New City VTEC or Cedia

President · 21st April 2008, 18:46

This is the nth time I wish to repeat - CEDIA RULZ!!

It is an all in one car.
TOTAL VFM.

And, I have 11 out of the TEN good points that I need in owning a great car.

vasudeva · 21st April 2008, 19:40

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Originally Posted by supremeBaleno

Royal Challenge is a nice whiskey though.

OT: Have not had one for 7 years. Is it whisky (as defined) or molasses

wanderlustindia · 22nd April 2008, 10:26

My vote for the Cedia. Though I havent driven one yet, I drive a 2001 Lancer. Cedia, being the next gen Lancer in India (and possibly much better than the Lancer in most respects), I can vouch for the driver involvement of this car. It is a delight to be driving one. Handling is superb on all kinds of terrain. I have driven the NHC VTEC and its a smooth operator in the city. Albeit on the highway, I do not think it is a good handling car. Speeds in excess of 120 and you are already thinking, "Am I too fast"!!! I don't think that would happen with the Cedia until one hits the 140-150 kph mark.

Plus, the poll results are for all to see. The Cedia is marching ahead. 209 vs 43 for the NHC VTEC. T-BHP loves the Cedia

VMG · 22nd April 2008, 11:13

My vote for the Cedia. It is the great car in all respects.

dhaval · 22nd April 2008, 12:21

OT: Okay i am trying to be diplomatic, biased, neutral or whatever; But given a option to choose from the OHC VTec and the Cedia. Definitely i will choose the OHC Vtec. Now do i have to say more when it comes to OHC Vtec!!?

reignofchaos · 22nd April 2008, 12:33

What does the OHC VTec have over the Cedia? Higher PWTR thats all and nothing else.

bhanusrinivas · 22nd April 2008, 15:10

Cedia for me, the only fear for me is that cedia may get phased out next year or so, as it happened for me with my Baleno, otherwise cedia should be my next car.

parichay · 22nd April 2008, 19:49

I used to own a honda city earlier and now I own a cedia. In terms of everything except rear seat comfort its Cedia all the way.

asr245 · 23rd April 2008, 11:41

Hmm... looks like cars which are a treat to drive (in India) like Palio, Cedia suffer from some really bad A.S.S. That is indeed sad for many customers (including me) who keep away from these cars.

ranjithc · 28th April 2008, 10:14

I own a Cedia from the last 8-10 months.
Drove a City (actually swapped cars with a friends for a drive.)
Cedia RULES!!!!

Actually I have heard from a couple of friends that the Civic is also lagging when it comes to the Cedia in terms of suspensions and pickup.

Honda i feel is selling on it's name. Maybe it was a good deal a few years ago when there were fewer choices. but certainly not anymore.

Regarding A.S.S. i have done 2 services and am having no issues with servicing.
1st was free and second cost me 1200.

diabloo · 28th April 2008, 11:53

There much more, infact a lot more than just a name. How about pondering over why Mitsubishi (being a fellow Japanese) can't sell just on the name?

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Originally Posted by ranjithc

Honda i feel is selling on it's name.

FYI, Civic was launched after Cedia. So any Civic buyer would have had the option to buy Cedia. So it isn't that world was different before Cedia launch.

Quote:

Actually I have heard from a couple of friends that the Civic is also lagging when it comes to the Cedia in terms of suspensions and pickup.

Maybe it was a good deal a few years ago when there were fewer choices. but certainly not anymore.

karanraheja · 28th April 2008, 15:00

Mods i guess its time to close the thread. First of all its quite an old thread. Most of the discussion has been done .

ranjithc · 28th April 2008, 15:23

diabloo
I dont agree with you on the point of how come mitsu is also japanese but not selling that much.
Reason is, you did not understand what i meant to say.
I am not saying that mitsu is better than honda in all aspects.

Just that Cedia is one product where mitsu is way ahead than honda (city and civic).

