[uditanshh]

MSIL DZire Brochure

I wonder why they can give connected car tech in the ZXI but not a bigger 9inch infotainment? The similarly priced and specced Tata Punch gets the 10.25inch cluster from Harman, That too on a lower priced Accomplished+ variant. I don't think everyone uses connected car tech but I certainly think that people can do with a better infotainment system. Why does Maruti consider a bigger 9 inch navigation screen a luxury that should be limited to the top end variant only but the connected car tech is not a luxury?

[Nithesh_M]

Good pricing. Probably the most complete product for India considering

1. Small footprint for city
2. Boot attached for occasional highway runs.
3 Safety ratings above usual 5 star GNcap tested cars.
4. Maruti fuss free ownership.
5. Cheaper cost of maintenance.
6. Long term spares availability.
7. Large presence of service network and dealers and last but also the most important part of this car
8. Long term reliability.

What good is a 5 star car without a 5 star history of reliability?

I would still wait for the Amaze though but I know Honda will screw its pricing yet again. It will make the Amaze dead on arrival and Honda will start offering discounts within 6 months like they did with the Elevate.

[tsi_niks1989]

Pricing is decent, not aggressive. With the Amaze coming next month, it could be a better buy for people looking for proper automatic. It would be getting ADAS tech as well and somehow based on the latest sketches looks premium than the DZire.

More than 10L ex showroom for an AMT DZire (no matter how much they have improved it) is a no go for me atleast when the next gen Amaze CVT would be available soon.

[Quicksilver85]

This car will be hard to beat for the upcoming Honda Amaze, unless, Honda manages to pull out a rabbit out of the hat!

Dzire has got the looks, the mileage for the aam junta, the sun-roof for those bragging rights, last but not the least, much needed 5 star safety from a MSIL product! Not to forget the amazing price and after sales service of Maruti Suzuki.

The only foreseeable chink in the armor of Dzire which Honda can exploit is a good automatic in the form of CVT which is lacking with Dzire which offers only an AMT unit. Also, Honda might offer a 4 cylinder petrol while Dzire 3 cylinder unit.

[Emvi]

Maruti have probably got the pricing right this time. It's good that they haven't been buoyed by the GNCAP 5-star rating and priced the Dzire ambitiously.

Now, touching upon the topic of Tata and Mahindra influencing Maruti on crash safety - while the former have focused on safety and have cars with excellent crash test ratings in their lineup, I'm not sure if they have directly pushed Maruti to act in this regard. If you look at sales numbers, you'll see that while the safety ratings may have benefited Mahindra and Tata, it has had no negative impact on Maruti. Maruti's market share has gradually gone down mainly due to the declining sales of small hatchbacks, particularly the Alto. Not so long ago, the Alto used to breach the 20k sales mark, but that’s no longer the case. This can be attributed to the evolving market and waning demand for entry-level cars, more than anything else. In fact, even some of the perceived unsafe cars - like the Wagon R and Ertiga, are consistently topping the sales charts.

More than the influence of Mahindra and Tata, IMO, Maruti have voluntarily decided to up the ante. Interesting times lie ahead.

[GHPBrezzinBy]

Originally Posted by tsi_niks1989

Pricing is decent, not aggressive. With the Amaze coming next month, it could be a better buy for people looking for proper automatic. It would be getting ADAS tech as well and somehow based on the latest sketches looks premium than the DZire.

I understand the points that you have made, however how good has ADAS tech become that it could be used in an Indian Tier3, Tier2 or even a Metro? From what I heard from my friends it is hardly used and as per some members in the forum iirc has caused some minor accidents cause of the tech behind it.

Taking nothing from Amaze as it is an Amazing car, if they dont price it right, then it is DoA. As for as looks the Dzire looks good too and when it comes to the ASS, FE, Maintenance costs and the new GNCAP rating for Dzire means, Amaze will probably see better sales in cities but overall Dzire will rule the roost.

Originally Posted by tsi_niks1989

More than 10L ex showroom for an AMT DZire (no matter how much they have improved it) is a no go for me atleast when the next gen Amaze CVT would be available soon.

AMT of Maruti is not so bad TBH, I had test driven their Fronx, Baleno and Ignis AMT and also the Amaze CVT. IMO I didn't really see too much of a difference between the both within the city test drive which is where both the cars will be driven primarily. I would even say the maintenance of AMT gearbox will be far far cheaper than the CVT. I appreciate the fact that Honda CVT's are reliable but still if after 7 or 8 years the gearboxes develop any problems that AMT is far cheaper to repair than a CVT one which will cost a bomb.

For a common man Dzire holds more sway than Amaze and unless Amaze is priced by atleast 1L cheaper I dont see it beating Dzire.

[LakeWalker]

Originally Posted by volkman10

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I never thought I'd witness this in my lifetime. But I'm glad it happened.

Originally Posted by volkman10

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It looks really good in black!

