[UD17]

I liked the new amaze:

- Sleek interiors will liberate more space
- Same reliable work horse IVTEC engine
- CVT will be a great charm, it would sell if they manage to keep CVT price lowest in segment (at least entry variant of CVT)
- City inspired rear design and broad front grill

Hope city facelift will see a change in rear design. This 5th Gen city's front & rear design does not look too classy although Side profile looks quite good.

[ss11011988]

Damn you Honda, you did manage to piss one City owner off, damn that looks strikingly similar to the Gen V Honda City. That being said, the car looks good from the front, however they could have redesigned the tail lamps, instead of a sloppy plug and play job. From the looks of it, the car will rope in some decent numbers and those looking for a reliable workhorse automatic compact sedan can't go wrong with this one. Refined four pot + smooth CVT? Yes please. Spacious interiors? Yes please. I would pick it over the vibey 3 cylinder + AMT combo from the competitors.

Cheers,
NI

[lxskllr]

Looks like it may also pack camera based ADAS?

[volkman10]

Honda Amaze variant and features leaked ahead of launch.

- To be offered in three variants namely, namely, V, VX, and ZX.
- ADAS confirmed, on top variant
- Mechanically, the 1.2-litre NA petrol engine along with a five-speed manual and a CVT
- The top-of-the-line version of the Amaze will get all LED lighting, rear AC vents, wireless charger, wireless Android Auto and Apple CarPlay, lane watch camera, rear parking camera, six airbags, and an ADAS suite.
-The new Amaze will miss out on a 360-degree camera, ventilated seats, and a sunroof.

Additionally, while all the dimensions will remain identical, the width of the new Amaze is said to be increased by 33mm.

the new Amaze to have a closer starting price to the current version. However, the top variant equipped with ADAS may be priced higher than the fully loaded variant of the currently available Amaze.

Link:

[saket77]

Originally Posted by lxskllr

Looks like it may also pack camera based ADAS?

Absolutely- the interior shots show ADAS- Lane Keep Assist and Adaptive Cruise Control buttons on the steering wheel- which has again been carried from the 5th Gen City. The ADAS is camera based as in other Hondas in India.

[CafeRacer16]

The car looks terrific & I am glad that Honda & Maruti have spiced up the sub 4m sedan market.

I really don't understand people's frustration regarding copied back profile from City. Why should a company not use a design that works. City is already a 4.5 year old model which means it would undergo a generation change so its not lazy of Honda to use its design.

I think such striking similarity to City will certainly bring in customers since car ownership is still a status symbol & anyone would like their car to be mistaken for an upper model.

Just ask Virtus or Slavia owners since these are generally mistake for Jetta or Octavia by a novice person (who form the majority & are not petrol heads like Team BHPians)

[ItsMeTheCarBoi]

Looks good from the exterior. Front end looks fabulous! Side is again, great. The rear.... well, I would have preferred the indicators and reverse lights cluster to be pushed in, like in the City. But it would have made the City owners really angry, so they kept it like this, I guess . But one thing I noticed, in the dzire, tail lamps are too short, but in this one, it seems too long. Looks good though .

But the interior? Too boring, if you ask. Nothing wow about it. Dzire and Aura's cabins are much more interesting to look at.

Now we have to see whether peope prefer sunroof and 360 degree camera or ADAS. But seems like a good attempt from Honda, albeit a bit boring.

[xway]

Apologies but the Interiors look downright cheap and poor quality plasticky, it seems to belong to 2 segments below. I could not digest the view of these AC vents at all.

Front is okay, but no classy or wow factor, looks bland and old design from rear too.

New Dzire and even the Aura interiors are far more appealing.
These interiors seriously don't belong to 2024 and no way in a car at this segment.

[RaghuVis]

Originally Posted by for_cars1

Honda's 1.2L NA engine is at the pinnacle of its evolution, creamy high revving and a marvel, and being a 4 cylinder gives it an edge over the Dzire with its 3 cylinder engine which is also much lower in power compared to Amaze.

A notable feature addition from the pics are the rear AC vents in the upcoming Amaze. The outgoing model doesn't have it.

It is a known fact, the Amaze will always be a more premium/ higher quality offering over the Dzire and the same will be reflected in the higher prizing of Amaze.

What is really good about the new Dzire is that it now has 5 star crash rating which makes it a strong alternate purchase option. Good for the market and us customers as we have more compelling choices.

I'm sorry to say, but just because Honda lives in La-La Land does not mean we also live in that fantasy land. I am just bolding some of the statements that you have made.

Dzire last six-month dispatch --> 75307
Monthly average --> 12550

Amaze last six-month dispatch --> 14134
Monthly average --> 2350

Dzire dispatches almost the same amount as what Amaze dispatches in 6 months. Is that what we call a strong alternative and having an edge?

Talk to any recent Amaze customer; they don't see any premium in quality. Honda stopped being a premium offering a long time ago. The only saving grace is the CVT box over the AMT one. The day MSIL decides to put a proper autobox on Dzire, Amaze can retire.

I really wish we folks had better competition.