When i said honda is selling on it's name, i meant it HAD got an amazing car earlier.
But at this date, what does the city offer as a car that cedia does not (except mileage).
* Ride comfort i dont think so.
* Pickup i dont think so.
* average - honda wins here.
* stability on high speeds - cedia wins hands down.

Also, depends on which perspective you look from?
If you wanna look at numbers (sales etc) then city wins being the mass market car.
Cedia is more of a niche product.

What are we comparing here????
A mass manufactured common as hell commuting vehicle (City)
A niche product (cedia) that is made for extreme driving and THUS looks riskier to the COMMON man.

Comeon, it is not even apples to apples comparision

diabloo · 28th April 2008, 15:38

If NHC had OHC, then Cedia had Lancer. Lancer created such goodwill among the people and Cedia failed to cash on that goodwill.
Goodwill might give the initial boost but what carries forward is the car itself. Being the leader for almost 5 years of existence, NHC just logged the highest sales in a month - and this after the news that New City (NC) is coming broke out

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ranjithc

When i said honda is selling on it's name, i meant it HAD got an amazing car earlier.

Cedia is like an art movie which only its director (and few people) understand, while NHC is the commercial movie, which is liked by masses and makes money for the producer.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ranjithc

A mass manufactured common as hell commuting vehicle (City)
A niche product (cedia) that is made for extreme driving and THUS looks riskier to the COMMON man.

Vid6639 · 28th April 2008, 15:55

Mitsu had a good product in the Lancer but they killed it by prolonging it's life. They should have stopped the car when it was at it's peak. Also, the Cedia launched is a generation older.

The city is a car one would buy with their mind. They know it's a practical car which does everything right but nothing great. The Cedia is a car one would buy with their heart.

One of my boss has a Cedia and the other a NHC Vtec. Both of them are happy as the car they have satisfies their requirements. The cedia guy loves to drive and his car has done 17,000 kms in one year. The other commutes only in the city and he wants a no nonsense car which will take him from point A to B. He is least bothered about performance, handling and mileage. Infact he picked up the Vtec because he liked the black and silver interiors more than the GXi fake wood trim.

Now I can't understand why diabloo you have revived every thread today on cedia and Vtec just to show which car is better. When both cars cater to different personalities is it not possible for both cars to be good in their own rights?

View Poll Results: Which would you buy ?
NHC VTec	54	19.08%
Lancer Cedia Select	229	80.92%
Voters: 283. You may not vote on this poll

