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View Poll Results: Which is YOUR car of 2022?
Maruti Alto K10 10 0.44%
Citroen C3 52 2.30%
Maruti Baleno 16 0.71%
Toyota Glanza 6 0.27%
Maruti Brezza 44 1.94%
Tata Tiago EV 275 12.15%
Kia Carens 93 4.11%
Skoda Slavia 142 6.27%
Volkswagen Virtus 207 9.15%
Maruti Grand Vitara 170 7.51%
Toyota Urban Cruiser Hyryder 299 13.21%
Mahindra Scorpio-N 632 27.93%
Hyundai Tucson 148 6.54%
Jeep Meridian 13 0.57%
Toyota Hilux 20 0.88%
BYD Atto 3 20 0.88%
Audi Q3 2 0.09%
Mini Cooper SE 3 0.13%
Mercedes-Benz C-Class 22 0.97%
Volvo XC40 Recharge 11 0.49%
Kia EV6 78 3.45%
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Old 15th December 2022, 14:36   #271
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re: Team-BHP Car of the Year, 2022 | EDIT: It's the Scorpio-N

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Voted Scorpio N for COTY. VW Virtus was my second choice. I voted based on the road presence and functionality that these cars offer. If I can buy only one car from this list and use it for city drives, long road trips, and visits to my native, then it has to be the ScorpioN.

P.S.: Why is Force Urbania not in this list?
Gurkha as a product in their portfolio may not make much sense but as a marketing exercise I think Gurkha has certainly created the brand awareness for Force motors. Especially in a community like ours , I doubt it any commercial vehicle has been discussed as much recently - also a possible answer as to why it is not in the list.
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re: Team-BHP Car of the Year, 2022 | EDIT: It's the Scorpio-N

Voted for Virtus. My sentiments reflect on the slavia as well.

Both may not be setting the sales charts on fire but it surely is changing the perception of the brand amongst the public, atleast from my experience it is. People i know who earlier wouldn't have touched a VAG car with a ten foot pole for a new car hunt are now adding the sedan twins to their list. From my family and close friends circle as well, almost half of the people who had the twins in their list eventually ended up with one of them. I took a friend of mine who avoided vag like the plague before and still was apprehensive about v2.0 cars, for a Virtus GT test drive. Safe to say, he was sold on the car instantly.

I would have been interested in one as well if it wasn't for their no diesel policy. I prefer diesels and it would've been nice if they had offered the 1.5 TDI for the twins, but it is what it is.
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re: Team-BHP Car of the Year, 2022 | EDIT: It's the Scorpio-N

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P.S.: Why is Force Urbania not in this list?
Force Urbania is definitely a good looking van but currently it can only be registered on a taxi plate and cannot be registered on a private plate. Hence it categorises under commercial vehicles and hence cannot be clubbed with private owned cars.
Force Motors is trying RTA permission to get Urbania registered as a private vehicle in it's 10 seater variant and maybe available in the future.

Listen to a dealer explain about the vehicle where he gives this information.

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Force Urbania is definitely a good looking van but currently it can only be registered on a taxi plate and cannot be registered on a private plate. Hence it categorises under commercial vehicles and hence cannot be clubbed with private owned cars.
Force Motors is trying RTA permission to get Urbania registered as a private vehicle in it's 10 seater variant and maybe available in the future.
Thank you for the explanation. I think Urbania will be a good choice as a caravan too.
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Was not thinking of giving a vote because I honestly didnt think this year we had a pathbreaking product. But after the latest GNCAP voted for the Scorpio-N because it is the first Indian market BoF passenger SUV that has 5 stars. I think that counts for something isn't it?
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re: Team-BHP Car of the Year, 2022 | EDIT: It's the Scorpio-N

Well, well, well. It's the 3rd time in a row for Mahindra with 28% of the 2,263 BHPian votes on this poll! The Scorpio-N is the Team-BHP Car of 2022, the XUV700 won the 2021 COTY & the Thar was the 2020 COTY. I have always said that Mahindra is on a roll with its new SUVs & closely guarding its traditional UV turf; this hat-trick on Team-BHP is a testament to that.

It is also the first time that a car manufacturer has scored a hat-trick on the Team-BHP COTY Awards.

Well-deserved, I say! What impresses me most about the Scorpio-N is how it has retained the original "Scorpio" DNA, yet brought a contemporary experience to the package. The Scorpio-N is far more user-friendly & modern than the outgoing Scorpio could ever hope to be, and feels 2 - 3 generations newer than the car it replaces. All the 3 Mahindra SUVs mentioned are expensive, yet the market is happily paying the price premium. Just look at our sales threads and the long waiting periods! "Product" is everything in the current market conditions. Mediocrity doesn't cut it, what we need are standout cars.

