[Minardi]

I agree with SilentEngine here. More specifically, Swift, I20 and Jazz. I think Fabia hardly sells to be seriously taken as a 'competitor'. I thought Jazz would be a good competitor, but it seems Honda is not so much interested in big numbers as they are in positioning it as the 'best' (read most expensive) hatch.

[drpullockaran]

If you pester the dealers in your town you just might get a feel of the Grande Punto on the 13th Of May unfortunately with the 1.3VGT.

I was hoping they would bring out the 1.6VGT but it looks like thats a dream that will take another 8 to 9 months.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/intern...ml#post1236515

[sriramv.iyer]

Originally Posted by aqualeo2040

AFAIK and according to the sales guy, it is the VGT

Originally Posted by ram_hyundai

Launch date would be june 4rth. GP have the VGT-conformed.Dealers meet is happening now in pune now and the dealers are having a go at the car NOW.The models available -active,dynamic,emotion,emotion pack.Tilt stearing is common for all models.The engine is the same as linea.It would definetly be a competition for the likes of i20 and ritz and to a certain extend swift also.Will it be a competetion to Dzire -there are some people who still believes dzire is a hatch pasted with a boot,and in that group there might be people who dont need a boot?

cheers,

ram

I owe you guys a treat! May what you say come true - I am dreaming of possibilities of replacing the tires with the 17'' rims, fat rubber, Pete's box... (drool)

PS:- I was hoping for a Fabia 1.9 Sports version - Looks like it may not come and even if it comes, I am scared to touch a Skoda now! (The orange color Fabia still calls out to me in my dreams ) - Btw, did you know that this color is not available in the top of the line 'Elegance' trim- The top end has least number of options in color, and no exclusive colors

[ram_hyundai]

Originally Posted by SilentEngine

Fantastic!
But I don't quite agree with GP being a competition to Ritz. If we go by GTO's report on Ritz, it is in i10 league, priced below Swift. How can GP be a competition to Ritz then?
If people bought Dzire believing it is a hatch+boot, they would have bought Swift instead if they didn't need boot. So I don't think its a direct competition.

I think GP would compete against Swift, Getz, i20, Fabia and maybe Jazz

I confirm that ritz will be placed above the swift,GTO has never said that its in i10 league for that matter i believe.ritz,i20,getz(soon to be discontinued maybe)GP,Jazz,and to a certain extend,fusion,and skoda fabia would compete against each other.
The models which could be the winners are GP(maybe fiat badge disadvantage may hinder the sales),Ritz(maruti badge advantage),and Jazz(honda badge advantage)
cheers

ram

[SilentEngine]

Originally Posted by ram_hyundai

I confirm that ritz will be placed above the swift,GTO has never said that its in i10 league for that matter i believe.ritz,i20,getz(soon to be discontinued maybe)GP,Jazz,and to a certain extend,fusion,and skoda fabia would compete against each other.
The models which could be the winners are GP(maybe fiat badge disadvantage may hinder the sales),Ritz(maruti badge advantage),and Jazz(honda badge advantage)
cheers

ram

Sorry this is OT here, but IMO Ritz cannot compete with GP. GTO's report has the comparison with i10. So obviously there is some reasoning behind that. I don't understand why Ritz would be positioned above Swift?

[schitre05]

It is a great news for fiat GP lovers! i personally wouldn't mind the 1.3 vgt, considering that GP would be lighter than linea.
Wow everything has been perfect till now.

Now Fiat, please! please! please! dont screw up anything here on!
Cheers

[SumitBahl]

Originally Posted by ram_hyundai

I confirm that ritz will be placed above the swift,GTO has never said that its in i10 league for that matter i believe.ritz,i20,getz(soon to be discontinued maybe)GP,Jazz,and to a certain extend,fusion,and skoda fabia would compete against each other.
The models which could be the winners are GP(maybe fiat badge disadvantage may hinder the sales),Ritz(maruti badge advantage),and Jazz(honda badge advantage)
cheers

ram

Fusion has been discontinued.
I loved that car.

[ms001]

Fusion has not been discontinued it is very much available

[opendro]

Originally Posted by drpullockaran

If you pester the dealers in your town you just might get a feel of the Grande Punto on the 13th Of May unfortunately with the 1.3VGT.

I was hoping they would bring out the 1.6VGT but it looks like thats a dream that will take another 8 to 9 months.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/intern...ml#post1236515

1.6 Multijet for Grande Punto. Good Day Dreaming!! I too had that dreaming before I settled with Linea 1.2! Honestly 90bhp multijet Grande Punto will be quicker and faster than most diesel cars below 10L. And add a superb mileage to that. Nothing to complain about. Or spend another 28K for the tuning box from Petes to boost to a minimum of 102bhp.

[SumitBahl]

Originally Posted by ms001

Fusion has not been discontinued it is very much available

Even if its not, it would be.
“We will eventually phase it out due to poor sales,” Michael Boneham, president and MD of Ford India said.

Ford To Discontinue Fusion
Ford Fusion phase out soon | DWS Auto India
Ford Fusion to be Discontinued soon- Say Bye Bye to Fusion:Indian Automobiles News Forums

Sorry for going OT.

[deepakhon]

If Fiat comes up with 1.6 VGT for Punto, I am a sure shot buyer. This definitely fits my idea of a car; compact, spacious (I know, I know), powerful, desirable. This will tick all the check boxes then. But, I doubt whether Fiat will ever do that in India.

[tinnieboy]

Aaaahhhh !!! Finally some dates to the grandest Grande launch. Good news indeed. I can surely live for a month before contemplating a new car. Any clues if the top end version comes loaded with ABS/EBD, Airbags and Blue&Me. Would love to have it all nicely packaged if possible.

[ankit_chd]

1.6VGT will never be available with Punto for sure . Even 1.3 VGT engine would be good for Punto being lighter than Linea , i wish they change there gear ratios n make it more sporty or atleast a Sports model .

[opendro]

Originally Posted by ankit_chd

1.6VGT will never be available with Punto for sure . Even 1.3 VGT engine would be good for Punto being lighter than Linea , i wish they change there gear ratios n make it more sporty or atleast a Sports model .

I too thought that their gears are too short. But after driving Linea, I'm finding that the gear ratios in Linea are perfect. In fact I would hate to drive Swift DDiS now because I wouldn't be able to shift to second gear before 35 for my kind of driving, i.e. to get a good pickup. In Linea, I can shift to gears so quickly and I can always stay within the turbo band, whereas long gear ratios would make one to shift late and still be at the bottom end of rpm in the next gear.

However, a sixth gear is required for long drives. That is where I also dreamt of a six speed dualogic gear box that they have for Europe. I don't know why they didn't bring that to India. It has both power and fuel efficiency.

If they cannot provide a sixth gear, then they should change the fift gear ratio. That should be perfect.

[deepakhon]

Originally Posted by opendro

However, a sixth gear is required for long drives.

In Europe, 1.3 VGT has 6 gears in the manual configuration.