient diesel skoda. As the resale value drops, the demand for the new ones also will drop - it is a cascading effect (Hyundai vs Honda for example). Honda and Toyota have some superb diesel plants and it will be interesting if they will be forced to react. The only downside of the GM Magnum is their brand/snob value - or the lack of it - similar to a Hyundai. The Skoda, Honda and Toyota brands still are placed above GM and Hyundai which will allow them to breathe for a while, but there will certainly be an errosion..
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