Superbly done, Mahindra . Big congrats. Am also very happy to see future tech in positions 2 (Hybrid Hyryder) and 3 (Tiago EV). Clearly, normal is boring in today's fiercely competitive car market.

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Well, well, well. It's the 3rd time in a row for Mahindra with 28% of the 2,263 BHPian votes on this poll! The Scorpio-N is the Team-BHP Car of 2022, the XUV700 won the 2021 COTY & the Thar was the 2020 COTY. I have always said that Mahindra is on a roll with its new SUVs & closely guarding its traditional UV turf; this hat-trick on Team-BHP is a testament to that.

It is also the first time that a car manufacturer has scored a hat-trick on the Team-BHP COTY Awards.
Mahindra has reinvented itself to provide well designed, well engineered, safe, robust, feature rich, driver's cars - while sticking to its core DNA of SUVs. All at a very fair price (vis-a-vis competition) for what it offers !

Mahindra's uncompromising stance on safety and making cars more exciting to drive is truly praise-worthy !

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Re: Team-BHP Car of the Year, 2022 | EDIT: It's the Scorpio-N

Continuing what @KiloAlpha posted in 2020, and I updated last year -

2009 Car of the year: Tata Nano
Total Votes: 1058
Tata Nano got 406 votes (38.37%)
Vehicle sales: Flop. After the initial excitement, sales dropped off. Now discontinued.
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2010 Car of the year: Ford Figo
Total Votes: 979
Ford Figo got 375 votes (38.3%)
Vehicle sales: Hit. Sold a consistently high number (5-6K per month) in the initial 3 years, then tailed off. Was replaced by new generation Figo, which is a sales flop.
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2011 Car of the year: Mahindra XUV5OO
Total Votes: 2626
Mahindra XUV5OO got 1487 votes (56.63%) - the highest winning margin.
Vehicle sales: Super hit. Continued to consistently be the top performer in the segment until a couple of years back. Updated model is (finally) on its way.
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2012 Car of the Year: Renault Duster
Total Votes: 2122
Renault Duster got 1135 votes (53.49%)
Vehicle sales: Super hit - at the time. Defined a segment, and sold huge numbers until competition caught up with it. Now feels badly outdated, and is a slow seller despite facelift, BS6 turbo petrol, and automatic variants being launched.
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2013 Car of the Year: Ford Ecosport
Total Votes: 1362
Ford Ecosport got 696 votes (51.1%)
Vehicle sales: Moderate hit. Unique offering in the compact crossover segment, carved a niche for itself. Good sales numbers despite new competition. Facelift appeared to continue the success, but now it begins its slow decline. Best selling Ford model for a while now.
T-BHP Official Review (Ford EcoSport : Official Review) (Ford EcoSport : Official Review)

2014 Car of the Year: Tata Zest
Total Votes: 2454
Tata Zest got 962 votes (39.2%)
Vehicle sales: Flop. Has not met Tata's expectations, did not pose a threat to the Maruti DZire. Even fleet/taxi operators did not take a shine to this car.
Now discontinued.
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2015 Car of the Year: Renault Kwid
Total Votes: 2363
Renault Kwid got 692 votes (29.28%) - the narrowest winning margin. Hyundai Creta polled 557 votes (23.57%), Maruti-Suzuki Baleno 330 (13.97%), and the Figo-Aspire twins got 293 (12.4%)
Vehicle Sales: Moderate hit. Initial bookings were strong, and Renault upped the game delivering to expectations. However, now selling around 5K per month - which is below expectations. Facelift keeps the interest in this model alive.
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2016 Car of the Year: Tata Tiago
Total Votes: 2451
Tata Tiago got 901 votes (36.76%)
Vehicle sales: Hit. Has been (mostly) finding around 5K-7K homes every month.
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2017 Car of the Year: Jeep Compass
Total Votes: 2387
Jeep Compass got 1047 votes (43.86%)
Vehicle Sales: Hit. Like the Renault Duster 6 years back, it has carved out a niche at its price point and was virtually without competition - for a while. With competition catching up, and FCA's lethargy, sales have now begun their slow decline.
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2018 Car of the Year: Mahindra Marazzo
Total Votes: 1964
Mahindra Marazzo got 726 votes (36.97%)
Vehicle Sales: Flop. It started off selling OK numbers, but sales have since fallen and is was underperforming. Fleet operators seem to have propped up the sales numbers.
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2019 Car of the Year: Kia Seltos
Total Votes: 2751
Kia Seltos got 1499 votes (54.49%)
Vehicle Sales: Super Hit. With just this one model in its line-up, Kia went from nothing to the 4th highest selling brand.
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2020 Car of the year: Mahindra Thar
Total Votes: 1932
Mahindra Thar got 794 votes (41.10%)
Vehicle Sales: Hit. M&M is not making enough to meet the demand. 34,829 copies shipped from the factory since deliveries started - averages 2679 per month, and waiting period varies from 4 to 6 weeks to 6 to 8 months depending on the variant/ powertrain/ transmission. This is in spite of a price hike of up to 73k to 1.33 lakhs on the ex-showroom within the first 9 months of launch.
Official Review (Mahindra Thar : Official Review) (Mahindra Thar : Official Review)