21st April 2008, 18:46	#226
President BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: FIATFUL Mumbai Posts: 908 Thanked: 189 Times View My Garage	Cedia Rulz! This is the nth time I wish to repeat - CEDIA RULZ!! It is an all in one car. TOTAL VFM. And, I have 11 out of the TEN good points that I need in owning a great car. Last edited by President : 21st April 2008 at 18:47.
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22nd April 2008, 10:26	#228
wanderlustindia BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 608 Thanked: 63 Times View My Garage	My vote for the Cedia. Though I havent driven one yet, I drive a 2001 Lancer. Cedia, being the next gen Lancer in India (and possibly much better than the Lancer in most respects), I can vouch for the driver involvement of this car. It is a delight to be driving one. Handling is superb on all kinds of terrain. I have driven the NHC VTEC and its a smooth operator in the city. Albeit on the highway, I do not think it is a good handling car. Speeds in excess of 120 and you are already thinking, "Am I too fast"!!! I don't think that would happen with the Cedia until one hits the 140-150 kph mark. Plus, the poll results are for all to see. The Cedia is marching ahead. 209 vs 43 for the NHC VTEC. T-BHP loves the Cedia
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22nd April 2008, 11:13	#229
VMG BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 344 Thanked: 33 Times	My vote for the Cedia. It is the great car in all respects.
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22nd April 2008, 12:21	#230
dhaval BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 404 Thanked: Once View My Garage	OT: Okay i am trying to be diplomatic, biased, neutral or whatever; But given a option to choose from the OHC VTec and the Cedia. Definitely i will choose the OHC Vtec. Now do i have to say more when it comes to OHC Vtec!!?
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22nd April 2008, 12:33	#231
reignofchaos Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 2,542 Thanked: 2,450 Times View My Garage	What does the OHC VTec have over the Cedia? Higher PWTR thats all and nothing else.
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22nd April 2008, 15:10	#232
bhanusrinivas BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: hyderabad Posts: 104 Thanked: 0 Times	Cedia for me, the only fear for me is that cedia may get phased out next year or so, as it happened for me with my Baleno, otherwise cedia should be my next car.
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22nd April 2008, 19:49	#233
parichay BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 56 Thanked: 0 Times	Cedia all the way I used to own a honda city earlier and now I own a cedia. In terms of everything except rear seat comfort its Cedia all the way.
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23rd April 2008, 11:41	#234
asr245 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 1,162 Thanked: 389 Times	Hmm... looks like cars which are a treat to drive (in India) like Palio, Cedia suffer from some really bad A.S.S. That is indeed sad for many customers (including me) who keep away from these cars.
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28th April 2008, 10:14	#235
ranjithc BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 69 Thanked: 0 Times	I own a Cedia from the last 8-10 months. Drove a City (actually swapped cars with a friends for a drive.) Cedia RULES!!!! Actually I have heard from a couple of friends that the Civic is also lagging when it comes to the Cedia in terms of suspensions and pickup. Honda i feel is selling on it's name. Maybe it was a good deal a few years ago when there were fewer choices. but certainly not anymore. Regarding A.S.S. i have done 2 services and am having no issues with servicing. 1st was free and second cost me 1200.
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28th April 2008, 15:00	#237
karanraheja Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Coimbatore Posts: 1,961 Thanked: 436 Times	Mods i guess its time to close the thread. First of all its quite an old thread. Most of the discussion has been done .
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28th April 2008, 15:23	#238
ranjithc BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 69 Thanked: 0 Times	diabloo I dont agree with you on the point of how come mitsu is also japanese but not selling that much. Reason is, you did not understand what i meant to say. I am not saying that mitsu is better than honda in all aspects. Just that Cedia is one product where mitsu is way ahead than honda (city and civic). When i said honda is selling on it's name, i meant it HAD got an amazing car earlier. But at this date, what does the city offer as a car that cedia does not (except mileage). * Ride comfort i dont think so. * Pickup i dont think so. * average - honda wins here. * stability on high speeds - cedia wins hands down. Also, depends on which perspective you look from? If you wanna look at numbers (sales etc) then city wins being the mass market car. Cedia is more of a niche product. What are we comparing here???? A mass manufactured common as hell commuting vehicle (City) A niche product (cedia) that is made for extreme driving and THUS looks riskier to the COMMON man. Comeon, it is not even apples to apples comparision
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28th April 2008, 15:55	#240
Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,727 Thanked: 43,460 Times View My Garage	Mitsu had a good product in the Lancer but they killed it by prolonging it's life. They should have stopped the car when it was at it's peak. Also, the Cedia launched is a generation older. The city is a car one would buy with their mind. They know it's a practical car which does everything right but nothing great. The Cedia is a car one would buy with their heart. One of my boss has a Cedia and the other a NHC Vtec. Both of them are happy as the car they have satisfies their requirements. The cedia guy loves to drive and his car has done 17,000 kms in one year. The other commutes only in the city and he wants a no nonsense car which will take him from point A to B. He is least bothered about performance, handling and mileage. Infact he picked up the Vtec because he liked the black and silver interiors more than the GXi fake wood trim. Now I can't understand why diabloo you have revived every thread today on cedia and Vtec just to show which car is better. When both cars cater to different personalities is it not possible for both cars to be good in their own rights?
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