[microscopic]

The interior panels in the current gen Amaze is of soft touch. If they have maintained the same texture & feel, I guess this should be Ok.

Welcome addition of all 3-point seat belts, adjustable head rests in rear and rear AC (though current-gen Amaze's cabin doesn't need a rear AC vent, the cabin is bone-chilling within a few moments of turning AC on).

The current gen Amaze is a looker. I'm happy that the new-gen's design has turned out to be better.

While Amaze misses out on sun-roof against Dzire, a functional utilitarian feature like ADAS introduced as a segment first feature can definitely help Amaze.

If this gen Amaze scores 5 star safety rating & Honda prices it well (a bit of premium price than that of Dzire is ok), then I feel it is on between Dzire & Amaze. Product cannibalization with City is highly likely. But I don't think Honda would mind that as long as Amaze brings them additional numbers.

Sure that Dzire will be a clear winner; but Amaze would sell in better numbers than it is doing currently.

[SoumenD]

Originally Posted by RaghuVis

Dzire last six-month dispatch --> 75307
Monthly average --> 12550

Amaze last six-month dispatch --> 14134
Monthly average --> 2350

Dzire dispatches almost the same amount as what Amaze dispatches in 6 months. Is that what we call a strong alternative and having an edge?

I get your point but expecting Amaze to do numbers anywhere even remotely close to Dzire is just misplaced expectation. Honda's entire monthly plant capacity is what Dzire alone does in a month And that capacity is shared by City, Elevate for domestic as well as exports(their domestic and export numbers are similar- link ).

But yeah the interiors never looked nor look anywhere close to premium. I remember checking it out in 2019 while picking up Jazz and it looked exactly similar to our other car(the Brio) back then. Understandable as it was a brio+boot. Let's wait for the reviews to come in and maybe we will get a better picture on improvements(if any) in interior quality.

Originally Posted by GS2323

Really, would it be too much of a financial liability for Honda to offer the 1.5 as an option! it would really be something in this sub one tonne car considering it feels really special in the much heavier City, the enthusiast folks would just go berserk on the social media & Honda would have to spend lesser on promotion. They can then use the 1.5L as draw in for people towards the mainstream 1.2, but then, Honda people must be knowing better than me.

Dont bother. They are never going to do it. Jazz and WRV went out begging for that 1.5 mill. We have discussed this possibility to death by now(since almost a decade) but looks like Honda is adamant on not providing the 1.5L iVtec for any sub4m car.

[GS2323]

Design is pretty much evolutionary + there no real X factor...something it really needs to really revive the Amaze brand, specially in light of much stiffer competition.

Really, would it be too much of a financial liability for Honda to offer the 1.5 as an option! it would really be something in this sub one tonne car considering it feels really special in the much heavier City, the enthusiast folks would just go berserk on the social media & Honda would have to spend lesser on promotion. They can then use the 1.5L as draw in for people towards the mainstream 1.2, but then, Honda people must be knowing better than me.

[Elevate2024]

Originally Posted by RaghuVis

Dzire dispatches almost the same amount as what Amaze dispatches in 6 months. Is that what we call a strong alternative and having an edge?

Indian market has always been winner takes all, you can see every segment. Creta far outsells every other car in its segment (3 times of Seltos despite being practically the same car), Innova (Invicto not even 10%), Fortuner and I can go on.

The numbers for Dzire in sub 4m sedan gets a boost due to them being used in taxi fleets while Amaze does not cater to that market. Add to that there are CNG private customers as well which again Honda has left out.
Amaze numbers if compared with private owners with petrol option would not be that off, IMO, in that segment but unfortunately we don't have that data.
Right now if a customer is looking to buy a compact sedan, they only have these 2 options and with Amaze now without a doubt with a better engine (4cyl vs 3 cyl), better power, it has its positives and negatives vis a vis Dzire its upto customers now.

[saket77]

Originally Posted by GS2323

Design is pretty much evolutionary + there no real X factor...something it really needs to really revive the Amaze brand, specially in light of much stiffer competition.

Really, would it be too much of a financial liability for Honda to offer the 1.5 as an option! it would really be something in this sub one tonne car considering it feels really special in the much heavier City, the enthusiast folks would just go berserk on the social media & Honda would have to spend lesser on promotion. They can then use the 1.5L as draw in for people towards the mainstream 1.2, but then, Honda people must be knowing better than me.

No scope for 1.5 in the Amaze. If that happens, that will be the last nail in the coffin for the City. Amaze is now already 60% of City. If interiors or engine are further carried into the Amaze, then City owners will dump Honda, I tell you. But given Honda's desperation to deliver a hit, some enthusiast in the board might have floated the idea of a plonking the existing 1.5L engine in Amaze as they already have it, especially given that Honda has been lazy enough to stick to existing parts bin and pre-drawn design blueprints for designing the new Amaze.

[Chetan_Rao]

Originally Posted by CrAzY dRiVeR

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Honda should chop off the boot and call this a Magnite rival. Looks more crossover from the front than sedan!...

Not that they've got the adventurous streak in them, but a properly done boot design could make for a nice premium hatch/micro-SUV.