2021 Car of the year: Mahindra XUV7OO
Total Votes: 2016
Mahindra XUV7OO got 1267 votes (62.85%), taking over the "highest winning margin" title from the XUV5OO!
Vehicle Sales: Hit. M&M is not making enough to meet the demand. Waiting times have reaching the equivalent of license raj era, resulting in a thread just to discuss the waiting period of this car. All initial reviews have been positive, with delivery timelines seemingly being the biggest problem.
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2022 Car of the year: Mahindra Scorpio-N
Total Votes: 2263
Mahindra Scorpio-N got 632 votes (27.93%), making this the narrowest winning margin, overtaking the Kwid's 29.28% from 2015.
Vehicle Sales: Hit. Mahindra does not report Scorpio-N numbers separately, but comparing their overall sales from July 2022 (27,862) and later months (Avg 31,602 between Aug - Nov '22), we can guesstimate that M&M is dispatching between 3,000 to 5,000 copies per month (3,740 avg) which is still not enough to meet the demand, giving Scorpio-N the notoriety of having a thread dedicated to discuss wait times (What happened with your Mahindra Scorpio-N Booking?) (on the same lines as XUV7OO).
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A look at the manufacturers whose cars made it to T-BHP COTY over the years:


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  • Maruti and Hyundai, India's top two with a market share of 56% (Nov '22) are missing from our COTY!
  • Toyota and Honda too did not get to win the title so far
  • Mahindra is the only manufacturer with a hat-trick COTY until now
  • Tata and Mahindra have a combined wins of 8 (out of 14) COTYs, making Indian Manufacturers the majority winners in T-BHP COTY!

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Maruti and Hyundai, India's top two with a market share of 56% (Nov '22) are missing from our COTY!
Great points! Thanks for the insightful post. I think, with reference to Maruti, all of their new launches do "most things right", without excelling in any particular area. Case in point, this year's Brezza & Grand Vitara. For the latter, the sole standout point is Toyota's hybrid tech, for which the Hyryder rightly got rewarded with the no.2 spot.

Marutis generally appeal to the head, but don't pull the strings to our hearts...thus missing out on COTY awards.
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Re: Team-BHP Car of the Year, 2022 | EDIT: It's the Scorpio-N

For me the COTY should be one which is tried and tested and an easy recommendations to others. Most of the cars in the fray for 2022 were running models and few recently launched one. My suggestion is to keep the recent launches to the subsequent year cos that's when the car will show its true grit on the road and in terms of performance in sales and service.

Mods - Two suggestions.
1. Would it be possible to rank the cars based on Sales, Service, Quality, TBHP ownership feedback.
2. Mods vote the last. Keep the best for the last.

A sincere thanks to mods for keeping the excitement around the polls and contenders.
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Re: Team-BHP Car of the Year, 2022 | EDIT: It's the Scorpio-N

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Continuing what @KiloAlpha posted in 2020, and I updated last year -
Considering how Thar is just a 2 Seater, and Scorpio and XUV700 have huuuuuuuuge waiting list, I think it's safe to say these are super hit.
I mean in 2019 who would've thought about shelling 18L on a Thar and nearly 30L on XUV500 2.0.
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Scorpion N is a strategically a great product as well. It is attacking everything from Cretas, Innovas and upto Fortuner. It's a solid, rugged, abuse friendly, macho looking still fun to drive all round package. Double thumbs up to Mahindra.
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Wonderful and to be honest, it absolutely deserves the recognition.
Went for another test drive today and every time I am more and more impressed.

The brakes are so damn good that driving the Vento afterwards feels like the brakes aren't even there.
The clutch is very light and accurate, even for rush hour Lucknow traffic.

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Well, well, well. It's the 3rd time in a row for Mahindra with 28% of the 2,263 BHPian votes on this poll! The Scorpio-N is the Team-BHP Car of 2022
Designed to command roads as well as Team-BHP attention.

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Re: Team-BHP Car of the Year, 2022 | EDIT: It's the Scorpio-N

Interesting and perhaps unsurprising outcome. What’s great to see is how diverse the voting has been. The Scorpio N got twice the votes of the #2 player (Hyrider) but just over a fourth of all votes. The gap of course narrows if twins are counted together - in that case, we end up with narrower margins - the Scorpio N at 28%, Hyrider + Grand Vitara at 21%, followed by the Virtus +Slavia at 15%.
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