Maruti Baleno

Tom · 17th May 2004, 13:59

How come suddenely everybody talkin abt this car?
Also i hear MRF is gonna race Baleno's this year. Is this car that hot?

I also read in a leading car mag that the car does a whopping 110kph in first gear!!

I can post the link here if it's ok to do so..

cheers!
Tom

Dippy · 17th May 2004, 14:14

You can put up a link here Tom or even paste the article so long as you give proper reference and credit below for the source

Cheers

Tom · 17th May 2004, 14:19

"Remember the standard Baleno has a tall first gear peaking out at 110kmph and the shorter ratios will make it the fastest accelerating 1.5-litre car around".

Source : Overdrive magazine

http://www.overdriveindia.com/art_dtl....ode=145

GTO · 17th May 2004, 14:26

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Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]How come suddenely everybody talkin abt this car?

Coz its now 2 lacs cheaper than it was 4 years back. Though its great for new car buyers, I pity the ones who bought the car in the year 2000.

As for the gearing, I have never understood Overdrives explanations. For e.g. they mentioned that the Esteem MPFi is geared to do a 270km/h or something. I honestly didnt know what to make of it.

GTO

Tom · 17th May 2004, 14:30

but the baleno is still using the Esteem gear box right?

Aditya · 17th May 2004, 14:31

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Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Tom @ May 17 2004,12:29)]How come suddenely everybody talkin abt this car?

The Baleno still looks bland, but after the recent price cut, it has become a great VFM package. It's performance is good and with the addition of sensible tyres, it can behave itself. MUL's service is pretty good too.

Rtech · 17th May 2004, 15:06

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Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] (Tom @ May 17 2004,13:00)]but the baleno is still using the Esteem gear box right?

"still using it??" I never knew they used the esteem box to begin with?!

Jaggu · 17th May 2004, 15:13

110 at 2 nd gear might be.. i guess it was a typo..

Tom · 17th May 2004, 15:17

hmm...im confused...was it the same diffentiels?
thought i read this somwhere sometime back..not 100% sure though

Jaggu · 17th May 2004, 15:19

yup in some mag.. they say its the same diffrentails and the weakest link and have a tendency to break.. the reason why MRF withdrew it from indian rally scene..

crazydiablo4484 · 17th May 2004, 16:15

Ya the baleno has a tall second gear. Thats why it was supposed have good 0-100 because it involves only one shift. Now the baleno had other problems like the lower arm getting bend always and could not take the rough at the rally. But it was certainly with pace with the VTECs surprising but reliablility was VTEC forte!

Stratos · 17th May 2004, 16:45

some design changes...especially the rear and some nice front design... and big tyres... and the BALENO will shine!

GTO · 17th May 2004, 17:47

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Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]some design changes...especially the rear and some nice front design

Trust me, going by the new Zen..You would rather drive the Baleno as it looks rather than have MUL's style gurus put new lights on the front and rear.

GTO

Rehaan · 20th May 2004, 15:04

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Quote[/b] (GTO @ May 17 2004,12:56)]As for the gearing, I have never understood Overdrives explanations. For e.g. they mentioned that the Esteem MPFi is geared to do a 270km/h or something. I honestly didnt know what to make of it.

Hey GTO,

I havent seen where you got that figure from, but my guess is that they mean that - IF you could go all the way till red line in 5th gear (which isnt possible) in the MPFI Esteem it would be doing 270km/h due to the long gearing, and the 5th gear being overdrive.

cya
R

ps - and 110kmph in 1st gear...i dont think so!!

Shan2nu · 20th May 2004, 15:33

First of all, no car or bike, sold here can cross 100kmph in first gear. The Baleno surely needs to shift atleast once before it crosses the 3 digit mark.

And about using shorter gears in the Baleno, it really wont make it the fastest 1.5/1.6 ltr car in India. i'll tell you why. As it is the Baleno takes 12 odd secs to hit 100kmph. Now if you make the gears shorter, it'll need to shift twice before hitting 100. So you're actually losing another .3 to .4 of a sec there.

Maybe it'll manage early 11 secs or late 10 secs but surely not the 9.92 set by the Vtec. Using shorter gears will also affect the top speed of the car.

The only possible way the Baleno can beat the Vtec is if you tune the engine to produce more power and/or if the car is made lighter.

Regards...
Shan2nu

17th May 2004, 13:59	#1
Tom BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore, India. Posts: 401 Thanked: 0 Times	How come suddenely everybody talkin abt this car? Also i hear MRF is gonna race Baleno's this year. Is this car that hot? I also read in a leading car mag that the car does a whopping 110kph in first gear!! I can post the link here if it's ok to do so.. cheers! Tom
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17th May 2004, 14:14	#2
Dippy Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,557 Thanked: 2,459 Times	You can put up a link here Tom or even paste the article so long as you give proper reference and credit below for the source Cheers
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17th May 2004, 14:19	#3
Tom BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore, India. Posts: 401 Thanked: 0 Times	"Remember the standard Baleno has a tall first gear peaking out at 110kmph and the shorter ratios will make it the fastest accelerating 1.5-litre car around". Source : Overdrive magazine http://www.overdriveindia.com/art_dtl....ode=145
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17th May 2004, 14:30	#5
Tom BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore, India. Posts: 401 Thanked: 0 Times	but the baleno is still using the Esteem gear box right?
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Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,212 Thanked: 15,892 Times	110 at 2 nd gear might be.. i guess it was a typo..
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17th May 2004, 15:17	#9
Tom BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore, India. Posts: 401 Thanked: 0 Times	hmm...im confused...was it the same diffentiels? thought i read this somwhere sometime back..not 100% sure though
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17th May 2004, 15:19	#10
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,212 Thanked: 15,892 Times	yup in some mag.. they say its the same diffrentails and the weakest link and have a tendency to break.. the reason why MRF withdrew it from indian rally scene..
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17th May 2004, 16:15	#11
crazydiablo4484 BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: bangalore Posts: 26 Thanked: 0 Times	Ya the baleno has a tall second gear. Thats why it was supposed have good 0-100 because it involves only one shift. Now the baleno had other problems like the lower arm getting bend always and could not take the rough at the rally. But it was certainly with pace with the VTECs surprising but reliablility was VTEC forte!
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17th May 2004, 16:45	#12
Stratos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,609 Thanked: 1,437 Times View My Garage	some design changes...especially the rear and some nice front design... and big tyres... and the BALENO will shine!
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20th May 2004, 15:33	#15
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	First of all, no car or bike, sold here can cross 100kmph in first gear. The Baleno surely needs to shift atleast once before it crosses the 3 digit mark. And about using shorter gears in the Baleno, it really wont make it the fastest 1.5/1.6 ltr car in India. i'll tell you why. As it is the Baleno takes 12 odd secs to hit 100kmph. Now if you make the gears shorter, it'll need to shift twice before hitting 100. So you're actually losing another .3 to .4 of a sec there. Maybe it'll manage early 11 secs or late 10 secs but surely not the 9.92 set by the Vtec. Using shorter gears will also affect the top speed of the car. The only possible way the Baleno can beat the Vtec is if you tune the engine to produce more power and/or if the car is made lighter. Regards... Shan2nu
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