[HarKag]

We always say there is no perfect car in any price bracket. But dzire comes very close to being a perfect car. It has everything one want in a car - fuss free ownership, good after sales service, low maintenance cost with easily available spare parts,vast service network,reliable engine, good looking, spacious, good pricing and now 5 star safety rating. It is very hard to find this combination in any other car. Way to go MS!

[ZenMaster]

The presenter clearly said that this is introductory pricing "upto the end of this year". This is probably to ensure that the Amaze doesn't undercut the Dzire on launch.

Those who are saying it only costs 23k for all the strength increase, maybe Maruti is taking a temporary haircut on the initial batches so that the Amaze cannot take its shine away. 4 additional airbags and use of costly high strength steal surely would translate to decent input cost increase.

They have probably just "made a conscious decision" to not increase the "sale price" as much.

After all "First impression, is the best impression" - even if they increase prices later the image won't change as much.

With this pricing, the Dzire has already generated an image among reviewers, average buyers and even enthusiasts on the Team-BHP - of a "decently" priced, well rounded, feature laden product with the most fuel efficient engine available that is very good looking and also 5-star rated.

For typical Maruti customers, all the other points are enough to make this a hit. The 5-star rating is not the cake but just a cherry on the top.

And for those sitting on the fence, the good looks combined with 5-star rating is enough to sway them towards the Dzire.

[Venkatesh]

New grill design gives it more muscular and dynamic appearance.







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[volkman10]

Difference between Japanese and German Engineering costs.

- New Dzire cost Maruti-Suzuki Rs 1,000 Cr. to design, develop and productionise the car.

- It cost VW around 2,000 Cr. to develop the Kylaq despite cost savings with shared aggregates from Kushaq.

- Dzire's dev cost is cheap- Sheet metal all new and that’s very expensive it need make fresh dies and tools.

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- Dzire didn’t invent the compact sedan segment (Indigo CS did) but since its launch 16 years ago, it has sold 2.7 million units which according to Maruti-Suzuki MD Hisashi Takeuchi “has outsold all sedans put together”!

[patwardhan]

Although the 5 star safety rating looks promising, what will go against it is not having Torque Converter gearbox. I will not buy AGS car that is in the 10L + price bracket. I don't know why can't they offer as an option, that will make this one of the top selling AT sedan. Missed opportunity, just boasting safety may not be good enough when buyers are looking for comfort & driving pleasure of an AT

[ron178]

Originally Posted by patwardhan

Although the 5 star safety rating looks promising, what will go against it is not having Torque Converter gearbox. I will not buy AGS car that is in the 10L + price bracket. I don't know why can't they offer as an option, that will make this one of the top selling AT sedan.

Even if they were to skip the AMT (which they won't), the replacement would be a CVT and not a torque converter. This is the case with the Suzuki Swift in Europe, and even Maruti exports Swifts to South Africa and Mexico with a CVT.

[patwardhan]

Even that would be better than having an AGS only option. I own a 2013 Nissan Micra CVT, it still drives well after 11 years.

[fhdowntheline]

Originally Posted by patwardhan

Although the 5 star safety rating looks promising, what will go against it is not having Torque Converter gearbox. I will not buy AGS car that is in the 10L + price bracket. I don't know why can't they offer as an option, that will make this one of the top selling AT sedan. Missed opportunity, just boasting safety may not be good enough when buyers are looking for comfort & driving pleasure of an AT

A year ago I wouldn't be saying this- but the AGS on the Dzire should be perfectly fine when paired with the Z12 series (purely based on personal experience with the 2024 Swift). The purpose of the engine is to provide easy driveability, fuel efficiency and "adequate" performance, and the AGS is well tuned to achieve that, without significant jerks. Of course it is not as smooth as other ATs but its not too bad either. You have a choice between a 5-star safety rated reliable brand offering AGS vs a yet-to-be-established Citroen with a punchy turbo petrol offering torque convertor based AT.

[GHPBrezzinBy]

Originally Posted by ron178

Even if they were to skip the AMT (which they won't), the replacement would be a CVT and not a torque converter. This is the case with the Suzuki Swift in Europe, and even Maruti exports Swifts to South Africa and Mexico with a CVT.

Well, they do have a TC gearbox in Brezza. The last time they had CVT[Baleno] it didn't sit well with common public due to myriad of issues that came with it and they ultimately went back to AMT. Having a TC on a car like Dzire would mean atleast 1 lakh to 1.3 lakhs of additional cost more than the AMT[just my opinion, may not even be accurate value] and that means potential Maruti buyers would not really take a liking to it.

[brneeli]

With today's launch of New DZire, MS redefined value for money. With all creature comforts , reliability, mileage and now safety this can easily attract lot of customers in cities and small towns alike.
Spend 20 to 25 lac, own a New Dzire ZXI+ and a Jimny, we'll have two vehicles that can go anywhere and can run as long as petrol is sold in India.

[ron178]

Originally Posted by GHPBrezzinBy

Well, they do have a TC gearbox in Brezza. The last time they had CVT[Baleno] it didn't sit well with common public due to myriad of issues that came with it and they ultimately went back to AMT. Having a TC on a car like Dzire would mean atleast 1 lakh to 1.3 lakhs of additional cost more than the AMT[just my opinion, may not even be accurate value] and that means potential Maruti buyers would not really take a liking to it.

Indeed consumers won't have enough incentive to pay for a torque converter Swift — that makes it all the more unreasonable for Suzuki to invest in pairing the Z12 with it as globally the only gearboxes the Z12 is paired with are the manual, AMT and CVT. It would be a slightly different story if it was already being sold or exported with a torque converter elsewhere.

I think the kind of person who cares enough about the increased refinement to pay so much for it is not the Swift's target customer anyway.

[audi_dream]

Originally Posted by ZenMaster

Those who are saying it only costs 23k for all the strength increase, maybe Maruti is taking a temporary haircut on the initial batches so that the Amaze cannot take its shine away. 4 additional airbags and use of costly high strength steal surely would translate to decent input cost increase.

After all "First impression, is the best impression" - even if they increase prices later the image won't change as much.

Well you're assuming that the base variants would be readily available. Like most MS cars, the waiting for base variants is extremely high and only after several price hikes, you see the supply increasing (case in point Brezza, GV).
They'll mostly sell the higher variants which have a premium of 80k over the outgoing version.

[Mr.Ogre]

I guess with this launch Maruti proved that they can launch affordable, safe and reliable cars. Kudos to the competition and customers for pushing Maruti to finally add safety into their arsenal.

[BoneCollector]

A full page advertisement in a national daily and they don't bother to put up Global NCAP 5 Star rating. Wake up MSIL!

[athray9]

This segment should probably be called Dzire segment (not taking tigor into consideration due to lower price)

October Dzire segment sales:

Dzire: 12,698 units
Amaze: 2,393 units
Xcent+Aura: 4805 units

Dzire literally sold 56% in this segment and then Maruti comes with this banger of a product which looks good for this segment, has amazing fuel efficiency, segment first features such as sunroof, 360 degree parking camera and finally the unexpected twist of getting 5-star GNCAP rating.

Now the split between the cab + private is unknown, but just assuming this is going to help improve the sales of private buyers, I see this car capitalizing this segment even further.

Recollecting how crowded this segment used to be before the crowd shifted to compact SUV