[abhiijithbhatn]

Originally Posted by GHPBrezzinBy

AMT of Maruti is not so bad TBH, I had test driven their Fronx, Baleno and Ignis AMT and also the Amaze CVT. IMO I didn't really see too much of a difference between the both within the city test drive which is where both the cars will be driven primarily. I would even say the maintenance of AMT gearbox will be far far cheaper than the CVT. I appreciate the fact that Honda CVT's are reliable but still if after 7 or 8 years the gearboxes develop any problems that AMT is far cheaper to repair than a CVT one which will cost a bomb.

I have both AMT and CVT cars, I will take AMT any day for responsiveness. Maruti does fantastic job of AMT tuning. Initially there were jerkiness, but over time, they have rectified it to a point now it can be compared to dual clutch except the switching speeds between gears. Those who drive CVT longterm know the rubberband effect is not suitable for Indian road conditions where you need sudden increase in power to navigate junctions.

[VinodDevil81]

Originally Posted by zeus18

Dzire is the fourth best selling car of all time in India.

What are the other three?

Maruti 800, Maruti Alto and Maruti Swift for sure, I guess

Wrong information.
WagonR already crossed 3 million units in May 2023 itself.
That is 30 Lakhs, and here Maruti themselves have admitted that they have sold only 27 Lakh units of Dzire so far.
That automatically throws Dzire out of the fourth place, even if we assume that your first 3 guesses were correct.

[SuperGirl_Dad]

Originally Posted by audi_dream

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*Introductory prices till the end of the year, just like what every other manufacturer is "saying".

Interesting price. One way to look at the price is to compare the base prices of outgoing and new launch car.
For the base LXI model, the cost of improving a 2* star safe car (outgoing) to 5* safe car (new launch (2024 Maruti-Suzuki Dzire achieves 5-Star rating in the Global NCAP) ) is only ₹23000 . So all the talk of increasing safety will result in exponential increase in cost (Safety last? Maruti Chairman Mr. R.C. Bhargava's controversial statements) is all gas .

[audi_dream]

Originally Posted by SuperGirl_Dad

So all the talk of increasing safety will result in exponential increase in cost (Safety last? Maruti Chairman Mr. R.C. Bhargava's controversial statements) is all gas .

IMO the cost that he was referring to might be largely for smaller vehicles in their portfolio (Alto, WagonR) etc., which don't even get 6 airbags in the top model. I believe with the declining sales of the smallest hatchbacks, it'll be difficult to justify the R&D they put into making them "safer", which might not be true for something like DZire.

But you're right, 23k premium for a 5-star safety is barely 4% hike which definitely contradicts their previous statements.

Although, it is also possible (read highly likely) that they made these statements without spending any effort to actually check what it would take to make their cars safer and once they did, they had one of those "Oh, really!" moments.

[DCEite]

The pricing is neither too aggressive nor too defensive.

Infact, if you go back 6-7 years, the mid level version of Ciaz had similar pricing ex showroom to what the mid and top variants of the DZire cost today, even though the DZire is sub-4m and Ciaz is C segment sedan. Not unsurprising, considering inflation and cost of materials.

Having said that, the best variant in my opinion are the middle spec VXi/ZXi in MT avatar. For me, AMT does not feel apt for a car costing ~ 12 lacs on road. Even though, AMTs have come a long way since inception, in terms of smoothness and driving characteristics.

All said and done, anyone looking for a Compact sedan option, the DZire is the number one contender right now, with 5 Star GNCAP rating, and usual Maruti advantages. However, I would personally not buy it if I were in the market, simply because of the low ground clearance.

[CentreOfGravity]

The top-spec Dzire is now the most expensive sedan in the segment, and that's acceptable, considering the fantastic package that it now is. But not only is it more expensive than its rivals, but also its Nexa sibling, the Baleno. Will the Dzire cannibalise the Baleno's sales with similar features at a higher price point?

Baleno: 6.66 - 9.83 lakhs
Dzire : 6.79 - 10.14 lakhs

Amaze: 7.19 - 9.95 lakhs
Tigor : 5.99 - 9.39 lakhs
Aura : 6.48 - 9.04 lakhs

This is the only compact sedan which is more expensive than its premium hatchback counterpart. The Baleno gets 1 cylinder more and a heads-up display over the Dzire, whereas the latter's extras include a sunroof and a 5-star safety rating. Which car would you choose? Being a sedan lover and the fact that the Dzire now looks mature and understated, my choice would be the Dzire.

Personally, I don't think the sales of other Maruti models will be impacted much as cannibalisation is already prevalent in the MCU (Maruti Cars Universe ). But it will be interesting to see how this pans out! Exciting times ahead for the enthusiasts with the Amaze, Kylaq, Mahindra EVs and more coming up

[SJ1211]

Never imagined i would say this - But Dzire is seriously worth considering!! #waytogoMS

[ItsMeTheCarBoi]

Great pricing !

Features over old Dzire are:

LXI gets front adjustable headrests, 4 power windows, 5 star safety for 23000 more.
VXI gets 7 inch wireless touchscreen, safety for about 23000 more
ZXI gets 7 inch wireless touchscreen, TPMS, safety, reverse camera, LED headlights for 80000 more.
ZXI+ gets wireless 9 inch touchscreen, 360 degree camera, sunroof, safety, TPMS for 80000 more.