[MotorDev]

Honda has finally discontinued the City 4G, WRV and Jazz officially as they are no more listed on the website now. The City 4G has been finally discontinued after a decade.




The WRV and Jazz were slow sellers while the City 4G brought in sales decently well. Now the real sales numbers of the City 5G will come out as till now the City's sales were the combined sales of both the Gen's. The City 4G was VFM and will be missed by many as it was a great car for the customers who wanted to buy their dream car at a low price.

Now with 3 cars gone, Honda has only 3 cars on sale in India which include the 5G City, City Hybrid and the Amaze. Honda is also going to launch an SUV for the Indian market soon. The arrival of the SUV to the Indian shores is expected by June.

[ToThePoint]

They killed jazz and WR-V by not giving them the 1.5 iVtec- all in the name of protecting their cash cow CITY, often forgetting that as long as customer shops within the same showroom, it's a win-win for them. Meek facelifts like LED tail lamps while deleting the major usp - magic seats, clearly showed their lack of interest in continuing with the product.

Lot of people waited and waited for the 1.5 and finally moved on especially those who had waitlisted WR-V. Those who own WR-V praise it for its ride quality and all roundedness with the engine being the weak point. They should have brought in the facelift.

[Shreyfiesta]

Not a shocking news. Jazz, WRV and City 4G were already at the end of their life cycles. This has left HSIL with just two cars in their lineup : the fifth-gen City (I don't consider the e:HEV to be a different product) and the Amaze. The old-gen City actually played a vital role in cracking the huge segment of customers who were shying away from buying the brand 'City' due to budget constraints. Amaze diesel CVT also was a car of equal importance for Honda.

[MotorDev]

Originally Posted by Shreyfiesta

Not a shocking news. Jazz, WRV and City 4G were already at the end of their life cycles. This has left HSIL with just two cars in their lineup : the fifth-gen City (I don't consider the e:HEV to be a different product) and the Amaze. The old-gen City actually played a vital role in cracking the huge segment of customers who were shying away from buying the brand 'City' due to budget constraints. Amaze diesel CVT also was a car of equal importance for Honda.

The sales of Honda Cars this month will be interesting and if Honda India has atleast 1% of concern, the should atleast tease the SUV now ! AS this is their last, final, Finito chance to survive in India. If they lose this time, I think Honda will pack its bags

[Kln]

Man, if only Honda spent SOME efforts behind selling the stellar Jazz! It is one the most comfortable, practical hatchbacks for city drives. RIP in peace Jazz, you'll be missed.

[Bonemechanic]

The Honda Jazz was quite a car. It was my previous vehicle, the Honda Jazz V CVT. The car was smooth, fun to drive, and very practical, making it suitable for both city and highway use.

[Venkatesh]

Honda Jazz, WR-V and 4th-gen City no longer listed on the brand's India website.

[thanixravindran]

This is due to the RDE norms kicking in today and they simply didn't want to invest in those old platforms for compliance. With the focus and onslaught of EVs, no point in investing money in old platforms.

[sandeepmdas]

Not only in India, globally also the web searches and online references about Honda is apparently diminishing, if we take the Google Trends an indication. Please see screenshot. Honda was far ahead of even the mighty Toyota once. The only search where Honda still has domination is in YT videos only.

Link to Google reference:
https://trends.google.com/trends/exp...a,subaru&hl=en

[MotorDev]

Originally Posted by thanixravindran

This is due to the RDE norms kicking in today and they simply didn't want to invest in those old platforms for compliance. With the focus and onslaught of EVs, no point in investing money in old platforms.

The same platform is used for city 5G and Amaze !

[anjan_c2007]

Honda in India appears to be doing it work like a government establishment, especially like our Transport Ministry which has been taking some whimsical decisions without doing its homework properly.

The Jazz and WRV were excellent cars but needed to have been marketed well. And as regards their fear of cannibalisation of its City sales, had the Jazz and WRV been given the 1.5 iVtec, Honda lives in its own world. The Fiat 2.0 L multi jet diesel engine is apart from the Jeep, being used by MG and Tata for their SUV's. Fiat is not possessive about its 2.0 L engine, nor was it about its lighter variant that powered the Punto, Swift, Dzire, Ritz and so on.

The Civic was another good car that they discontinued in 2012. Honda has failed to cash in on the small SUV segment without any entry at the opportune moment.

A little bit of seriousness is needed if Honda has to survive in the Indian car market. In fact, they need to learn lessons from HMSIL, their smaller sibling who have been ruling the Indian two wheeler market since about two decades.

[Sumedik]

Originally Posted by ToThePoint

They killed jazz and WR-V by not giving them the 1.5 iVtec

Originally Posted by anjan_c2007

The Jazz and WRV were excellent cars but needed to have been marketed well. And as regards their fear of cannibalization of its City sales, had the Jazz and WRV been given the 1.5 iVtec, Honda lives in its own world.

I do not think they would have given 1200cc+ engines in sub 4 meter cars, which would have taken them to the next higher tax bracket resulting in impractical price.

However, those should have been marketed better.

Unfortunately, this leaves Nissan/Datsun as the only CVT car sellers in India, while Honda hangs on with the lone Amaze CVT.

[MotorDev]

Originally Posted by Sumedik

I do not think they would have given 1200cc+ engines in sub 4 meter cars, which would have taken them to the next higher tax bracket resulting in impractical price.

However, those should have been marketed better.

Unfortunately, this leaves Nissan/Datsun as the only CVT car sellers in India, while Honda hangs on with the lone Amaze CVT.

They could have atleast launched it as a special edition !

[GTO]

Honda in the 1990s = City ruling the scene.

Honda in the 2000s = City, Civic, Accord & CR-V. All at the top of their respective segments in terms of sales. Technology was on par with anyone in the market, or better. This was the real "Honda" lineup for me, the true DNA of the company.

Honda in the 2010s = City, 1st-gen Amaze, Brio, WR-V, Mobilio, BR-V....Honda tried to do a "Maruti" and failed. The iconic Japanese brand lost its core brand strengths.

Honda in the 2020s = City and Amaze?? That's it? The poorly positioned new Civic & Accord Hybrid didn't have a chance of survival.

Today, Hyundai is more representative of the "Honda" of the 2000s than Honda itself.

[Chetan_Rao]

Originally Posted by Sumedik

I do not think they would have given 1200cc+ engines in sub 4 meter cars, which would have taken them to the next higher tax bracket resulting in impractical price...

Forget the bigger motor, they stripped the Jazz of its global USP: magic seats! Nickel and dime games work only so much, and then you're left shaking nickels in a can like Honda India.